Bypassing a recruitment consultant

[Engineer1]

Just be careful, I had a situation a few years back where my CV had landed on the HR department's desk from two sources resulting in the bizarre situation of having a rejection letter and an invite to interview from the same company arriving in an order that meant it looked like they had changed their mind about the interview.

[condor]

I applied direct to a company via a local newspaper advert and heard nothing from them, 2 weeks later it's now on the on-line recruitment websites so I've applied again via that route. Does anyone know if recruitment agencies pick up on the local newspaper ads and then try and sell the company the applicant? as opposed to the company approaching them and asking them to find someone.

[hondafanatic]

condor said:

I applied direct to a company via a local newspaper advert and heard nothing from them, 2 weeks later it's now on the on-line recruitment websites so I've applied again via that route. Does anyone know if recruitment agencies pick up on the local newspaper ads and then try and sell the company the applicant? as opposed to the company approaching them and asking them to find someone.

When i did the job, then yes, you'd look through local ads and if there was a potential new client, then you'd ring them up with the usual "I have the ideal candidate..just sign here..blahblahblah"

But to be honest, if you knew the market well, you've probably already spoken to the company at some point or they are not the kind of company you specialise in etc.

Occasionally, firms don't do a good job of checking CVs etc, that's where agencies can help. They've tried their own recruitment, didn't work out for them, then they will give an agency a chance.

Edited by hondafanatic on Friday 19th March 09:45

[Chris_OCR]

A.Wang said:

Chris_OCR said:

A.Wang said:

Always go direct if you have the opportunity.

Recruitment consultants are s. Well, the vast majority of them them anyway...

fk off you cock.


See what I did there

I said vast majority Chris...present company excluded, of course.

I was only joking anyway Andy!

[VegasRain]

Recruitment Agents will not tell you who the employer is until they have submitted you and spoken to the contact because they won't risk you going direct. Once they've had a conversation and can prove via email trail that your name came from them, they'll tell you everything.

If you then apply directly, the employer will have to take you via the agency route or risk the T&C biting them on the ass. It's a lot easier for an agency to find out you've been 'backdoored' than you think, especially the experienced/clever agents.

That said, there is no harm in figuring out who the client is and after a reasonable time (couple of days) asking them if they've been given your details. If not, send it over and go for it.

Google the wording the agent uses either in their ad or on the phone usually leads you to the client because some lazy agents just copy and paste off the client website!!!

[maix27]

VegasRain said:

Recruitment Agents will not tell you who the employer is until they have submitted you and spoken to the contact because they won't risk you going direct. Once they've had a conversation and can prove via email trail that your name came from them, they'll tell you everything.

If you then apply directly, the employer will have to take you via the agency route or risk the T&C biting them on the ass. It's a lot easier for an agency to find out you've been 'backdoored' than you think, especially the experienced/clever agents.

That said, there is no harm in figuring out who the client is and after a reasonable time (couple of days) asking them if they've been given your details. If not, send it over and go for it.

Google the wording the agent uses either in their ad or on the phone usually leads you to the client because some lazy agents just copy and paste off the client website!!!

That's if you're a rubbish recruiter and you/your client have no trust for each other...

I always tell people who i'm working with straight up, because i'm usually the only recruiter working with my client and usually on a retained basis.

I always question a recruiter's relationship with their customer if they can't tell you who they are.

Admittedly, if someone phones me up out of the blue pressing hard on who the company is, then i know they're a recruiter. Had one yesterday actually.

Didn't tell me his name, was rude and 3 out of the 4 questions he asked me (even before asking my name) was on who the client was. Muppet.

[AJS-]

What maix said.

If you have sent your CV then it should be no problem to tell you who the client is. In fact I would demand to know who the client is before he sends the CV.

[mojjo1]

My scenario goes...

Applied for a team leader role last week, had a call from said agency wanting me to come in to register and to bring alone passport etc etc.. Bit miffed as at this point they hadn't forwarded my CV to the company.

On the morning I was due in to register I realised that another agency was recruiting a very similar job (submitted a cv), in fact it was almost word for word so told the original agency this and that I won't be able to come in and register as I have already applied with someone else and they don't require me to come in and register etc etc.

Had a call yesterday from the original agency saying i've an interview and no mention of rearranging this registration procedure.

Point being that you never know how they operate and why and what obligations they have..