Surprising salaries.

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omgus

7,305 posts

177 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Anthony Micallef said:
I work in IT Im 37 and dont even make £25k a year. Its so depressing as Im fed up of being on such a pitiful wage at my age.
Ant, that is shocking, one of my ex lodgers is in IT and was on £22k/annum before he went travelling, he has just come back from a 5 month stint in Thailand and is contracting for the same company doing the same job at double the price.


For the record, I was a Chef the money was ok but the hours were long, I decided I didn't want to cook for customers anymore and some how found myself working as a Security Guard, for the last 5 years I have comfortably exceeded £30k every year. I now find myself moving moving into the whole Site/Facilities Managment side and my pay has gone down slightly.

ETA There are a fair few guards i've known who would only work nights and go to uni during the day, 4 on 4 off, some nights they are knackered because they have been at lectures, lots of time to do essays at night and in 3 years they all had degrees, no debt and a job that payed more than most of their class mates.

Edited by omgus on Thursday 25th February 17:42

Anthony Micallef

1,122 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Cheeky! But you may have something there tongue out

I work for a large IT Services company in the North West which is where I think my problem is. I need to get to a smaller company doing something more technical.

Escort2dr

3,620 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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musclecarmad said:
The one area that you do make good money is sales. Eg medical salesmen i know were earning around £60k per year, no degree etc, working from home and you have a company car which is prob a £7k per year benefit.

dentists earn a lot if they are switched on HOWEVER i don't think i'd want to put my head in someones mouth every day - i simply would get depressed.
Med reps for a decent pharma company are usually degree educated.

Dentists - very difficult to get into that career.

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Anthony Micallef said:
Cheeky! But you may have something there tongue out

I work for a large IT Services company in the North West which is where I think my problem is. I need to get to a smaller company doing something more technical.
It's not the size of the company holding you back - it's the fact that they're a bunch of tight-arsed Northern monkeys! (said with genuine affection, of course) Seriously I've worked for a number of firms and the Northerners have a *completely* different perception of what constitutes a good wage.

Edited by theboss on Thursday 25th February 19:55

Anthony Micallef

1,122 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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The company isnt Northern though they are American.

Kudos

2,672 posts

176 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Anthony Micallef said:
The company isnt Northern though they are American.
Not an excuse. I did a contract in the NW for a large company c2003 for £400/day...I still see plenty advertised way above that

Kit80

4,764 posts

189 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Chefs always surprised me. My ex worked for the best hotel as head chef and just got over 20k and yet worked 13 hours a day.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Anyone who works for a council, they get paid for doing nothing.

Whatever they get paid and whatever their job title is they get paid far too much.

Anthony Micallef

1,122 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Kudos said:
Anthony Micallef said:
The company isnt Northern though they are American.
Not an excuse. I did a contract in the NW for a large company c2003 for £400/day...I still see plenty advertised way above that
I wasnt using it as an excuse I was trying to point out that my wage had nothing to do with me working for a Northern company as they are American. The wages arent set by Northeners anyway. Perhaps you see £400/day contracts in your area but certianly not in mine.

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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I had a friend who did the Aldi store manager job for about 2 months before he decided to pack it in. 50 hours a week is a bit on the low side.

He said it was easily the worst job he had ever done, and wouldn't do it for double that salary.

I never really found out the gruesome details, and since no one here has, I can only assume that it involves some sort of bum sex initiation ceremony.

W124Bob

1,753 posts

177 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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JRM said:
Tube driver - effing rediculous for the easiest and most protexted job in the world. I think it's £40k or something
If you think it's that easy why not have ago!

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

194 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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the aldi job obviously involves working your arse off to not only manage the store but also do a lot of the jobs that the poorly paid, badly motivated and intellectually challenged staff haven't done. Can you imagine trying to run a business where none of your employees give a st?

Funk

26,370 posts

211 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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I look at what my payslip says I've earned gross this year and it certainly doesn't feel like much once all the deductions are taken out.

Kit80

4,764 posts

189 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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DangerousMike said:
the aldi job obviously involves working your arse off to not only manage the store but also do a lot of the jobs that the poorly paid, badly motivated and intellectually challenged staff haven't done. Can you imagine trying to run a business where none of your employees give a st?
I remember looking around at these jobs about 8 years ago and the Aldi till ops gotpaid £7 p/h then which I thought was pretty damn good. I doubt tesco pay that now.

richyb

4,615 posts

212 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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musclecarmad said:
condor said:
okgo said:
Chris_OCR said:
This has got to be the most surprising one -

Graduate trainee Store Managers at Aldi start on a £40k basic with an Audi company car.

Unbelievable!
Apparently its not quite as easy as it sounds...
That's interesting - Got an interview with them in a few weeks time at their Chelmsford head office.
What's so surprising?
it's tough tough tough, weekends, evenings, mornings, being called out etc etc.

stick at it and its 55k in 3 years etc and then you can jump ship.

i don't know anyone that's gone the distance.

be prepared to talk for 3 minutes on a subject of your choice to an audience
I heard the same thing. They really get their moneys worth. 70 hours a week wasn't uncommon from what I heard.

EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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The petrol tanker drivers and tube drivers are paid so highly because they both have quite a strong union, I can't see it lasting forever though.

TwistingMyMelon

6,387 posts

207 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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EDLT said:
The petrol tanker drivers and tube drivers are paid so highly because they both have quite a strong union, I can't see it lasting forever though.
FFS part of the reason why they get paid so highly is that it is A LOT or responsibility in regards to safety, hence that means increased pay. The unions play a part, but to say they alone mean the highish salaries is very narrow minded.

edc

9,260 posts

253 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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TwistingMyMelon said:
EDLT said:
The petrol tanker drivers and tube drivers are paid so highly because they both have quite a strong union, I can't see it lasting forever though.
FFS part of the reason why they get paid so highly is that it is A LOT or responsibility in regards to safety, hence that means increased pay. The unions play a part, but to say they alone mean the highish salaries is very narrow minded.
We have groups of our workforce represented by union / collective bargaining. Their pay is structured differently as they are in a specific business unit but for their equivalent counterpart in other business units doing the same tyoe of work the salary package is basically the same. The NHS is also highly unionised but I don't see many of them being overpaid.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

194 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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its not much more responsibility than driving a car though, is it? You don't need an extra £20k a year to motivate you not to crash and kill a train full of people, because you have the motivation of not crashing and dying horribly yourself.

ammw

203 posts

185 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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swerni said:
pano amo said:
Anthony Micallef said:
I work in IT Im 37 and dont even make £25k a year. Its so depressing as Im fed up of being on such a pitiful wage at my age.
eek eh, what exactly do you do in IT? Thats an appalling wage for what is quite a highly skilled industry. Plus at 37, you really should be making much better than that in this area(no offence!)
Contract your ass down to London and treble that!
maybe he's really crap wink
Also depends what role he has in "IT" ... saying you work in IT can cover many different jobs: architect (software or infracstructure), analyst, developer (Web, .Net, Java etc..), tester, support, DBA, sys admin, etc...

Also, depends on the industry - e.g. I am a Java developer working in the banking industry. I would probably earn much less in other industries (used to work in electronics manufacturing). OTOH, I could earn a lot more if I went to London as a contractor!