Starting first proper job tomorrow... any advice?
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Lads,
It's time for me to enter the real, non-student world! I start work tomorrow as a headhunter. I'm excited and of course a bit apprehensive. I thought it might be a good time to use some of the pistonhead real world experience! So, has anyone got any advice on how to conduct myself on my first day?
Cheers,
Michael
It's time for me to enter the real, non-student world! I start work tomorrow as a headhunter. I'm excited and of course a bit apprehensive. I thought it might be a good time to use some of the pistonhead real world experience! So, has anyone got any advice on how to conduct myself on my first day?
Cheers,
Michael
Emeye said:
My experience of recruitment consultants is 90% bad. Hopefully you can be one of the good eggs.
Unfortunately I rate most in the same league as estate agents and solicitors.
Occasionally I come across a good one though.
I've heard alot about this. The company I will be working for is new and reasonably small but already extremely well respected. It is also quite specialised in that the main focus is medical rather than say graduates.Unfortunately I rate most in the same league as estate agents and solicitors.
Occasionally I come across a good one though.
Edited by Emeye on Monday 29th August 15:55
VeeFour said:
No wonder the recruitment industry is so completely f
ked.
People who've never even had a job doing recruitment. The mind boggles.
It would be pretty difficult getting experience as a qualified medic with a PHD in multiple therapeutic areas. The reason i said headhunting rather than recruitment consultant is because the people i am placing are all on well over 100k a year. Do tell how i should get experience at that level.ked.People who've never even had a job doing recruitment. The mind boggles.
Simon Brooks said:
When you've been in the industry for 10+ years and actively recruited senior/director level then you will have earned the right to be a true headhunter until then be happy being a plain and simple recruitment agency consultant
Those are the people i will be recruiting, the medical desk is me and another chap. The people i am talking to are very high level medical officers from global pharma comapanies. I seem to have gone in at the deep end.VeeFour said:
This is going to be amusing.
I'm sure they've promised you the world, and you have a ridiculously large knotted tie at the ready.... But I can't see many £100k executives doing much business with a kid with no experience.
Has someoe had a bad day? You're being derogatory and aggressive in both threads i have going at the moment. If you don't have anything nice or useful to add i would rather avoid your negativity if thats alright. Ive just finished my first day at my first job and am obviously excited and daunted. Please dont come on here and put a downer on something you probably know little about.I'm sure they've promised you the world, and you have a ridiculously large knotted tie at the ready.... But I can't see many £100k executives doing much business with a kid with no experience.
CommanderJameson said:
I suspect you wouldn't know a decent senior level CV if it hopped onto your desk wearing its best Sunday pants whilst singing "I am the very model of a modern senior level CV" to the tune of the major-general's song from Pirates of Penzance.
That's an observation, not a criticism.
Still, have fun.
Very true... At the moment. Tommorow my training focuses on cv analysis and what makes an excellent cv etc.That's an observation, not a criticism.
Still, have fun.
VeeFour said:
I know a lot about recruitment.
Mostly that any kid who calls themselves a "headhunter" is full of st and is usually nothing more than a cold caller trying to sell jobs in the strength of details pulled from a database.
Thats what a lot of people, probably deservedly think. The company i work for is nothing at all like this, it is a specialist company with multiple contacts in the industry. It is not a canvasser who fills positions by cold calling.Mostly that any kid who calls themselves a "headhunter" is full of s
t and is usually nothing more than a cold caller trying to sell jobs in the strength of details pulled from a database.sider said:
How was your first day?
Any office hotties to distract you?
Haha, it was good thanks. A lot to take in, especially in terms of medical acronyms etc but i know i'll begin to grasp that soon. With regards to the hotties..not really as yet although most of the girls were out of the office today so will have to check again tomorrow!!Any office hotties to distract you?
okgo what is gak?
okgo said:
What about when a company needs to expand and fill vacancies?
Pretty naive to have your view.
Exactly, i was also sceptical but the amount of money on the table here is absolutely huge.Pretty naive to have your view.
