Clock in/Clock off jobs - 45-50k
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Personally I think stress depends more on the individual than the job.
Taking a lower paid job will increase your resentment of people earning more knowing “I could do that job so much better”, and there is nothing that will increase your stress levels more than not being able to pay the bills.
Taking a lower paid job will increase your resentment of people earning more knowing “I could do that job so much better”, and there is nothing that will increase your stress levels more than not being able to pay the bills.
Cliffe60 said:
Personally I think stress depends more on the individual than the job.
Taking a lower paid job will increase your resentment of people earning more knowing “I could do that job so much better”, and there is nothing that will increase your stress levels more than not being able to pay the bills.
It would be great if I could save enough money and investments to be able to take a crap job and not worry about money. Then I can watch all the people earning more, making tough decisions and being glad I don't have to. Every night, taking the long way home in my sports car! Taking a lower paid job will increase your resentment of people earning more knowing “I could do that job so much better”, and there is nothing that will increase your stress levels more than not being able to pay the bills.
I know it’s not a sector change, but civil service IT project manager. Each organisation has slightly different pay and rules but the one I’m with is 55k/year start at 7 finish at 330-400 Monday to Thursday. Friday use the flexi I’ve built up through week to work 7-1 or 8-2 depending on meetings. 25 days leave starting after 5 years 30 days + 8 bh + queens birthday. Mostly no stress, occasionally have to work longer than mentioned above but it’s all banked as flexi. Decent pension still. Should be able to retire around 55.
I'll add another recommendation for civil service/public sector. Sure it won't tick all your boxes but there are stacks of non public facing roles that pay a decent amount (with experience) with flexible working and not much commitment.
Public sector take health, safety and well-being very seriously so sticking to your contracted 37-40 hours a week is acceptable. Plenty of people do more than that but mainly because they care about their job and customers (and want to get a promotion). You could get paid the same as them and not care and just do contracted hours and you'd still be a valued member of staff.
Don't expect bonuses, pay rises, expense accounts, company cars, private health care etc though.
Public sector take health, safety and well-being very seriously so sticking to your contracted 37-40 hours a week is acceptable. Plenty of people do more than that but mainly because they care about their job and customers (and want to get a promotion). You could get paid the same as them and not care and just do contracted hours and you'd still be a valued member of staff.
Don't expect bonuses, pay rises, expense accounts, company cars, private health care etc though.
I stand on the opposite side. I was working as a mechanical engineer in oil and gas construction (EPC). previous work was in a mega project in Kuwait which was the 8th largest refinery built from scratch which itself was a world record.
But now I don't even get a interview call and got into a warehouse FLT role. Thinking of doing online Uber food delivery for extra income. I never thought I would be jobless coz I worked in a particular field.
But now I don't even get a interview call and got into a warehouse FLT role. Thinking of doing online Uber food delivery for extra income. I never thought I would be jobless coz I worked in a particular field.
The company I work for has people two rungs above me (I’m at the bottom of this branch of the business) on £45-50k a year and mechanical fitters on that too, with 10% pension contributions and bonuses.
These guys take some responsibility for things but nothing that forces them to be on call 24/7 or take work home.
These guys take some responsibility for things but nothing that forces them to be on call 24/7 or take work home.
There's class 1 HGV driver work based near the Dartford crossing that pays £41k mon-fri days, it goes up to £45k if you agree to be the gopher. Think I average 55 hrs a week over the year, some weeks it's 50 some it's 70. No responsibility or thinking needed, you just get given a few jobs to complete and get left alone for the day.
TCX said:
Drive a dumptruck.....no seriously turn up,drive automatic,leave it in D,retarder,engine brake,air suspended seat,radio on,digger driver pips horn....drive off....dozer driver lifts blade ..tip there,repeat,Mon to Fri,paying around £18hr,plenty work on hs2 areas,cpcs training course less than a grand 4 days
I saw a job the other day, £180 a day for a telehandler driver, I thought to myself, that’s not bad, is it time to retrain?I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
s p a c e m a n said:
There's class 1 HGV driver work based near the Dartford crossing that pays £41k mon-fri days, it goes up to £45k if you agree to be the gopher. Think I average 55 hrs a week over the year, some weeks it's 50 some it's 70. No responsibility or thinking needed, you just get given a few jobs to complete and get left alone for the day.
