What cars should Honda make?
Discussion
it seems there are only ever two cars talked about in here .. the S2000 and NSX (R.I.P.) .. a sad reflection of the rather dismal line-up from Honda.
i doubt any Honda suits are going to read this thread - well because they are so far up their marketing ars3s or busy w8nking over the latest sales figures to care, or even know, what their loyal (or used to be) customers actually want to buy - but on the off-chance that someone from Honda actually still enjoy driving cars and wants to share that passion with his fellow Ph'ers, maybe some ideas from us would be of use to him (or her).
anyway, i'll start the ball rolling ...
a compact executive hatchback:
I want an exec hatchback, something like the 1-series, but with a proper boot that you can erm put stuff into. Radical idea eh? The Civic 'boneshaker' hatchback looks like something from a budget-remake of Back To The Future, and before you mention Accord Estate (which has the right blend of performance, ride quality, loading capacity etc.) - it's too damn big for most day-to-day driving. So a shorter-wheelbase version of the Accord with a nice square backside is what i'm after; in fact just like the original Accord but without the flimsy glass hatch.
something to take on the Boxster:
rather than faffing around with the 2.0 engine (F20C) in the S2000 to get a few extra ponies, and combined with the fact that it's about as good in the 'emissions' criteria as a smoker in a pub, how about designing a new 6-cylinder inline (lesson: I-5s are inherently unbalanced, hence balancer-shafts required) with the i-VTEC gubbins from the existing powerplants. ok, the chassis will need to be enlarged a bit (ala MX-5) and the weight distribution (fore and aft) will need some honing - perhaps BMW can provide some lessons?
i doubt any Honda suits are going to read this thread - well because they are so far up their marketing ars3s or busy w8nking over the latest sales figures to care, or even know, what their loyal (or used to be) customers actually want to buy - but on the off-chance that someone from Honda actually still enjoy driving cars and wants to share that passion with his fellow Ph'ers, maybe some ideas from us would be of use to him (or her).
anyway, i'll start the ball rolling ...
a compact executive hatchback:
I want an exec hatchback, something like the 1-series, but with a proper boot that you can erm put stuff into. Radical idea eh? The Civic 'boneshaker' hatchback looks like something from a budget-remake of Back To The Future, and before you mention Accord Estate (which has the right blend of performance, ride quality, loading capacity etc.) - it's too damn big for most day-to-day driving. So a shorter-wheelbase version of the Accord with a nice square backside is what i'm after; in fact just like the original Accord but without the flimsy glass hatch.
something to take on the Boxster:
rather than faffing around with the 2.0 engine (F20C) in the S2000 to get a few extra ponies, and combined with the fact that it's about as good in the 'emissions' criteria as a smoker in a pub, how about designing a new 6-cylinder inline (lesson: I-5s are inherently unbalanced, hence balancer-shafts required) with the i-VTEC gubbins from the existing powerplants. ok, the chassis will need to be enlarged a bit (ala MX-5) and the weight distribution (fore and aft) will need some honing - perhaps BMW can provide some lessons?
pedants - feel free to correct my nasty grammar
Edited by fido on Wednesday 25th July 19:52
Cathar said:
What should Honda make?
A S2000 "CSL" with 150kg less and an engine on individual throttle bodis that revs to 10.5k, of course.
As said before .. emissions, costs (and warranties) involved in producing such an engine .. plus everyone else is going the 'turbo' route. Whereas a straight-six would in theory be capable of 360bhp, larger but without the need for balancer shafts.A S2000 "CSL" with 150kg less and an engine on individual throttle bodis that revs to 10.5k, of course.
Edited by fido on Wednesday 8th August 13:14
Swoxy said:
A replacement for the CRX.
Small, sporty, stylish and light.
Small, sporty, stylish and light.
peterperkins said:
Something to replace the Honda Insight, with even better economy and quirky styling! 
they both have similar looking rear-ends and side-profile - i reckon a successor to both cars would be a seller; 1) a frugal version with IMA hybrid engine 2) a hot version with extra-stiff chassis, suspension, engine from the JDM Civic Type-R driving the rear-wheels.
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