Contractors: IR35 & general discussion
Discussion
T5R+ said:
CzechItOut said:
........CVs are far a more detailed resume I am prepared to share with only certain people.
I get this. In fact have a 1-page CV that recruiters receive and tend to ask for it to be fleshed whilst C-Suite and B-Level seem to appreciate the summary 1 pager. Naturally, the "pimp" (a contractor's endearing terminology for a recruitment professional) gets the 4-pager CV but only if mutual interest and we have agreed (or not) suitability of role after speaking.
Ironically, only ever been approached a handful of times via LinkedIn in nearly 2 decades. Obviously, I must be doing something wrong.
If you're not getting approached (and you want to be) then it's definitely worth putting the effort into a decent LinkedIn profile.
Bluedot said:
T5R+ said:
CzechItOut said:
........CVs are far a more detailed resume I am prepared to share with only certain people.
I get this. In fact have a 1-page CV that recruiters receive and tend to ask for it to be fleshed whilst C-Suite and B-Level seem to appreciate the summary 1 pager. Naturally, the "pimp" (a contractor's endearing terminology for a recruitment professional) gets the 4-pager CV but only if mutual interest and we have agreed (or not) suitability of role after speaking.
Ironically, only ever been approached a handful of times via LinkedIn in nearly 2 decades. Obviously, I must be doing something wrong.
If you're not getting approached (and you want to be) then it's definitely worth putting the effort into a decent LinkedIn profile.
Olivera said:
It's Friday night and I've opened a beer - any contractors got something interesting of the 4 wheeled variety?
A chap I worked with quit a gig for more cash. 4 weeks later the PM panics and calls him up saying name your price to come back. He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
rustyuk said:
A chap I worked with quit a gig for more cash. 4 weeks later the PM panics and calls him up saying name your price to come back.
He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
Completely made up I’m sure. Hired help gets one over on the boss man. Happens all the time.He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
wormus said:
rustyuk said:
A chap I worked with quit a gig for more cash. 4 weeks later the PM panics and calls him up saying name your price to come back.
He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
Completely made up I’m sure. Hired help gets one over on the boss man. Happens all the time.He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
Happys all the time. Apparently. On the internet.
Interesting one popped up on Jobserve, first one I've seen saying No British Citizens need apply !
Job Title: Security Accreditation Specialist (INFOSEC) - EU Citizen
Location: Brussels - But will be Remote until Covid Restrictions are lifted
Pay Rate: 530 per day
Contract Length: 3 months Initially then Long term
Must Be an EU Citizen - NO BRITISH (due to BREXIT)
Job Title: Security Accreditation Specialist (INFOSEC) - EU Citizen
Location: Brussels - But will be Remote until Covid Restrictions are lifted
Pay Rate: 530 per day
Contract Length: 3 months Initially then Long term
Must Be an EU Citizen - NO BRITISH (due to BREXIT)
AndrewO said:
Interesting one popped up on Jobserve, first one I've seen saying No British Citizens need apply !
Job Title: Security Accreditation Specialist (INFOSEC) - EU Citizen
Location: Brussels - But will be Remote until Covid Restrictions are lifted
Pay Rate: 530 per day
Contract Length: 3 months Initially then Long term
Must Be an EU Citizen - NO BRITISH (due to BREXIT)
I thought that was normal (for both sides)? I know for our recruitment we are checking that they are entitled to live/work in the UK.Job Title: Security Accreditation Specialist (INFOSEC) - EU Citizen
Location: Brussels - But will be Remote until Covid Restrictions are lifted
Pay Rate: 530 per day
Contract Length: 3 months Initially then Long term
Must Be an EU Citizen - NO BRITISH (due to BREXIT)
rustyuk said:
Olivera said:
It's Friday night and I've opened a beer - any contractors got something interesting of the 4 wheeled variety?
A chap I worked with quit a gig for more cash. 4 weeks later the PM panics and calls him up saying name your price to come back. He comes back and a week later gets his an Aston delivered to the work car park.
Pissed off loads of people, it was ace!
£900 Astra, £1200 mx5 £360 volvo S40, £0 mk3 cavalier, £830 Astra (total depreciation on that lot = £50) and now a £525 omega 3.2 mv6
Spare cash is working hard towards bringing retirement sooner rather than later, not on depreciation on status symbols.
Just had my contract renewed for 6 months (yay) but been told I have to take a 20% cut in day rate due to Covid, financial uncertainties, economic downturn blah blah blah. The client company is huge and turns over billions.
I'm going to have to take it on the chin as it's 6 months work and don't want to be looking for a new contract in these uncertain times but I'm pretty pissed off that they've dropped this a week before my current contract was about to expire. They've got us over a barrel.
I'm going to have to take it on the chin as it's 6 months work and don't want to be looking for a new contract in these uncertain times but I'm pretty pissed off that they've dropped this a week before my current contract was about to expire. They've got us over a barrel.
Pit Pony said:
In 11 years contracting, I've made sure none of my cars was worth more than 4 times the average montly PCP payment in the employees car park.
£900 Astra, £1200 mx5 £360 volvo S40, £0 mk3 cavalier, £830 Astra (total depreciation on that lot = £50) and now a £525 omega 3.2 mv6
Spare cash is working hard towards bringing retirement sooner rather than later, not on depreciation on status symbols.
