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Jimslips

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156 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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VB said:
Right so from what you're saying, going in as a Roustie is the wrong way to do it if I want to choose my trade. I'll speak to the agencies and see what the crack is with regards to getting into Logs.



Thanks again.
Drilling contractor have a 'stores' person which is more entry focused which is quite difffent for logistics from operator. They will be in charge of many of the consumables, ie PPE whereas Operator logistics will be focal point for all goods in and out of the rig.
Logistics position tends to be operator instead of drilling cotnractor. Very decently paid offshore.

Edited by Jimslips on Monday 31st October 07:24

VB

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9,074 posts

217 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Jimslips said:
VB said:
Right so from what you're saying, going in as a Roustie is the wrong way to do it if I want to choose my trade. I'll speak to the agencies and see what the crack is with regards to getting into Logs.



Thanks again.
Logistics position tends to be operator instead of drilling cotnractor. Very decently paid offshore.
I've got no idea what this means!

What's the difference? Operator- employed by the company, Contractor- employed by an agency?



Jimslips

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Monday 31st October 2011
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VB said:
I've got no idea what this means!

What's the difference? Operator- employed by the company, Contractor- employed by an agency?
Operator = Shell, BP, Conoccophillips, Chevron

DC = Transocean, KCA, Diamond

In detail: http://www.diamondoffshore.com/ourCompany/ourcompa...

Operator pays Transocean a 'rate' for their drilling servcies, usually includes rig hire.

VB

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Monday 31st October 2011
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Just caught your edit, thanks. Operator Logs seems to be more inline with what I was doing in the RAF.

VB

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Monday 31st October 2011
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So I'd have to apply for a position via an Operator.



Jimslips

6,419 posts

156 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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VB said:
So I'd have to apply for a position via an Operator.
Yeah, many of these jobs are through agencies too. See if you can get some interviews and it might help to figure out what you want.

richysafc

10 posts

152 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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This has been a really useful thread for me, i have learned alot. I took your advice and looked at waste management and found a company that has an opening for an "offshore operative", I checked over the job description and defiantly sounds like something i could do.

Going to ask what is probably a stupid question but what exactly is well services (clearly its to do with the well but what jobs are there on this, as far as i am aware wireline operator is well services? Correct me if i am wrong on the please)

Another problem i am finding is that no one seems prepared to take on greenhands at the minute, every company is looking for people with experience but how can you gain experience if no one will give me a chance. Are there certain times of the year when companies take on greenhands or what I have phoned a few agencies and they have all said that most greenhands positions are advertised on the companies websites as it is cheaper for them to do it that way, so i spend most nights trailing through websites to find no one is taking on new comers. Are there any recruitment agencies that specialise in greenhand recruitment?

Its not that I have got my heart set on becoming and assistant driller however I have done alot of research into the drilling side and it just seems something I would fancy doing and think I would enjoy. I am sure that it isn't a glamorous job but something is just drawing me to that career however like I said earlier I will consider most jobs.

Jimslips

6,419 posts

156 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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richysafc said:
This has been a really useful thread for me, i have learned alot. I took your advice and looked at waste management and found a company that has an opening for an "offshore operative", I checked over the job description and defiantly sounds like something i could do.

Going to ask what is probably a stupid question but what exactly is well services (clearly its to do with the well but what jobs are there on this, as far as i am aware wireline operator is well services? Correct me if i am wrong on the please)

Another problem i am finding is that no one seems prepared to take on greenhands at the minute, every company is looking for people with experience but how can you gain experience if no one will give me a chance. Are there certain times of the year when companies take on greenhands or what I have phoned a few agencies and they have all said that most greenhands positions are advertised on the companies websites as it is cheaper for them to do it that way, so i spend most nights trailing through websites to find no one is taking on new comers. Are there any recruitment agencies that specialise in greenhand recruitment?

Its not that I have got my heart set on becoming and assistant driller however I have done alot of research into the drilling side and it just seems something I would fancy doing and think I would enjoy. I am sure that it isn't a glamorous job but something is just drawing me to that career however like I said earlier I will consider most jobs.
Yeah, wireline is wellservices.
http://www.slb.com/services.aspx - breaks it down into sectors for you.
Sorry I am unaware of specific agencies for this. It might be an option to get experience with a companies equipment in a yard (service provider) then move to offshore, then move to drill crew if that is what you really want. Much easier to find a job once you are in one and all that. Similar to waste management / environmental solutions (skip and ship, CRI) there are other entry jobs with trainee jobs such as cementers with Halliburton / Schlumberger and entry tool hand jobs with likes of Weatherford. If you find you like these companies routes, you can do very well. So many 'specialist' jobs that it is very very difficult to pick one if you have never been on a rig or know anything about the industry. Never stop learning.

frank hovis

466 posts

266 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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One of the main issues with getting to well services is that most companies expect you to be within 40/50 miles of aberdeen due to the nature of ad hoc jobs for trainees

Do you guys know about the Friday jobs supplement from the Press and Journal - that's where most companies looking for trainees advertise

As Jim says apply for anything that goes - i started as the van driver and within 6 months was offshore as a wireline helper
my cousin started as a storeman with Weatherford and 4 years on is on a rotation in Oz as a subsea tree hand so it does happen

Jimslips

6,419 posts

156 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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frank hovis said:
my cousin started as a storeman with Weatherford and 4 years on is on a rotation in Oz as a subsea tree hand so it does happen
Yep, all the time. Lots of people in very good jobs if you have a bit of a brain, bit of commitment and willing to put in the hours. Know lots of people started as trainee this, trainee that now in all manner of management / consultancy businesses. Decent people tend to get recognized and quite often get quite far.

VB

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217 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Jimslips said:
frank hovis said:
my cousin started as a storeman with Weatherford and 4 years on is on a rotation in Oz as a subsea tree hand so it does happen
Yep, all the time. Lots of people in very good jobs if you have a bit of a brain, bit of commitment and willing to put in the hours. Know lots of people started as trainee this, trainee that now in all manner of management / consultancy businesses. Decent people tend to get recognized and quite often get quite far.
This is a massive draw for me. Thanks for all your input Jim (and everyone elsesmile ) I'll be doing some ringing around tomorrow.

tighnamara

2,195 posts

155 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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VB said:
Right so from what you're saying, going in as a Roustie is the wrong way to do it if I want to choose my trade. I'll speak to the agencies and see what the crack is with regards to getting into Logs.



Thanks again.
Most have given you good advice but deffinetly don't think starting as a roustabout is the wrong way.
Any start offshore is a good way, from there you will gain a better understanding what each job entails and the possible career progression. This will allow you to progress in the route chosen or move down another path.
Once you have got that start you will the have other avenues open up a lot easier than you will trying to be choosy for your first position.
Take the first job and move on from there.
Good Luck

richysafc

10 posts

152 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Thanks for all the advice guys, been a big help and has defiantly given me new avenues to explore, been checking it out all night, re-searching well services jobs etc and going to keep an eye out on the press and journal website every Friday for new openings.

Also booking up for my banksman/slinger course in December which should hopefully improve my chances that little bit more.