Curse of the comfortable job
Discussion
SpunkyGlory said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
That income is probably about right for someone of your age in a professional role.
I'm quite sure there are a lot of people of the same age in a professional role who would disagree with you.
BoRED S2upid said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
What is the nature of the role? Out of interest,
IT support. When it needs supporting. I totally believe that all IT jobs are like this and if they wanted to they could build computers that didn’t go wrong but then they would all be out of a job. BlindedByTheLights said:
BoRED S2upid said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
What is the nature of the role? Out of interest,
IT support. When it needs supporting. I totally believe that all IT jobs are like this and if they wanted to they could build computers that didn’t go wrong but then they would all be out of a job. deja.vu said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
BoRED S2upid said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
What is the nature of the role? Out of interest,
IT support. When it needs supporting. I totally believe that all IT jobs are like this and if they wanted to they could build computers that didn’t go wrong but then they would all be out of a job. BlindedByTheLights said:
No it’s a genuine question, I’m not in IT so don’t know what the role involves which is why I asked,
IT is over paid. I've worked in IT for 22 years. There is far more demand for resources than there are people capable of doing it.Yes sometimes you might not be able to access the VPN and someone will fix it in a few minutes, and get paid a lot to do it. But they aren't being paid for the 5 minutes it took to fix it, they are being paid for the 2,5,10 years etc it took them to learn how to fix it in 5 minutes. Plus a premium that the vast majority of people out there don't know how to fix it and never will so those that do benefit.
Scabutz said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
No it’s a genuine question, I’m not in IT so don’t know what the role involves which is why I asked,
IT is over paid. I've worked in IT for 22 years. There is far more demand for resources than there are people capable of doing it.Yes sometimes you might not be able to access the VPN and someone will fix it in a few minutes, and get paid a lot to do it. But they aren't being paid for the 5 minutes it took to fix it, they are being paid for the 2,5,10 years etc it took them to learn how to fix it in 5 minutes. Plus a premium that the vast majority of people out there don't know how to fix it and never will so those that do benefit.
Obviously the bloke isn’t in generic IT support which is a fairly averagely paid job because anyone can do it with some limited training. At my company all the IT support are in cheap labour countries
I doubt he’s contracting based on what he’s said either. So probably it’s something highly niche within a well paid sector.
I doubt he’s contracting based on what he’s said either. So probably it’s something highly niche within a well paid sector.
BlindedByTheLights said:
Thanks, my question wasn’t born out of value of the role. It is genuinely not a function I get involved with so wanted to know more about actually the type of work that is done, thanks. And yes is is the old story of the $10 hammer and the $9,990 in knowing where to hit story.
So to add to it. Complexity largely depends on the environment. Someone above suggested banking at that salary and I don't think the OP responded but I would agree that's where they work.
Often it's not how hard it is to fix, but how important it is to fix it. For example say your menial IT job is to help people who have forgotten their passwords. The person helping the librarian at the local library won't be earning much, but the person that is there to make sure a stocl trader can access their resources is going to be paid a lot more.
Job is ultimately the same, outcome very different.
Tech support can encompass many things so I don't want to answer for the OP as I don't know what they do, but it could be reset passwords, add users to security groups so they can access things, investigate security incidents, right up to complex configuration tasks. Its about enabling the tech that people rely on.
You have a fine income. I'd consider a smaller mortgage that could be paid off in a few years, then work a short week or plan for early retirement. Why waste decades of your life paying off a massive mortgage just so you can live in a bigger house?
A triple garage and a swimming pool would be nice, but not if the cost is 15 extra years chained to a desk.
A triple garage and a swimming pool would be nice, but not if the cost is 15 extra years chained to a desk.
Bluesgirl said:
If they've already considered outsourcing your role, why not suggest that you move to a consultancy role, doing the same job? You could increase your income (higher fees to them because they're saving on NI etc) and you'll have more time on your hands to start up a new venture that challenges you and/or explore new hobbies/interests.
This seems to have been missed by the OP. Agree, if they’ve considered it previously surely the best solution all round is to outsource your role to yourself. You could then look for other contracts in the same niche to reap $ in the short term, or else free yourself up for other plans. If your role can be done remotely then this could be the perfect outcome.GS2 said:
it requires on average a couple of hours work a day
I’m all for hard work and pushing your boundaries to make life feel more interesting and worth while (money/stuff only really bring very short temporary relief I find).Just be-careful of what you wish for, this was my dairy this week just for meetings/presentation - actual ‘work’/thinking time isn’t fitted in. Next week is pretty much the same. I can tell you for once on a Friday I couldn’t wait to head home and not open up the work emails…….I promised myself not to do any work this weekend, sadly at 10 minutes to 10pm, that promise is about to be broken!!!
There is a balance somewhere to the found, sounds like we are at two ends of the extreme, the £££££ I’ve come to realise isn’t something to get worried about if you have the skills and ability, time/balance with life is the far harder bit to achieve.
okgo said:
You just realise that NHS work isn’t like anything private sector though.
My calendar looks similar to yours but it’s my ‘job’ there’s nothing outside of it beyond normal things. My managers calendar makes yours look like nursery school, but it’s his job, there’s nothing much else.
OP only has to 'work' a few hours a day though, it's nnmot even 9-5, sounds like 9-11 My calendar looks similar to yours but it’s my ‘job’ there’s nothing outside of it beyond normal things. My managers calendar makes yours look like nursery school, but it’s his job, there’s nothing much else.
.I was acutally also clinically oncall 24/7 from 9am Monday to 4pm Friday, frequented ITU almost daily whilst, the last clinical oncall call was 420pm. Fitting in all my addtional managent work was let's say 'interesting'. I'm not entirely convinced I've worked out the balance yet, but I do think I can get away without doing any additional work this weekend despite 2 board papers in due soon, the most disruptive IA episode to plan for, and a transformational project that's just about ready to go from my head to rough paper.
As I've said many time before I LOVE what I do, and cannot believe I actually get paid for the job. Seeing what you do make a real difference in the real world is quite an addictive feeling. 630am standing at the shop floor in ED 30 minutes before the first junior doctor strike in 10 years, and wondering if planning will actually work or is the whole thing going to collapse in a heap........its a buzz.
But hearing the announcement of the 4 day strike, coinciding with Easter school holidays, and knowing the implications of that for the staff and patients, wasn't that helpful, and let's say I was bit distracted during the meeting I chaired just after the BMA tweet came out......that was/is stress I didn't need or want.
Working for 2-3hrs a day like the OP is doing, I can see why they have a 'problem' with their job regardless of pay.
Different people are motivated by different things, ££££ has never really done it for me, enjoyment of the job had always been more important, but I realise that's abnormal. A balance is better.
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 1st April 06:26
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