Noise Limits on Track Days...

Noise Limits on Track Days...

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mattdaniels

7,353 posts

284 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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Definitely not urban myth. The static test in the paddock is for individual cars. The drive-by's which the council monitor apparently allow them to take action if the "average" gets too high. I've been on a trackday there before now where we've stopped for an extended lunch at 11:30am just to get this "average" back down again.

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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Tested my exhuast yesterday.

119db at 1.0m
121db at 0.5m

Oh bugger .....

ShinyAndy

217 posts

264 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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Blimey, that is incredibly loud !

What car is it ?

Andy
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james

1,362 posts

286 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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It isn't a car. It's a Phantom Jet.

Must be

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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It's a Westie 1600 X flow with twin 45DCOE's and an exhaust that I swear must have absolutely no packing in it at all !

Andy : best of all, that was tested using one of your test meters (on loan) ! Sorry !

Loud ?

Pete Cros

285 posts

281 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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Just a comment,
Correct distance from exhaust outlet, angle of 45, three quarter revs, etc etc. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete Cros

285 posts

281 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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quote:

It isn't a car. It's a Phantom Jet.

Must be



Its certainly louder than the footprint of an F111 at takeoff height of 500ft, WITHOUT afterburners on.

ShinyAndy

217 posts

264 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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As Pete has just said I would recheck your readings as that is unfeasably loud

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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I think I am going to have to retest the car, but I *think* I did everything correctly.

It was at 45 degrees from the exhaust, and with two tests (one at 1m and one at 0.5m). The engine has a redline of 6800 rpm, but the tacho has a moveable redline, so for the purposes of scrutineering that might get adjusted down to a visible 6000 So both my tests were at 4500 rpm.

The only thing I thought of afterwards was that I'd left the engine cover off, but that's only a very flimsy bit of fibreglass, so I can't see that it made a huge huge difference ... (or .... ?)

Will retest and report

adamb

418 posts

286 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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It sounds LOUD but feasible to me. Goodwood twice tested me a 125.

Cerb 4.5, sports pipes with no packing (read echo chambers)

johno

8,477 posts

284 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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The old straight pipes on my S were read at 113 dba at Castle Coombe at 1m before the guy gave up !!

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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Okay, so here's the exhaust retest info :

Last night, middle of a field in middle of nowhere.
Meter set at weighting 'A', held at 1m from exhaust tip, at 45 degrees, level with exhaust (i.e. about 8" from floor)

Run One : gradually increase revs gently to 4500 rpm : 108.5 db
Run Two : gradually increase revs gently to 4500 rpm : 107 db
Run Three : foot slips, accidentally rev hard from 3500 to 4500 rpm : 118.6 db !!!

So, unless the meter is incorrect, if I increase revs gently then it's "quiet" ish, but if I accelerate hard (as per going round a track, for example) then nearly 120 db is easily achievable !

Ulp !

adamb

418 posts

286 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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Interesting. When I was struggling to get through a noise test I was advised by the tester to bring the revs up as slowly as possible.

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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Hmm ... backs up my findings above, i.e. the difference between bringing the revs to 4500 slowly and quickly was 10db.

Maybe a hint for others there ?

ShinyAndy

217 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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It still sounds like you are testing it incorrectly. I'm trying to find a diagram of how to test it correctly for you

ultimaandy

1,225 posts

266 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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My car tested at 108db @5200rpm at Goodwood yesterday, some repacked silencers are in order.

Anyone know who could make some repackable ones that will lose this kind of noice and how much!

I don't really want to use some of those stick out the back things unless I have no choice.

Its an Ultima by the way.

getcarter

29,437 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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BTB Exhausts got mine down to 101 (it's an R500)... website: >> www.racecar.co.uk/btb/

nevpugh308

4,398 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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It still sounds like you are testing it incorrectly. I'm trying to find a diagram of how to test it correctly for you



Okay ... quite happy to be corrected if so ... but from my descrption above, what could I be possibly doing to affect it radically ?

When cars are tested at SVA the probe is placed at 1m from the exhaust, level with the exhaust tip (same height from floor) and at a 45 degree angle. That's what I did.

getcarter - thanks for the URL ... how much did the box cost ?

adamb

418 posts

286 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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When I've had mine measured its been 45 degrees to the exhaust in both the horizontal and vertical planes. Obviously on the outside edge of the car rather than toward the middle (between the pipes)

ShinyAndy

217 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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All the tests that I've ever seen done have always had the meter at 45 degrees in all angles. So the tester is not level with the exhaust but 1m (or 0.5m) away 45 degrees from the exhaust outlet. Imagine if you taped a metre long stick to the end of the noise tester then touched it at the exhaust outlet and held it at 45 degrees from the horizontal and vertical (god this is so hard to describe.. and I can't find a picture anywhere !)

Andy
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