Surprising salaries.
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z4chris99 said:
1/2 years training (paid if you have a training contract)
2 years over 4 seats in the form
6 weeks qualification leave
NQ!
However, I think there is around 16 to 17k law students every year and how many get to work for the city law firms? I would say maybe a thousand tops? for example we only take on up to 30 trainees worldwide a year, then after 2 years retain maybe half that.2 years over 4 seats in the form
6 weeks qualification leave
NQ!
Most of these students end up leaving law or working for a small firm for £15 to £16k where a Partner may only be on 40-50k.
dictys said:
z4chris99 said:
1/2 years training (paid if you have a training contract)
2 years over 4 seats in the form
6 weeks qualification leave
NQ!
However, I think there is around 16 to 17k law students every year and how many get to work for the city law firms? I would say maybe a thousand tops? for example we only take on up to 30 trainees worldwide a year, then after 2 years retain maybe half that.2 years over 4 seats in the form
6 weeks qualification leave
NQ!
Most of these students end up leaving law or working for a small firm for £15 to £16k where a Partner may only be on 40-50k.
Lazygraduate said:
RSoovy4 said:
They can recruit the VERY brightest people by paying that. And they BEAST them.
Trust me...the brightest graduates do not go and work for Aldi!(a) you make a lot of money
(b) you get a brand new Audi and
(c) if you survive it the world is your lobster with other companies.
dictys said:
However, I think there is around 16 to 17k law students every year and how many get to work for the city law firms? I would say maybe a thousand tops? for example we only take on up to 30 trainees worldwide a year, then after 2 years retain maybe half that.
Most of these students end up leaving law or working for a small firm for £15 to £16k where a Partner may only be on 40-50k.
I don't think there are many firms that pay that low (either to the NQ or the Partners!)but for every Training Contract out there (City, Mid-Size, Regional or High Street) there are FAR too many applicants that's for sure.Most of these students end up leaving law or working for a small firm for £15 to £16k where a Partner may only be on 40-50k.
Gatsby said:
I don't think there are many firms that pay that low (either to the NQ or the Partners!)but for every Training Contract out there (City, Mid-Size, Regional or High Street) there are FAR too many applicants that's for sure.
There are absolutely loads that pay that low. Graduates working as Paralegals on the promise of a training contract. Only looking at low 20s when they get a contract...RSoovy4 said:
Lazygraduate said:
RSoovy4 said:
They can recruit the VERY brightest people by paying that. And they BEAST them.
Trust me...the brightest graduates do not go and work for Aldi!(a) you make a lot of money
(b) you get a brand new Audi and
(c) if you survive it the world is your lobster with other companies.
saleen836 said:
Spotted an advert for a paper boy/girl in a Salisbury newsagent at the weekend...£80 per 4 week month!
Had me :O as I can remember being paid £3 a week years ago when i had a paper round.
20 pounds a week Had me :O as I can remember being paid £3 a week years ago when i had a paper round.
<3 pounds a round assuming morning round ( slightly more than 3 gpb / hour is there's still evening rounds ) - in my youth I did various of the rounds for my local newsagent ( you used to start as 'bank ' doing holiday etc cover - the shortest 'full' round was 20 minutes and the longest rounds were closer to an hours - there was one really short round close to the shop but that was also tied to 1 1/2 hours in the shop each morning actually making the rounds up ( and a start time technically in breach of the rules for employing 13-16s)
NerveAgent said:
There are absolutely loads that pay that low. Graduates working as Paralegals on the promise of a training contract. Only looking at low 20s when they get a contract...
Very few, if any, NQs would be on £15/16k which was the figure I was referring to because, until August 2014, the minimum salary for trainees is still in place and that's £16,650 outside of London.Edited by Gatsby on Tuesday 16th April 18:31
RSoovy4 said:
Lazygraduate said:
RSoovy4 said:
They can recruit the VERY brightest people by paying that. And they BEAST them.
Trust me...the brightest graduates do not go and work for Aldi!(a) you make a lot of money
(b) you get a brand new Audi and
(c) if you survive it the world is your lobster with other companies.
Of course, for graduates who want to go into retail, all of the above that you said is absolutely true and the experience will set them up for a great career. I've heard through the grape vine that the first year at Aldi as a graduate is pretty damn tough, hence the high 'burnout' rate on their programme.
I'd also argue that the first year at Slaughters, or Goldman's is most likely just as hard (if not harder) and the attrition rate is an awful lot lower there.
I suppose my job is "surprising" in that it's very rare, I've been doing it full time for around 4 years, the pay is very good at the end of the year but the weekly variance would put 99% of triers off.
The hours are what I choose, but I do quite a few late nights hence my late posts lol.
No qualifications are necessary, and the only tools are a computer and a good internet connection.
Wages are potentially unlimited, but to be realistic I aim to make around the same as the PM, I'm not greedy.
The hours are what I choose, but I do quite a few late nights hence my late posts lol.
No qualifications are necessary, and the only tools are a computer and a good internet connection.
Wages are potentially unlimited, but to be realistic I aim to make around the same as the PM, I'm not greedy.
deeps said:
I suppose my job is "surprising" in that it's very rare, I've been doing it full time for around 4 years, the pay is very good at the end of the year but the weekly variance would put 99% of triers off.
The hours are what I choose, but I do quite a few late nights hence my late posts lol.
No qualifications are necessary, and the only tools are a computer and a good internet connection.
Wages are potentially unlimited, but to be realistic I aim to make around the same as the PM, I'm not greedy.
That, vaguely, is about as vague as a vague person could be, try to be a little more specific, it really doesnt hurt.The hours are what I choose, but I do quite a few late nights hence my late posts lol.
No qualifications are necessary, and the only tools are a computer and a good internet connection.
Wages are potentially unlimited, but to be realistic I aim to make around the same as the PM, I'm not greedy.
Boshly said:
shirt said:
i'd wager he's a sports gambler 
And a full time one 
torqueofthedevil said:
Construction managers are underpaid! Serious amounts of stress, conflict, aggression, generally battling with people from all directions. Often managing an uneducated, unmotivated workforce where you are responsible for the actions of others - and that responsibility can land you in prison if somebody ends up hurt.
A lot of personal risk, long hours and weekends that you are not paid for. Degree doesn't really accelerate a starting point in the career you need to build up experience and knowledge over a long time.
Very common for most of the tradesmen around you to be earning considerably more.
If you think CM's are underpaid want to try being a PM! Exactly the same issues but you are dealing with CM's, design managers, procurement managers & numerous other individuals.A lot of personal risk, long hours and weekends that you are not paid for. Degree doesn't really accelerate a starting point in the career you need to build up experience and knowledge over a long time.
Very common for most of the tradesmen around you to be earning considerably more.
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