A decent recruitment agency will shows candidates jobs they may not have known about and also do the same for clients. It really is quite big business nowadays but of course there are the standard, cold call type agencies. I'm glad i'm not working for one of those.
Edited by mikearwas on Wednesday 31st August 20:29
Fun Bus said:
My current role as a contractor and my previous 2 roles all came to me via..........Recruitment Consultants. None of the roles would have been found by me as they weren't advertised. I spoke to a recruitment consultant I'm friendly with today about my next contracting role so I think I could well be placed again by a recruitment consultant.
OP, good luck with the new role especially at the level you're recruiting at. My Sister's boyfriend recruits Senior managers and Directors (mostly £100k + roles) within IT and it took him years to get to the level he is at.
Thankyou very much, appreciate it. I'm not quite sure how i've managed to go in at this level apart from a pretty good education and degree. Regarding earnings... my basic is 21k but whilst I am junior I also get a cut of what the senior medical consultant makes. We basically work together on that front and coordinate heavily so we both have an impact in the deals and placements we make. He is incredibly good and at this level he is making serious, serious money. He placed a high level doctor recently and earnt the company well over 20k in one deal. So i would cautiously estimate my first year earnings at around 35k, more if i get good quickly. I feel quite lucky.OP, good luck with the new role especially at the level you're recruiting at. My Sister's boyfriend recruits Senior managers and Directors (mostly £100k + roles) within IT and it took him years to get to the level he is at.
Regarding the posting on PH, it was my lunch hour at the time so its no problem!
Strachan said:
Company make 20 times I would imagine
5%
Its actually quite a lot more than that but don't know exactly so wont say i do but its around 15%. He had another recently, from a short term contract placement that basically pocketed him about 5k. Apparently those contracts are the ones to have because if you a decent candidate and they do a good job they can be signed many times over.5%
The biggest deal i have seen on the board was more than 3 times that 20k figure but i just gave the most recent example. It's not a bad business and at this level (despite my reservations) it is by no means a 'monkey' job. Decent input is required throughout the process and it's little things that make the difference between an averagely successful consultant and a very successful one. As always the devil is in the detail.
Okgo is pretty much bang on with his estimation.
Edited by mikearwas on Wednesday 31st August 21:02
Edited by mikearwas on Wednesday 31st August 21:03
VeeFour said:
If I had a quid for every billy big balls graduate I've encountered with their flash rented lifestyles over the course of my career, I'd be a very rich man indeed. Most of them, of course, will grow up to realise what complete idiots they've been and look back with embarrassment.
I could have got the OP wrong, but his grand claims of being an executive head hunter and his other post about renting a flash car to get a jump speak volumes.
Oh, you're back again. I don't know about grand claims that is what i do. Admittedly i don't do much 'placing' at the moment but aid the guy who does, once i gain promotion this will change. Regarding my other thread, i didn't want to hire a flash car to get a jump. I thought of it as a nice thing to do, something that i and the girl in question might enjoy. I am not anywhere near as 'base' as you seem to think. Out of interest, not to start an arguement, but genuinelly interested, what is your line of work?I could have got the OP wrong, but his grand claims of being an executive head hunter and his other post about renting a flash car to get a jump speak volumes.
VeeFour said:
Oh, I'm far too unimportant to be talking about work with an "executive head hunter" in his hired "prestige car".
I really can't figure out why you're being like this. I'm sure if you met you would realise i'm just a genuinelly nice guy asking for some advice and discussing the exciting position of starting a new job with some guys that have the experience to give that advice. I haven't seen one nice, or even reasonable comment from you. It begs the question how miserable your life must have been to associate with others (on a likeminded forum!!) like you are.Fun Bus said:
I'm another to thank a recruitment consultant who, got me my first contracting role which saw me double the salary of my previous employed role. I'm discussing the next consultant/contractor role with her after the one I'm on.
Good stuff,if youve found a good one stay with her and use her above other agencies. She'll work harder on your behalf = more cash in your pocket. Happy days!Thanks Don, will do.
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