Surprising salaries.

[phumy]

GT03ROB said:

torqueofthedevil said:

Construction managers are underpaid! Serious amounts of stress, conflict, aggression, generally battling with people from all directions. Often managing an uneducated, unmotivated workforce where you are responsible for the actions of others - and that responsibility can land you in prison if somebody ends up hurt.

A lot of personal risk, long hours and weekends that you are not paid for. Degree doesn't really accelerate a starting point in the career you need to build up experience and knowledge over a long time.

Very common for most of the tradesmen around you to be earning considerably more.

If you think CM's are underpaid want to try being a PM! Exactly the same issues but you are dealing with CM's, design managers, procurement managers & numerous other individuals.

So how much are PM's underpaid by, in my line of work theyre on $150k to $200k per year. Not bad if they have a good CM working with them doing all the facking hard slog, as one does

[blueST]

drivin_me_nuts said:

SVS said:

Serious question: do university lecturers really work well in excess of 60 hours per week? If so, what are they doing? Without wishing to sound all Daily Mail, I find that hard to believe.

Very much depends upon a number of factors including the subject area and whether the lecturer is active in research. Over the years, for some I have known 60 hours is about half the story. I can think of at least a dozen who have spent well over a 100 hours a week teaching/lab work.

The mix of teaching and research makes the difference, as does personal attitude, as does knowing that your salary comes from a funding body or the university itself... and whether you have a private income to support your research passions.

My second hand experience of lecturers, gained over twenty years (that includes being married to a proactive researcher who was happily into the 100 per hour bracket), it very much depends upon the individual.

...

Edit: On a different note, those working within the consulting side of the IT world are quite nicely paid. Between 700 and 1000 per day are reasonable rates for software consultants in the arena I work in.

Edited by drivin_me_nuts on Sunday 14th April 11:09

My Wife is a Uni Lecturer and she works a lot of hours at home on top of her scheduled teaching. 60 hours a week is far from unusual, although she is only a few years in and is working hard to get made up to to a Senior Lecturer, and she wants to turn out good graduates, not just meet the required pass rate or whatever. As with all jobs, there's a lot to complain about, but I think it is something where, if you put the work in, you'll get rewarded for it in the long run. Plus, everything is much more business like now due the high fees, with students being treated as customers. So if a lecturer is just "phoning it in" with 10 year old notes and a hastily prepared PowerPoint they should get found out eventually.

[GT03ROB]

phumy said:

So how much are PM's underpaid by, in my line of work theyre on $150k to $200k per year. Not bad if they have a good CM working with them doing all the facking hard slog, as one does

If you have a good CM, EM, procurement manager & project controls manager it's OK'ish.

Trouble is you never do! Hence it's a facking hard slog, covering them as one does.

Edited by GT03ROB on Wednesday 17th April 13:46

[phumy]

GT03ROB said:

phumy said:

So how much are PM's underpaid by, in my line of work theyre on $150k to $200k per year. Not bad if they have a good CM working with them doing all the facking hard slog, as one does

If you have a good CM, EM, procurement manager & project controls manager it's OK'ish.

Trouble is you never do! Hence it's a facking hard slog, covering them as one does.

Edited by GT03ROB on Wednesday 17th April 13:46

Oh i dont know, my PM doesnt grumble about his CM

[RealSquirrels]

phumy said:

Oh i dont know, my PM doesnt grumble about his CM

your PM? which country is it you rule again?

[Sir Fergie]

Pulse said:

JumboBeef said:

Paramedic. Up to £43k (top of band 6 + 25% USH) for working three days per week. With overtime, >£50k easily.

And you get to wave at camera vans as you go past

But you typically start on a Band 5 which, ignoring USH, is only 21k base. Very little money for such a demanding job, I'd say.

I'd still love to do it though.

I take it that the 43 k is the absolute top spec wage (overtime excluded) that you can get as a Paramedic - and that you need to be band 6 to get it. And so - thats potentially the wage you could be on after 20 years in the job. Whats more would i be right in assuming that its 3 x 12 hour days (36 hours) for this Paramedic.

I also assume that the 43 k (if your getting it) is pre tax - so assuming thats all correct - i would say that a Paramedic should be very well paid considering the tough job they do.

I imagine if your working somewhere like London - 36 hours as a Paramedic would probably be the same as 50 or 60 hours in an office in terms of how tough your working week is going to be.

Seen plenty of fk ups from office staff over the years - mainly small stupid things rather then big spectacular mess ups to be fair - but theres generally no big deal - the problem gets sorted everyone gets on with their life.

If a Paramedic messes up however - then that could be a life lost - whats more the Paramedics as far as i know have to be registerd with the HPC - they need that to practise as a Paramedic.

If they mess up - they can i believe have that registration withdrawn.

Tough job - and to be honest 43 k at the very top end - i don't have any problem with it - far better then paying a diversity officer or the like the same salary.

