Interview feedback
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I wouldnt contact the companies directly either TBH
Perhaps apply to more companies direct if possible?
I had a mixture of BS'ing and good feedback when I used agencies
On one placement I did for 2 months the company gave me some negative feedback via the agency (which i disagreed with) and on another ocassion the 2 interviewers were right twunts and slagged me off to the agency, but I gave as good as i got, lol
but yea, they will string you along to keep you on the books, so be wary.
but to be fair, they do have access to a LOT of jobs that are not advertised elsewhere.
Perhaps apply to more companies direct if possible?
I had a mixture of BS'ing and good feedback when I used agencies
On one placement I did for 2 months the company gave me some negative feedback via the agency (which i disagreed with) and on another ocassion the 2 interviewers were right twunts and slagged me off to the agency, but I gave as good as i got, lol
but yea, they will string you along to keep you on the books, so be wary.
but to be fair, they do have access to a LOT of jobs that are not advertised elsewhere.
I dunno it ACTUALLY makes a difference, at work we always joke about fit females coming in for interviews
obviously the manager may think it when deciding (not me BTW) but i doubt any of our managers are swayed by things like that.
that said, i imagine it happens. after all in many places it oculd just be down to the personal preference of one person. (i work in the public sector and so EVERYTHING is documented, i doubt being fit would go down too well on the selection form!)
obviously the manager may think it when deciding (not me BTW) but i doubt any of our managers are swayed by things like that.
that said, i imagine it happens. after all in many places it oculd just be down to the personal preference of one person. (i work in the public sector and so EVERYTHING is documented, i doubt being fit would go down too well on the selection form!)
lol can I send a picture and see what you think?
Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
ETA: I wasn't implying I was fit just thinking about other implications of interviews.
Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
ETA: I wasn't implying I was fit just thinking about other implications of interviews.
Edited by Kit80 on Wednesday 24th February 10:02
69 coupe said:
Kit80 said:
69 coupe said:
Age????
29 thought that was a good age, old enough to know better and yu enough not to care..I mean retire?Sex! not a problem unless your applying for a job laying kerbstones/pavements.
Just ste luck at the moment.
Kit80 said:
lol can I send a picture and see what you think?
Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
[Sensible off]Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
[/sensible on]
essayer said:
I bet a significant factor is that you are 29, female and employers are st-scared you'll start work and go on maternity leave within the next few years.
Are they big companies, or smaller ones?
Mix of the both tbh. And I can see why you think this but I am recently divorced already with a child and with NO interest at all of having any more and I am hoping I give off this vibe quite clearly Are they big companies, or smaller ones?
A potential issue that no one is ever going to admit to is that you are a 29 year old female, just the right age to be looking to start a family. No employer wants to take someone on, invest in them, and then lose them for a year due to maternity. Its crap, but true. I have interviewed with previous managers who express this exact opinion. I over-ride it as it isn't fair on the candidate to think like that, but a lot of people share the opinion (personnel bods included).
Another point is that sometimes, a strong candidate can come across as a bit intimidating or aggressive at interview. The interviewer gets the impression that they will be trying to change systems as soon as they start, or won't get on with an existing team member.
Not saying that these apply to you, just what I have found over many years of interviewing.
Another point is that sometimes, a strong candidate can come across as a bit intimidating or aggressive at interview. The interviewer gets the impression that they will be trying to change systems as soon as they start, or won't get on with an existing team member.
Not saying that these apply to you, just what I have found over many years of interviewing.
I think I will make it clear in a subtle way that that is not going to happen re the family thing.
And I don't think I am over confident but I guess there could be a danger of me being over enthusiastic. I have had some unusual expereince of respnsiblity and I want to sell myself but I guess that could intimidate some people. A little while ago I did get the feedback twice that I would be bored in the role and probably leave, which to be fair was probably true.
Oh well interview on Thursday
Might try a new approach.
And I don't think I am over confident but I guess there could be a danger of me being over enthusiastic. I have had some unusual expereince of respnsiblity and I want to sell myself but I guess that could intimidate some people. A little while ago I did get the feedback twice that I would be bored in the role and probably leave, which to be fair was probably true.
Oh well interview on Thursday
Might try a new approach.
This is a bit of a risk and you have to be confident, quick thinking or very good at bullstting:
At the interview, ask them what concerns they would have about employing you, based on what they know about you so far. If they come back and say we're worried about A, don't think you would be able to do B or lack demonstrable experience in C, turn it around and let them know exactly why A, B or C wouldn't be a problem and how you will overcome their concerns/reservations.
At the interview, ask them what concerns they would have about employing you, based on what they know about you so far. If they come back and say we're worried about A, don't think you would be able to do B or lack demonstrable experience in C, turn it around and let them know exactly why A, B or C wouldn't be a problem and how you will overcome their concerns/reservations.
DavesFlaps said:
This is a bit of a risk and you have to be confident, quick thinking or very good at bullstting:
At the interview, ask them what concerns they would have about employing you, based on what they know about you so far. If they come back and say we're worried about A, don't think you would be able to do B or lack demonstrable experience in C, turn it around and let them know exactly why A, B or C wouldn't be a problem and how you will overcome their concerns/reservations.
Now that sounds quite interesting At the interview, ask them what concerns they would have about employing you, based on what they know about you so far. If they come back and say we're worried about A, don't think you would be able to do B or lack demonstrable experience in C, turn it around and let them know exactly why A, B or C wouldn't be a problem and how you will overcome their concerns/reservations.
