F10 M5 Review after 2 years
Discussion
Welshbeef said:
Joscal said:
Mine went straight to a closed bca auction for BMW dealers apparently. Will end up on a forecourt somewhere soon and will be a great buy for someone, i didn’t get round to taking the competition exhaust off so whoever gets it will have a nice surprise!
Here is a quandary for a potential new owner. Edited by Joscal on Saturday 17th March 13:37
Let’s say they buy it from the Main dealer and said main dealer had no idea if wasn’t a standard exhaust... nor does joe Bloggs. He insured it as a normal M5 but has an accident then somehow the insurance company pick up it’s not a standard exhaust.
In that situation he is uninsured who’s to blame? What recourse etc?
I do find it odd that you would look at the bottom end cheapest high mileage dealer cars and not consider a better car for the same price as a private sale.
I realise there are advantages to buying via a dealer, but you pay for it, particularly on trade in. Selling cars privately is not that difficult and I have probably saving a good £15k over the last two years by doing so versus trade ins.
Elysium said:
Welshbeef said:
Joscal said:
Mine went straight to a closed bca auction for BMW dealers apparently. Will end up on a forecourt somewhere soon and will be a great buy for someone, i didn’t get round to taking the competition exhaust off so whoever gets it will have a nice surprise!
Here is a quandary for a potential new owner. Edited by Joscal on Saturday 17th March 13:37
Let’s say they buy it from the Main dealer and said main dealer had no idea if wasn’t a standard exhaust... nor does joe Bloggs. He insured it as a normal M5 but has an accident then somehow the insurance company pick up it’s not a standard exhaust.
In that situation he is uninsured who’s to blame? What recourse etc?
I do find it odd that you would look at the bottom end cheapest high mileage dealer cars and not consider a better car for the same price as a private sale.
I realise there are advantages to buying via a dealer, but you pay for it, particularly on trade in. Selling cars privately is not that difficult and I have probably saving a good £15k over the last two years by doing so versus trade ins.
Sold with a £400 warranty with a claim limit of £1000.
A savvy buyer would have hoovered that one up and bought a separate warranty.
Elysium said:
Bad example. A non standard exhaust is pretty obvious. Most options for the M5 are visibly different and branded. Any main dealer is going to draw attention to it as it will help sell.
I do find it odd that you would look at the bottom end cheapest high mileage dealer cars and not consider a better car for the same price as a private sale.
I realise there are advantages to buying via a dealer, but you pay for it, particularly on trade in. Selling cars privately is not that difficult and I have probably saving a good £15k over the last two years by doing so versus trade ins.
Lots o posters have given the reasons why they do not on this theead. I do find it odd that you would look at the bottom end cheapest high mileage dealer cars and not consider a better car for the same price as a private sale.
I realise there are advantages to buying via a dealer, but you pay for it, particularly on trade in. Selling cars privately is not that difficult and I have probably saving a good £15k over the last two years by doing so versus trade ins.
1. trust
2. Legal recourse vs sold as seen
3. Part x availability as if not then it’s forcing you to sell your car privatly which you may not want to - and no seller privatly is willing to take a chance on a part x is he/she and try to turn a profit nein.
4. Dealer financing
5. Cooling off period
It’s also why thy sit unsold for a long time on autotrader and the like
How on earth these people ever move home I’ll never know. Do they only buy new build?
Afterall, all private home sellers are crooks. Hiding any subsidence in their property prior to viewings, Polyfilla and paint brush out before every viewing. Baking bread to hide the smell of damp. Rugs over the huge holes caused by extensive dry rot.
Afterall, all private home sellers are crooks. Hiding any subsidence in their property prior to viewings, Polyfilla and paint brush out before every viewing. Baking bread to hide the smell of damp. Rugs over the huge holes caused by extensive dry rot.
Andy M said:
How on earth these people ever move home I’ll never know. Do they only buy new build?
Afterall, all private home sellers are crooks. Hiding any subsidence in their property prior to viewings, Polyfilla and paint brush out before every viewing. Baking bread to hide the smell of damp. Rugs over the huge holes caused by extensive dry rot.
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of people buying cars with an equivalent to a convayencing?Afterall, all private home sellers are crooks. Hiding any subsidence in their property prior to viewings, Polyfilla and paint brush out before every viewing. Baking bread to hide the smell of damp. Rugs over the huge holes caused by extensive dry rot.
Also full surveys and you can get imdemnity policies
Buying used is sold as seen nothing more nothing less. With low value used cars people clearly accept the risk but £25-55k odd is not small beer and the sold as seen plus having to deal with no part x is a problem.