Sir Fergie

[illmonkey]

phumy said:

deeps said:

I suppose my job is "surprising" in that it's very rare, I've been doing it full time for around 4 years, the pay is very good at the end of the year but the weekly variance would put 99% of triers off.

The hours are what I choose, but I do quite a few late nights hence my late posts lol.

No qualifications are necessary, and the only tools are a computer and a good internet connection.

Wages are potentially unlimited, but to be realistic I aim to make around the same as the PM, I'm not greedy.

That, vaguely, is about as vague as a vague person could be, try to be a little more specific, it really doesnt hurt.

He's a hooker.

No, really, his profile says "sports gambler".

[GT03ROB]

phumy said:

GT03ROB said:

phumy said:

So how much are PM's underpaid by, in my line of work theyre on $150k to $200k per year. Not bad if they have a good CM working with them doing all the facking hard slog, as one does

If you have a good CM, EM, procurement manager & project controls manager it's OK'ish.

Trouble is you never do! Hence it's a facking hard slog, covering them as one does.

Edited by GT03ROB on Wednesday 17th April 13:46

Oh i dont know, my PM doesnt grumble about his CM

I don't grumble about either of my CM's much either. And today is a good day....only 2 rants required so far!

[edc]

Gatsby said:

NerveAgent said:

There are absolutely loads that pay that low. Graduates working as Paralegals on the promise of a training contract. Only looking at low 20s when they get a contract...

Very few, if any, NQs would be on £15/16k which was the figure I was referring to because, until August 2014, the minimum salary for trainees is still in place and that's £16,650 outside of London.

Edited by Gatsby on Tuesday 16th April 18:31

I studied Law and part completed my LPC. I subsequently changed direction. Whilst my salary is not like those linked to at the top City law firms I am fairly happy with my lot. Of the people I knew who studied Law I would say that perhaps only 50% of them went on to thave a longer term legal career. Of those, probably half of them slogged it out at the beginning as a paralegal and perhaps only a small minority had a sponsored LPC.

[Pulse]

Sir Fergie said:

i would say that a Paramedic should be very well paid considering the tough job they do.

Tough job - and to be honest 43 k at the very top end - i don't have any problem with it - far better then paying a diversity officer or the like the same salary.

Sir Fergie

Exactly. £43k is not a lot when you consider that is including USH pay. As you've said, it'll take you a while to get to the top of Band 6, too.

[robm3]

Group GM Procurement £230k + bonus 25%

[chrisxr2]

Also store manager is 50k assistant on 25k but you easily do the job of two people. Also graduate scheme is not highly respected outside aldi that is a phallacy unfortunately.

[quote=sunoco69]


Seem's way to high. Large ASDA Store were the wife works the Manager gets 40K plus a car.
They can recruit the VERY brightest people by paying that. And they BEAST them.
Trust me...the brightest graduates do not go and work for Aldi!
I think you'll find that the Aldi Grad Programme is massively sought after, because

(a) you make a lot of money
(b) you get a brand new Audi and
(c) if you survive it the world is your lobster with other companies

Edited by chrisxr2 on Wednesday 24th April 18:45

[pboyd]

Sought after? Perhaps

Brightest grads? Doubt it!

[Krise]

torqueofthedevil said:

I think 45k+ would be about right. There are lot of variables but that is the right ball park.

45 seems very low for a CM I'm just a lowly site manager working in boggo social housing refurb internals and I'm clearing 40 with a 3k bonus last Xmas

A CM in my company I reckon must be around 65 then bonus / car / allowance healthcare ect

[torqueofthedevil]

Krise said:

torqueofthedevil said:

I think 45k+ would be about right. There are lot of variables but that is the right ball park.

45 seems very low for a CM I'm just a lowly site manager working in boggo social housing refurb internals and I'm clearing 40 with a 3k bonus last Xmas

A CM in my company I reckon must be around 65 then bonus / car / allowance healthcare ect

CM = site manager now.

[Krise]

torqueofthedevil said:

CM = site manager now.

Really ? I would be a bit miffed if I was CM doing my job at the minute !

[oddjober]

If I could have my life again i'd become a G.P. .....oh why oh why didn't i follow that path?

[liner33]

Dentists have better hours

Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some

[mph1977]

liner33 said:

Dentists have better hours

Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some

however 'retirement' at whatever age for Doctors and dentists is rarely an actual retirement rather than a case of choosing where and when to work ...

[oddjober]

Commodity oil traders earn $1m+

Hell look at all commodity traders/finance/legal at huge trading companies like Glencore, VITOL etc...starting salary about 50k, £100k normal and potential millions.

Hedge fund manages.......hundreds of millions..ok only the top 0.5% but I'll be the staff all clear 100k+ as well.

there a whole world out there I never knew existed.

But my careers advisor at school never mentioned this to me :-(

Edited by oddjober on Tuesday 21st May 14:06