Kit80 said:
I don't rely on agencies by any means but they have provided a good proportion of the interviews.
Seriously the female thing is bothering me, am willing to get a sex change for a decent job?
I don't think the female thing has much relevance, although if you come across too know-it-all to an (unprofessional) senior female in an interview they won't like you. I've experienced that before. Show respect for the senior female and you'll win them over, whereas the men will warm to you anyway, or atleast that's my experience.Seriously the female thing is bothering me, am willing to get a sex change for a decent job?
Are you going for a senior position? Managing people?
I've been interviewing for the last month and got offered a job last week. I also got my current job a year ago when the recession was in full swing, and I'm in Marketing for goodness sake, and that's one of the first things people cut back on, so I have no doubt that you can get a job if you have faith in yourself, regardless of how bad things are.
I wouldn't suggest approaching the company directly if you've been going through an agency as you may be in some sort of breach of contract?
As for interviews, I've been so bold as to ask, when they come to ask me if I have any questions at the end, "what would your initial concerns be about having me as a candidate? I'd like to address them" Always floors them and shows that you're keen to prove your worth.
you can do yourself a massive favour by ditching the agencies who you don't get a good vibe from. I registered with over a dozen at the beginning of jan. and now deal with just3 on a regular basis.
to me, recruitment agents seem akin to mobile phone salesmen - full of st. these ones I've kept are a bit different and are the only ones I've met face to face (they wanted to interview me prior to sending my cv out), phone me regularly, only send me for roles I'm interested in and give good feedback. can't be arsed with those who promise everything then don't deliver.
how you finding the jam roll? fking joke if you ask me. I'm also struggling remembering what day it is, I've had a 2 mth long weekend!
to me, recruitment agents seem akin to mobile phone salesmen - full of st. these ones I've kept are a bit different and are the only ones I've met face to face (they wanted to interview me prior to sending my cv out), phone me regularly, only send me for roles I'm interested in and give good feedback. can't be arsed with those who promise everything then don't deliver.
how you finding the jam roll? fking joke if you ask me. I'm also struggling remembering what day it is, I've had a 2 mth long weekend!
anonymous said:
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I am or was in my last role a Marketing Manager YOU GOT MY JOB Yes been discussing with my friend and I really like this asking that question at the end am going to do it tommorrow, and you have worded it perfectly! Thanks.
And no I didn't think it was wise to contact them direct could give the agnecy the humph, and on that note the agency did ring me back to say that she had contacted them and that the HR Department just had notes that the other candidate was stronger but apparently she was going to do some further investigating to see if she could be more specific. As I said to them I am not disputing the decision but would like to know where I need to be stronger.
And well I know a lot of people are shunning agencies but if there is a job I want to apply for and I have to go through an agency I will. And I know one job I got put forward for was never even advertised, they used people registered with them to be put forward and I can't miss a potential opportunity like that. Having said that being registered with about 10..only 2 have been of any use.
Decided today to take a slightly different approach, always facied working for the youth offending team after I did some training with them, so I have applied for a volunteer position with them to gain experience. If I get turned down for a volunteer role think I will shoot myself
Rollcage said:
Kit80 said:
lol can I send a picture and see what you think?
Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
[Sensible off]Looking back I have been interviewed by 80% women. I dress conservatally, and I am fairly well endowed but I hide these as a friend suggested the opposite.
Surely a fit female could be a negative point for female interviews so it could work both ways?
[/sensible on]
I would ask the interviewer if he has any concerns or reservations, at the end of the interview. They are fresh in his mind, and not sugar coated through a recuiter.
Secondly, as has been mentioned, the fact that you are a woman of child bearing age definitely can make a difference, and one that you will not hear about directly.
Sounds like you are taking the right track on this, by bringing it up yourself, perhaps try beefing that up a bit. The fact is though, rightly or wrongly, no one will ever quite believe that a 29 year old woman does not want kids and will not in the next 2-3 years.
Personally I would be more convinced by someone who said for example, that yes they do want kids, but they first want to achieve XYZ, buy a house etc and they don't see this happening for at least another 3 years, where upon you will give up work until the kids are at school.
Don't go inventing whole stories that aren't true, but just put yourself in that position and think, what would convince me that this woman isn't going to want a year off work 3 months after I hire her.
Alternatively, you can of course make up for this by subtly hinting that you would be the office bike, and encouraging a sweepstake on who will sleep with you first.
Secondly, as has been mentioned, the fact that you are a woman of child bearing age definitely can make a difference, and one that you will not hear about directly.
Sounds like you are taking the right track on this, by bringing it up yourself, perhaps try beefing that up a bit. The fact is though, rightly or wrongly, no one will ever quite believe that a 29 year old woman does not want kids and will not in the next 2-3 years.
Personally I would be more convinced by someone who said for example, that yes they do want kids, but they first want to achieve XYZ, buy a house etc and they don't see this happening for at least another 3 years, where upon you will give up work until the kids are at school.
Don't go inventing whole stories that aren't true, but just put yourself in that position and think, what would convince me that this woman isn't going to want a year off work 3 months after I hire her.
Alternatively, you can of course make up for this by subtly hinting that you would be the office bike, and encouraging a sweepstake on who will sleep with you first.
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