Welshbeef said:
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of people buying cars with an equivalent to a convayencing?
Also full surveys and you can get imdemnity policies
Buying used is sold as seen nothing more nothing less. With low value used cars people clearly accept the risk but £25-55k odd is not small beer and the sold as seen plus having to deal with no part x is a problem.
In what way does a conveyancer safeguard the buyer in regard to the structural integrity of a property? Or are we now also adding to the list of fraudulent activities all private car sellers undertake, doctored V5 forms?Also full surveys and you can get imdemnity policies
Buying used is sold as seen nothing more nothing less. With low value used cars people clearly accept the risk but £25-55k odd is not small beer and the sold as seen plus having to deal with no part x is a problem.
The UK Courts offer the buyer protection even when a vehicle is ‘sold as seen’. You do understand that, don’t you?
And with a car you can also get a full survey, and indemnity policies. The indemnity policy in this case is called a warranty.
Just jog my memory for me: a number of years ago (when I owned my 535D) there was a guy on the BMW PH forum who drove owners crazy with incessant inane questions about the 535D, and who took an eternity to buy a car (years iirc). Was that you?
Andy M said:
Just jog my memory for me: a number of years ago (when I owned my 535D) there was a guy on the BMW PH forum who drove owners crazy with incessant inane questions about the 535D, and who took an eternity to buy a car (years iirc). Was that you?
No need to answer Welshbeef, I’ve just learned the answer for myself.Andy M said:
In what way does a conveyancer safeguard the buyer in regard to the structural integrity of a property? Or are we now also adding to the list of fraudulent activities all private car sellers undertake, doctored V5 forms?
The UK Courts offer the buyer protection even when a vehicle is ‘sold as seen’. You do understand that, don’t you?
And with a car you can also get a full survey, and indemnity policies. The indemnity policy in this case is called a warranty.
Just jog my memory for me: a number of years ago (when I owned my 535D) there was a guy on the BMW PH forum who drove owners crazy with incessant inane questions about the 535D, and who took an eternity to buy a car (years iirc). Was that you?
Nope not me - I was going out to buy a f30 330d and purely by chance they had a F10 535d (not listed on the aux website as it had just arrived) I bought it that morning. The UK Courts offer the buyer protection even when a vehicle is ‘sold as seen’. You do understand that, don’t you?
And with a car you can also get a full survey, and indemnity policies. The indemnity policy in this case is called a warranty.
Just jog my memory for me: a number of years ago (when I owned my 535D) there was a guy on the BMW PH forum who drove owners crazy with incessant inane questions about the 535D, and who took an eternity to buy a car (years iirc). Was that you?
Let me try and help.
Gave my new (to me) Pure Metal Silver F10 LCI a once over with ONR today. And took a picture.
I'm not sure how many others there are in this colour, but there can't be many. It's an interesting silver in that it has the best property (doesn't really show the dirt), but if it's not clean it looks really flat and dull...
Gave my new (to me) Pure Metal Silver F10 LCI a once over with ONR today. And took a picture.
I'm not sure how many others there are in this colour, but there can't be many. It's an interesting silver in that it has the best property (doesn't really show the dirt), but if it's not clean it looks really flat and dull...
Robbidoo said:
Let me try and help.
Gave my new (to me) Pure Metal Silver F10 LCI a once over with ONR today. And took a picture.
I'm not sure how many others there are in this colour, but there can't be many. It's an interesting silver in that it has the best property (doesn't really show the dirt), but if it's not clean it looks really flat and dull...
And we are back on track. I love this colour. Gave my new (to me) Pure Metal Silver F10 LCI a once over with ONR today. And took a picture.
I'm not sure how many others there are in this colour, but there can't be many. It's an interesting silver in that it has the best property (doesn't really show the dirt), but if it's not clean it looks really flat and dull...
To add to the new/used debate a picture of my recently departed M5. As my local garage's demonstrator, had pretty much every box ticked except B&O, full leather and ceramics.
Also had just had new tyres and a full service and alignment and I know the garage I part exchanged with did no mechanical work prior to sale probably just painted the front an rear bumpers which had a few minor marks.
I briefly had it for sale privately but the difference between my asking price and their's was initially £5,500. Whilst I understand the issues about private vs trade - £5,500 is a big reserve fund for things that might go wrong. I only got one serious call about the car whilst it was for sale and it was the cheapest F10 M5 for sale anywhere at the time.
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