Err... other than driving an enormous vehicle which could easily kill an entire family or more if you have a momentary lapse in concentration. I’d hardly call that “no responsibility”. Universities are a mix of public sector / civil service.
Many university admin roles are 9-5 (or rather flex time with core hours) and there are a lot of admins.
Have good pension schemes. Strict log off for holidays, etc. Extra holidays on top of the bank holidays.
A bit dark ages on technology, etc
Not ageist and value experienced hires (generally)
Lots of committees and working groups to avoid accountability.
Edit to add: if you are IT savvy you could probably automate some of your role and just look busy.
Many university admin roles are 9-5 (or rather flex time with core hours) and there are a lot of admins.
Have good pension schemes. Strict log off for holidays, etc. Extra holidays on top of the bank holidays.
A bit dark ages on technology, etc
Not ageist and value experienced hires (generally)
Lots of committees and working groups to avoid accountability.
Edit to add: if you are IT savvy you could probably automate some of your role and just look busy.
Edited by vaud on Friday 21st May 20:58
RammyMP said:
I saw a job the other day, £180 a day for a telehandler driver, I thought to myself, that’s not bad, is it time to retrain?
I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
How to get trained as a telehandler? Are there different categories for that? Or just 1 licence for all such equipment variations? I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
legendracer said:
RammyMP said:
I saw a job the other day, £180 a day for a telehandler driver, I thought to myself, that’s not bad, is it time to retrain?
I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
How to get trained as a telehandler? Are there different categories for that? Or just 1 licence for all such equipment variations? I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
RammyMP said:
legendracer said:
RammyMP said:
I saw a job the other day, £180 a day for a telehandler driver, I thought to myself, that’s not bad, is it time to retrain?
I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
How to get trained as a telehandler? Are there different categories for that? Or just 1 licence for all such equipment variations? I work in the construction industry in management but I’ve got a CSCS card...
You may need to read up some more on that.
When I looked it, there were two tickets, red and blue, sites want blue which you get from having a red ticket and then further experience and tests to get the blue one. It's a no experience no job scenario.
On some sites, you will not be on the telehandler all day. You will be expected to labour, sometimes do the cleaning of the welfare and toilets (on some sites that's worth the daily rate on its own!)
If you are on a large site you will be busy all day,and expected to work overtime if the telehandler is in demand.
One perk is that the brickies will keep you in beer to keep the bricks coming.
There is a Facebook group for "forkies' which will give you some insight into the industry
Depending on where you live you may also be travelling if there is no local work.
When I looked it, there were two tickets, red and blue, sites want blue which you get from having a red ticket and then further experience and tests to get the blue one. It's a no experience no job scenario.
On some sites, you will not be on the telehandler all day. You will be expected to labour, sometimes do the cleaning of the welfare and toilets (on some sites that's worth the daily rate on its own!)
If you are on a large site you will be busy all day,and expected to work overtime if the telehandler is in demand.
One perk is that the brickies will keep you in beer to keep the bricks coming.
There is a Facebook group for "forkies' which will give you some insight into the industry
Depending on where you live you may also be travelling if there is no local work.
bristolracer said:
You may need to read up some more on that.
When I looked it, there were two tickets, red and blue, sites want blue which you get from having a red ticket and then further experience and tests to get the blue one. It's a no experience no job scenario.
On some sites, you will not be on the telehandler all day. You will be expected to labour, sometimes do the cleaning of the welfare and toilets (on some sites that's worth the daily rate on its own!)
If you are on a large site you will be busy all day,and expected to work overtime if the telehandler is in demand.
One perk is that the brickies will keep you in beer to keep the bricks coming.
There is a Facebook group for "forkies' which will give you some insight into the industry
Depending on where you live you may also be travelling if there is no local work.
The last few sites I’ve been on the gateman drove the forks. I don’t know about travelling as there seems to be plenty sites on the go near me at the moment (Manchester).When I looked it, there were two tickets, red and blue, sites want blue which you get from having a red ticket and then further experience and tests to get the blue one. It's a no experience no job scenario.
On some sites, you will not be on the telehandler all day. You will be expected to labour, sometimes do the cleaning of the welfare and toilets (on some sites that's worth the daily rate on its own!)
If you are on a large site you will be busy all day,and expected to work overtime if the telehandler is in demand.
One perk is that the brickies will keep you in beer to keep the bricks coming.
There is a Facebook group for "forkies' which will give you some insight into the industry
Depending on where you live you may also be travelling if there is no local work.
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