Is recruitment agent bluffing

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alec1975

Original Poster:

60 posts

111 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Hi,

Went for an interview on x amount of hourly rate last week, on friday agent told me that it is a good news and offer will come through next week.

This morning had a call from an agent saying offer has come through and i asked him to negociate bit more get £5 an hour more. After an hour he came back saying client is offering £10 less than what was an intial offer, reason ? tight budget and later he said HR didn't know about per hour rates.

He asked me about my final day rate and i said i will accept the offer on x amount (£2 less than what was the inital offer).

This afternoon he said that client can't raise the day rate because i don't have skills in that and that area. So it is up to me whether i accept the offer (£10 less) or decline it.

Should i contact the client directly? I know they wont like it. What are my options? Offer is too low.

Allanv

3,540 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Others make say different but yes they are, I had an offer for say £350 per day and got the light for the job according to the agency then before it started they rang and said they could only offer say £275 so I told them to find someone else.

But everything is up to you, I do it my way and always have done. You situation will be different and only you can make the final call.

alec1975

Original Poster:

60 posts

111 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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What if i contact the client?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

158 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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the agent will be pissed off because it jeapordises their fee.

But to be honest they are buggering around with you, so I would have limited conscience on that one.

Whether or not the ultimate employer would be upset I don't know. It probably varies from individual to individual

Edited by Vocal Minority on Tuesday 24th May 08:24

Allanv

3,540 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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alec1975 said:
What if i contact the client?
As a friend was working at a place that was looking for contracts I approached him to pass my CV to the right guy bypassing the agent.

I got binned before anything was said, I have never done it since.

Your call again.

Tommo Two

217 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Allanv said:
As a friend was working at a place that was looking for contracts I approached him to pass my CV to the right guy bypassing the agent.

I got binned before anything was said, I have never done it since.

Your call again.
If i've got a contact that works at a company (friend / friend or a friends uncles mates son) I'll always get them to email the hiring manager my CV, or get the HM email and I'll email them myself.

I dislike using adgents its painful. 2 of my 5 contracts so far have been through adgents the other have been through contacts at the place of work.

Being within ear shot of HMs office, by the sound of things most of them find adgents anoying as well!

I would contact the hirer direct

0000

13,812 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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If you're not happy, decline it and ask for the client to be told why.

£10 a day doesn't seem like much, I'd expect the agent to quietly take that out of their own cut to get the placement if you won't bend... but as above, only you can make the call.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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You could always have some fun with it and request the agent to provide you with a break down of the % they take. biggrin

Personally, I don't have much time for clowns like this. If I was desperate for the money, I'd likely accept and carry on seeking out a new contract elsewhere.

TIGA84

5,286 posts

237 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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alec1975 said:
Hi,

Went for an interview on x amount of hourly rate last week, on friday agent told me that it is a good news and offer will come through next week.

This morning had a call from an agent saying offer has come through and i asked him to negociate bit more get £5 an hour more. After an hour he came back saying client is offering £10 less than what was an intial offer, reason ? tight budget and later he said HR didn't know about per hour rates.

He asked me about my final day rate and i said i will accept the offer on x amount (£2 less than what was the inital offer).

This afternoon he said that client can't raise the day rate because i don't have skills in that and that area. So it is up to me whether i accept the offer (£10 less) or decline it.

Should i contact the client directly? I know they wont like it. What are my options? Offer is too low.
You said the agent came back with an offer, you rejected it and asked for £5 more an hour, then the agent returned an hour later with £10 less than his original offer?

Am I reading that right?



Hoolio

1,173 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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alec1975 said:
Hi,

Went for an interview on x amount of hourly rate last week, on friday agent told me that it is a good news and offer will come through next week.

This morning had a call from an agent saying offer has come through and i asked him to negociate bit more get £5 an hour more. After an hour he came back saying client is offering £10 less than what was an intial offer, reason ? tight budget and later he said HR didn't know about per hour rates.

He asked me about my final day rate and i said i will accept the offer on x amount (£2 less than what was the inital offer).

This afternoon he said that client can't raise the day rate because i don't have skills in that and that area. So it is up to me whether i accept the offer (£10 less) or decline it.

Should i contact the client directly? I know they wont like it. What are my options? Offer is too low.
Perhaps you should have just accepted the offer at the rate you agreed to be put forward at?

The agent may or may not be trying to increase their margin, equally the client maybe trying to reduce the cost to them - either way, you'll never know for sure. If the offer is "too low" then reject it.

creampuff

6,511 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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if the pay negotiations start with going through the agent, then I'd keep them going through the agent.

Just find a different job.

Dr_Rick

1,635 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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0000 said:
If you're not happy, decline it and ask for the client to be told why.

£10 a day doesn't seem like much, I'd expect the agent to quietly take that out of their own cut to get the placement if you won't bend... but as above, only you can make the call.
Read the post; he said £10 per hour less not per day. Adds up...

0000

13,812 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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alec1975 said:
This afternoon he said that client can't raise the day rate because i don't have skills in that and that area. So it is up to me whether i accept the offer (£10 less) or decline it.
Is it £10 less on the day rate or hourly?

If it's ~£75 a day less tell them FO!

StuTheGrouch

5,810 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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alec1975 said:
Hi,

Went for an interview on x amount of hourly rate last week, on friday agent told me that it is a good news and offer will come through next week.

This morning had a call from an agent saying offer has come through and i asked him to negociate bit more get £5 an hour more. After an hour he came back saying client is offering £10 less than what was an intial offer, reason ? tight budget and later he said HR didn't know about per hour rates.

He asked me about my final day rate and i said i will accept the offer on x amount (£2 less than what was the inital offer).

This afternoon he said that client can't raise the day rate because i don't have skills in that and that area. So it is up to me whether i accept the offer (£10 less) or decline it.

Should i contact the client directly? I know they wont like it. What are my options? Offer is too low.
I would simply refuse that based on the cheek of it. When you say 'no', they will immediately offer you the original rate. I would say 'no' to that too

The jiffle king

7,048 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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The agent might look at taking some of it from their fee. I have had contractors do this successfully in the past

MOBB

3,803 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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This sounds like when you are selling a car and you get "innit" offers way lower than asking price.

I'd tell them where to go and feel happy that you didn't join a business that behaves that way

Foliage

3,861 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Just ignore the agents calls for a couple of days.

bad company

19,434 posts

272 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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DoubleTime said:
You could always have some fun with it and request the agent to provide you with a break down of the % they take. biggrin
The agent would probably tell you (nicely) to mind your own business. They are paid by the client firm and the agreed fees will have been agreed between them.