F10 M5 traction
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Andy M said:
I unintentionally had my standard M5 spinning its rear tyres in 6th gear last night while short-shifting onto a motorway access road. This was with traction control on.
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light Edited by Andy M on Tuesday 10th January 08:39
Edited by BigLion on Tuesday 10th January 23:42
BigLion said:
Andy M said:
I unintentionally had my standard M5 spinning its rear tyres in 6th gear last night while short-shifting onto a motorway access road. This was with traction control on.
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light While I don't think I've ever floored the car in 2nd and the bank end has not attempted to step out, the drive I referred to was in cold and damp conditions at night (with rock salt remnants still on the road).
BigLion said:
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light
I'd be getting your engine checked !! There is no way that if you simply floor the throttle in 2nd you will not see the traction light flashing ( unless it's off ) Edited by BigLion on Tuesday 10th January 23:42
ds666 said:
I'd be getting your engine checked !! There is no way that if you simply floor the throttle in 2nd you will not see the traction light flashing ( unless it's off )
ThatI see the TC light flash through to 4th on hard upshifts in the dry, in the wet i don't bother as it's permanently lit (just kidding as i turn the wick right down for the Winter season).
Even in the Summer i'd still get a squirm into 3rd but was never an issue as could stay on WOT through the gears.
ds666 said:
BigLion said:
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light
I'd be getting your engine checked !! There is no way that if you simply floor the throttle in 2nd you will not see the traction light flashing ( unless it's off ) Edited by BigLion on Tuesday 10th January 23:42
Honestly I cannot believe you guys are having issues on dry roads when temps are above 8 degrees - I'm loving the throttle to the floor moments !!!
I'm in the 'don't have too much issue with traction' camp! Of course one can over power the rears easily, but it's about feel for throttle application; my M5 is a highly rewarding driving machine which i predominantly use in MDM mode. The progressive way traction can be achieved (or not) is actually a significant part of the attraction of this genre of car!
BigLion said:
Andy M said:
I unintentionally had my standard M5 spinning its rear tyres in 6th gear last night while short-shifting onto a motorway access road. This was with traction control on.
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light Edited by Andy M on Tuesday 10th January 08:39
Edited by BigLion on Tuesday 10th January 23:42
beanoir said:
BigLion said:
Andy M said:
I unintentionally had my standard M5 spinning its rear tyres in 6th gear last night while short-shifting onto a motorway access road. This was with traction control on.
Honestly I'd get the geo / tyres checked - if you're near me you're welcome to come for a passenger ride to compare. I was tanking around on throttle to the floor on 2nd gear - on dry roads and temps at 9 degrees there was no traction control light Edited by Andy M on Tuesday 10th January 08:39
Edited by BigLion on Tuesday 10th January 23:42
Carpmart said:
I'm in the 'don't have too much issue with traction' camp! Of course one can over power the rears easily, but it's about feel for throttle application; my M5 is a highly rewarding driving machine which i predominantly use in MDM mode. The progressive way traction can be achieved (or not) is actually a significant part of the attraction of this genre of car!
Ditto. Yes the M5 doesn't have great traction but that goes for anything front engine/rear drive with 560 horses in the wet. Treat the accelerator like a switch and the dashboard does light up like a Christmas tree. It may be a generational thing? I learnt to drive in cars from the 80s and 90s and maybe subconsciously consider it a badge of shame to have the TC light up?The M5 has traction issues you could reasonably expect a rwd 550bhp+ car to have; particularly noticeable in less than bone-dry conditions.
When I was younger the 996 GT2 (aka 'The Widowmaker' for its speed and traction issues) was a dream car. As I'm sure is the case with most on PH, part of my attraction of such cars is whether you can tame them.
When I was younger the 996 GT2 (aka 'The Widowmaker' for its speed and traction issues) was a dream car. As I'm sure is the case with most on PH, part of my attraction of such cars is whether you can tame them.
BigLion said:
Engine is perfect - thanks
Honestly I cannot believe you guys are having issues on dry roads when temps are above 8 degrees - I'm loving the throttle to the floor moments !!!
I wouldn't say i'm having issues as i'm firmly in the 'car only rarely has caught me out' camp, but having tracked the car many times in great weather, i rarely have a scenario where the TC light doesn't flicker in 2nd & 3rd when pushing on. Doesn't happen every time, but in the lower gears i'll often see a flash, however this doesn't always mean i can physically feel that the car's lost traction. Worth noting mine's putting out close to 750bhp, so that could be the cause to inducing the flicker, but stating again i find the traction in mine even with the enhanced outputs to be very good-excellent.Honestly I cannot believe you guys are having issues on dry roads when temps are above 8 degrees - I'm loving the throttle to the floor moments !!!
W8PMC said:
BigLion said:
Engine is perfect - thanks
Honestly I cannot believe you guys are having issues on dry roads when temps are above 8 degrees - I'm loving the throttle to the floor moments !!!
I wouldn't say i'm having issues as i'm firmly in the 'car only rarely has caught me out' camp, but having tracked the car many times in great weather, i rarely have a scenario where the TC light doesn't flicker in 2nd & 3rd when pushing on. Doesn't happen every time, but in the lower gears i'll often see a flash, however this doesn't always mean i can physically feel that the car's lost traction. Worth noting mine's putting out close to 750bhp, so that could be the cause to inducing the flicker, but stating again i find the traction in mine even with the enhanced outputs to be very good-excellent.Honestly I cannot believe you guys are having issues on dry roads when temps are above 8 degrees - I'm loving the throttle to the floor moments !!!
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