Drive Limits - What to expect?
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Haven’t done a 4 car day but I did do a larger group 2 years go. As others have said being able to find the limits (and exceed them) of your vehicle with relatively low risk was well worth it imo. Had a few spins but also managed to know how to manage a slide and feel more through the wheel.
My session is this Thursday, and sod's law dictates that it's going to be a rainy/changeable day. Perhaps not the end of the world, but I'd have really liked a good run at a dry day.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
C70R said:
My session is this Thursday, and sod's law dictates that it's going to be a rainy/changeable day. Perhaps not the end of the world, but I'd have really liked a good run at a dry day.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
No need for a helmetOnly one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
gareth h said:
C70R said:
My session is this Thursday, and sod's law dictates that it's going to be a rainy/changeable day. Perhaps not the end of the world, but I'd have really liked a good run at a dry day.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
No need for a helmetOnly one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
C70R said:
My session is this Thursday, and sod's law dictates that it's going to be a rainy/changeable day. Perhaps not the end of the world, but I'd have really liked a good run at a dry day.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
As said by others, no helmet or other equipment was required. When I did it the conditions were overcast and there was some rain for part of the day. I don’t think the weather should put you off, doing handling drills in wet weather adds some extra challenge! Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
AlphaDelta said:
C70R said:
My session is this Thursday, and sod's law dictates that it's going to be a rainy/changeable day. Perhaps not the end of the world, but I'd have really liked a good run at a dry day.
Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
As said by others, no helmet or other equipment was required. When I did it the conditions were overcast and there was some rain for part of the day. I don’t think the weather should put you off, doing handling drills in wet weather adds some extra challenge! Only one small detail, but I haven't seen if there's any requirement for helmets. There's nothing mentioned in any of the booking docs, and before I chase the organiser I wondered what others did. Personally, I'll probably take an open-face helmet (I'm in a convertible) if there are no hard-and-fast rules, but I was wondering what the protocol was.
I have a trackday at Cadwell next week, so I'd rather like to be able to apply whatever I learn there. Perhaps I'm overthinking it.
Well that was an absolutely brilliant day out.
An entire day spent learning how to use each of the steering, brakes and throttle to control a car cornering near the limit. The goal is to push the car to failure in very safe surroundings, then learn how to combine all three inputs to keep it shiny side up.
Mark the instructor is a really lovely chap and a great tutor, and a bloody impressive driver to boot.
I reckon I probably learned more about car control yesterday than in every trackday I've done combined. Given that a 4-car day costs about the same as trackday, I really can't recommend it enough.
For everyone here asking what modifications you should do to go faster on track, I'd say this course should be at the top of your list.
An entire day spent learning how to use each of the steering, brakes and throttle to control a car cornering near the limit. The goal is to push the car to failure in very safe surroundings, then learn how to combine all three inputs to keep it shiny side up.
Mark the instructor is a really lovely chap and a great tutor, and a bloody impressive driver to boot.
I reckon I probably learned more about car control yesterday than in every trackday I've done combined. Given that a 4-car day costs about the same as trackday, I really can't recommend it enough.
For everyone here asking what modifications you should do to go faster on track, I'd say this course should be at the top of your list.
DocJock said:
Thoroughly agree!
The one thing I remember most was being told to brake hard when turning in to 'the corner'. It seemed so counter-intuitive and I was convinced it would provoke a spin. Shows what I knew..
Probably the best instruction course I've attended.
Couldn't agree more. I was bracing myself for a spin, and the front just washed out. The session after that, where we modulated the braking to balance the car, was probably the most useful thing I've learned since I passed my test.The one thing I remember most was being told to brake hard when turning in to 'the corner'. It seemed so counter-intuitive and I was convinced it would provoke a spin. Shows what I knew..
Probably the best instruction course I've attended.
DocJock said:
One thing I recall about one of those days at North Weald is that it was hard on the tyres.
Two of our group of four, in heavier cars, were well below road legal by the end of the day.
Coming back to this, I can only assume they were on very marginal tyres at the start of the day.Two of our group of four, in heavier cars, were well below road legal by the end of the day.
I've got a bit of feathering to the outside tread blocks on my front right, but that's about it from an entire day spent throwing the car into left-hand turns.
funbobby said:
How much time in your car did you actually get to spend with mark?
It's split evenly with the other three drivers if you are on a four person day, if it's the twenty car day then he will jump in at your request...Funny that nobody has mentioned Mark's day job is one of the instructors at Porsche Silverstone, Andy subbed him in when he back started playing up and Mark set up Drive Limits when Andy wound down Car Limits.
Be aware a large chunk of North Weald has been ear-marked for a large residential development, so it's likely there is only eighteen months until they will no longer exist. Get in there while you can, Mark is a lovely bloke and an excellent teacher.
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