Surprising salaries.

[petop]

M777CUS said:

pboyd said:

Countdown said:

Congratulations

What's the new job?

Assume 'protection'?

would think so, must be good too. sure i read recently that the salary for these chaps had dropped off significantly recently (less than half of what the poster stated)

Your right about the market saturated with PMC's and only top operatives getting the good money. No, im not doing "security" work although ill make use of them to get around if the military wont let me catch a lift!

[Soir]

petop said:

M777CUS said:

pboyd said:

Countdown said:

Congratulations

What's the new job?

Assume 'protection'?

would think so, must be good too. sure i read recently that the salary for these chaps had dropped off significantly recently (less than half of what the poster stated)

Your right about the market saturated with PMC's and only top operatives getting the good money. No, im not doing "security" work although ill make use of them to get around if the military wont let me catch a lift!

Do you have to kill us if you tell us?!

[HannsG]

BMWBen said:

It's all very firm specific. I was an AVP with nobody to manage. At my current firm you can be an "executive director" on technical ability alone.

Are you in banking? Executive Director with no direct reports? Thats surprising

[BMWBen]

I am. Definitely not common, but possible. I'm not one, btw

[matchmaker]

torqueofthedevil said:

Krise said:

torqueofthedevil said:

I think 45k+ would be about right. There are lot of variables but that is the right ball park.

45 seems very low for a CM I'm just a lowly site manager working in boggo social housing refurb internals and I'm clearing 40 with a 3k bonus last Xmas

A CM in my company I reckon must be around 65 then bonus / car / allowance healthcare ect

CM = site manager now.

Or you could be a lowly Contracts Administrator on £18k trying to keep all these CM/PM/SM provided with the myriad of paperwork they must have yesterday if not before. At the same time as trying to make up a Health & Safety File for two of the jobs, complete two PQQ in the next 2 hours and tidy up a Powerpoint presentation that the MD needs in 10 minutes for a client presentation. In the middle of all this one of the estimators comes in with a tender that must be delivered 30 miles away by 12 noon. It's now 11am.

I quite enjoy it for some bizarre reason!

[Mattt]

matchmaker said:

Or you could be a lowly Contracts Administrator on £18k trying to keep all these CM/PM/SM provided with the myriad of paperwork they must have yesterday if not before. At the same time as trying to make up a Health & Safety File for two of the jobs, complete two PQQ in the next 2 hours and tidy up a Powerpoint presentation that the MD needs in 10 minutes for a client presentation. In the middle of all this one of the estimators comes in with a tender that must be delivered 30 miles away by 12 noon. It's now 11am.

I quite enjoy it for some bizarre reason!

You sound more like an Admin than Contracts Admin

[matchmaker]

Mattt said:

matchmaker said:

Or you could be a lowly Contracts Administrator on £18k trying to keep all these CM/PM/SM provided with the myriad of paperwork they must have yesterday if not before. At the same time as trying to make up a Health & Safety File for two of the jobs, complete two PQQ in the next 2 hours and tidy up a Powerpoint presentation that the MD needs in 10 minutes for a client presentation. In the middle of all this one of the estimators comes in with a tender that must be delivered 30 miles away by 12 noon. It's now 11am.

I quite enjoy it for some bizarre reason!

You sound more like an Admin than Contracts Admin

I am Mr Jack of all trades. Master of many!

[Mattt]

Contract Administrators don't make H&S files for Ops staff, nor do they act as a delivery boy.

[Olf]

Mattt said:

Contract Administrators don't make H&S files for Ops staff, nor do they act as a delivery boy.

Anyone with experience in a small, or worse, family company, would disagree. Titles mean nothing, getting the job, any job, done means everything.

[matchmaker]

Olf said:

Mattt said:

Contract Administrators don't make H&S files for Ops staff, nor do they act as a delivery boy.

Anyone with experience in a small, or worse, family company, would disagree. Titles mean nothing, getting the job, any job, done means everything.

Thanks. I do what I have to do

[Anthony Micallef]

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

[Art0ir]

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

[arfur]

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Get a contract then ... you are doing it wrong

[Art0ir]

arfur said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Get a contract then ... you are doing it wrong

Is there much money/demand in contracts for mid level support work like that?

[Anthony Micallef]

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Im not technical enough to go in to 3rd Line Support.

[Anthony Micallef]

arfur said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Get a contract then ... you are doing it wrong

This is something Im currently thinking about doing.

[Art0ir]

Anthony Micallef said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Im not technical enough to go in to 3rd Line Support.

Then push for more training or move to a company interested in developing your technical ability? My soul would be sucked out of me if I was in a support role for 10 years. 2 was enough for me. Get a bit of drive behind you!

[Anthony Micallef]

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Im not technical enough to go in to 3rd Line Support.

Then push for more training or move to a company interested in developing your technical ability? My soul would be sucked out of me if I was in a support role for 10 years. 2 was enough for me. Get a bit of drive behind you!

What I mean is no amount of training is going to get me good enough for 3rd line, Im just not technically minded enough.

After 10 years I have no soul left! Ive never been career driven and have just plodded along. I know I only have myself to blame.

[Anthony Micallef]

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Im not technical enough to go in to 3rd Line Support.

Then push for more training or move to a company interested in developing your technical ability? My soul would be sucked out of me if I was in a support role for 10 years. 2 was enough for me. Get a bit of drive behind you!

What I mean is no amount of training is going to get me good enough for 3rd line, Im just not technically minded enough.

After 10 years I have no soul left! Ive never been career driven and have just plodded along. I know I only have myself to blame.

[Art0ir]

Anthony Micallef said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

Art0ir said:

Anthony Micallef said:

crazy about cars said:

illmonkey said:

Hudson said:

IT. no overtime, 1/3 weekends - just under 20k

such is life

IT. You're doing it wrong.

£20k is basic 1st job 1st line support money.

Exactly. I was earning £30k when I first started. Although have to say no bonus though

I've been in IT for 10 years and im only on £24k basic plus 12.5% shift allowance and thats for a 2nd line Support Role.

Push yourself into 3rd line then?

Im not technical enough to go in to 3rd Line Support.

Then push for more training or move to a company interested in developing your technical ability? My soul would be sucked out of me if I was in a support role for 10 years. 2 was enough for me. Get a bit of drive behind you!

What I mean is no amount of training is going to get me good enough for 3rd line, Im just not technically minded enough.

After 10 years I have no soul left! Ive never been career driven and have just plodded along. I know I only have myself to blame.

Then why not try to move across to another discipline within IT? I know plenty of people that are happy with a "job for life" type existence but if you're not one of them there's no reason to sit still.