This is PH, so we don't drive cars as a status symbol £900 Astra, £1200 mx5 £360 volvo S40, £0 mk3 cavalier, £830 Astra (total depreciation on that lot = £50) and now a £525 omega 3.2 mv6
Spare cash is working hard towards bringing retirement sooner rather than later, not on depreciation on status symbols.
Olivera said:
Pit Pony said:
In 11 years contracting, I've made sure none of my cars was worth more than 4 times the average montly PCP payment in the employees car park.
£900 Astra, £1200 mx5 £360 volvo S40, £0 mk3 cavalier, £830 Astra (total depreciation on that lot = £50) and now a £525 omega 3.2 mv6
Spare cash is working hard towards bringing retirement sooner rather than later, not on depreciation on status symbols.
This is PH, so we don't drive cars as a status symbol £900 Astra, £1200 mx5 £360 volvo S40, £0 mk3 cavalier, £830 Astra (total depreciation on that lot = £50) and now a £525 omega 3.2 mv6
Spare cash is working hard towards bringing retirement sooner rather than later, not on depreciation on status symbols.
Guvernator said:
Even if I had something nice in the garage, I wouldn't drive it to a customer site. Nothing saying you can't enjoy it in your own time but showing up at a client site in an Aston is very likely to raise eyebrows and cause permie envy which is never a good thing.
I dont think i've ever had a contractor colleague who dumped vast sums into cars.Any with sense tend to keep their day rate details / spending well away from permies.
Guvernator said:
Just had my contract renewed for 6 months (yay) but been told I have to take a 20% cut in day rate due to Covid, financial uncertainties, economic downturn blah blah blah. The client company is huge and turns over billions.
I'm going to have to take it on the chin as it's 6 months work and don't want to be looking for a new contract in these uncertain times but I'm pretty pissed off that they've dropped this a week before my current contract was about to expire. They've got us over a barrel.
Seeing this a lot myself at present. The number of roles out there is pretty low and the rates are well down. I have an opportunity for a permanent role and for the first time since I started contracted, I'm thinking about it. Higher take home with all the usual benefits. All the usual downsides too of course but it's a bit hard to overlook at present. I'm going to have to take it on the chin as it's 6 months work and don't want to be looking for a new contract in these uncertain times but I'm pretty pissed off that they've dropped this a week before my current contract was about to expire. They've got us over a barrel.
Gad-Westy said:
The idea of a contractor rocking up in an Aston to laud it over everyone is laughable. A total world away from the behaviour of contractors that I've seen.
Exactly. I've been contracting for 20+ years and pretty much every contractor I know turns up in either something really anonymous and middle-of-the road, or else a snotter. Anyone who does the dick move of rubbing peoples' noses in it is a dick. And dicks do dickish things regardless of their employment status.
So, as you say, laughable.
Gad-Westy said:
The idea of a contractor rocking up in an Aston to laud it over everyone is laughable. A total world away from the behaviour of contractors that I've seen.
It is a world away for most of the connys I know, but one sticks out in my mind.On his first shift he turned up in his M5, which was bumped in to a few days later. Courtesy car was an E63 AMG, then a 640d grand coupe, before he got the M5 back. The permys were all screwing about the cars he was turning up in for some reason. It wasn't ever about rubbing anyone's nose in anything.
He found it quite funny that every time he took a different car out of his unit to give them a run, the permys would be up in arms. One permy in particular who was financing a 10 year old diesel TT didn't like it when he bought an old Audi S2 on a whim, without finance, to add to the collection.
In the end he just started doing it to wind the perm staff up, because the way they were being about it was ridiculous. What they didn't seem to grasp is that it's all about choices, and any one of them could've made the leap to contracting to fund/indulge their passion.
CX53 said:
It is a world away for most of the connys I know, but one sticks out in my mind.
On his first shift he turned up in his M5, which was bumped in to a few days later. Courtesy car was an E63 AMG, then a 640d grand coupe, before he got the M5 back. The permys were all screwing about the cars he was turning up in for some reason. It wasn't ever about rubbing anyone's nose in anything.
He found it quite funny that every time he took a different car out of his unit to give them a run, the permys would be up in arms. One permy in particular who was financing a 10 year old diesel TT didn't like it when he bought an old Audi S2 on a whim, without finance, to add to the collection.
In the end he just started doing it to wind the perm staff up, because the way they were being about it was ridiculous. What they didn't seem to grasp is that it's all about choices, and any one of them could've made the leap to contracting to fund/indulge their passion.
I’ve known a few like that, usually financed to the hilt and desperate to impress. The ones who care what car you drive are not usually the ones who decide your future.On his first shift he turned up in his M5, which was bumped in to a few days later. Courtesy car was an E63 AMG, then a 640d grand coupe, before he got the M5 back. The permys were all screwing about the cars he was turning up in for some reason. It wasn't ever about rubbing anyone's nose in anything.
He found it quite funny that every time he took a different car out of his unit to give them a run, the permys would be up in arms. One permy in particular who was financing a 10 year old diesel TT didn't like it when he bought an old Audi S2 on a whim, without finance, to add to the collection.
In the end he just started doing it to wind the perm staff up, because the way they were being about it was ridiculous. What they didn't seem to grasp is that it's all about choices, and any one of them could've made the leap to contracting to fund/indulge their passion.
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