Just Bought an E60 M5!!
Discussion
Having sold my heavily modified RS6 in January this year, i then replaced it with a 535D M-Sport which received the DMS treatment, however i was offered a very good price for my car (was not considering selling) & that's meant i've now ordered an E60 M5 for collection on the 12th May (busy until then). Spec as follows:
BMW E60 M5 in Interlagos Blue
May 2005 05 Reg with 8000 miles
Extras are:
Full Black Merino Leather
Extended Voice Control
Aluminium Cube Trim
BlueTooth Phone Preperation & Nokia Cradle
Extended Voice Control System
Hi-Fi Professional Logic 7
M-Multi Functional Seats (active back, lumbar & side bolster as also found in new RS4)
Side & Rear SunBlinds (Rear Electric)
TV Function (Freeview Digital & Analogue)
Through Load System Inc Ski Bag
Universal Remote Control
Looking forward to some silly motoring for a few months. Will be sorry to see the 535D go & will miss the 35MPG+ i've been getting, but at least i can now start attending VMAX's again.
BMW E60 M5 in Interlagos Blue
May 2005 05 Reg with 8000 miles
Extras are:
Full Black Merino Leather
Extended Voice Control
Aluminium Cube Trim
BlueTooth Phone Preperation & Nokia Cradle
Extended Voice Control System
Hi-Fi Professional Logic 7
M-Multi Functional Seats (active back, lumbar & side bolster as also found in new RS4)
Side & Rear SunBlinds (Rear Electric)
TV Function (Freeview Digital & Analogue)
Through Load System Inc Ski Bag
Universal Remote Control
Looking forward to some silly motoring for a few months. Will be sorry to see the 535D go & will miss the 35MPG+ i've been getting, but at least i can now start attending VMAX's again.
hunttheshunt said:
Good move, just taken delivery of my 6 month old E63 M6. Great car, looks are definately growing on me. The performance in M Power mode is verging on the scary...at least on public roads anyway.
M6's have dropped quite a way and are now less than M5 money. For that you get all the options included. I even got Full Leather which is a £5K option. So long as it doesn't continue to drop at the same rate I reckon I have a bit of a bargain (famous last words!!)
Enjoy it.
It's surprising you saying that, as the same dealer i've bought the M5 off had a loaded silver M6 in the showeroom with a screen price of £76K, however he reckoned i could drive that away for closer to £70K if i asked very nicely. I need the practical nature of a saloon & the M5 is a little more stealth than the M6 which i also like, however you're bang on about the money & savings right now. Got my fingers crossed that these new M's don't go into freefall.
dazren said:
Looking forward to some silly motoring for a few months. Will be sorry to see the 535D go & will miss the 35MPG+ i've been getting, but at least i can now start attending VMAX's again.
You certainly will.
Make sure you monitor the oil usage, and check out the measuring instructions over on www.m5board.com
DAZ
Cheers Daz, i'll be sure to keep an eye on it.
CU at the next VMAX!!
derestrictor said:
Congrats.
I'd be very interested to hear your views on the 535d: against the RS6 and the newbie.
My recent experiences increasingly convince me of a daily weapon which is more torqular than rev-reliant - how will the on-road delivery of a DMS'd 535d compare to that of the new M5?
Btw, how big is the boot on the E60? ()
Can comment on RS6 to DMS 535D M-Sport & that was a pleasant move/comparison. The RS6 was just costing too much, as i'd bitten the modifying bug & spent over £14K on the car & she was chewing through tyres, discs & pads at a crazy rate, so i wanted to get out of that scenario & save myself some pennies (that didn't last long). The 535D M-Sport is a far nicer drive than either a standard or modified RS6 & i can't rate the experience highly enough as they're truly a fabulous car, although you do notice the power difference but with a DMS re-map, the 535D will hit 60 in 5.5secs so less than a second slower than a standard RS6. I just hope the new M5 does not cost as much as the RS6 in consumables.
The boot in an E60 is easily as large as the RS6 & of course the interior appears so much more modern & plenty more toys.
I'll post my M5 experience once i've had her for a few days, as i don't collect her until next Friday.
hunttheshunt said:
So......anyone for a DMS remap, not bothered about the power increase but the de-limit could be useful......uh well maybe at VMAX.
Anyone had it done to their M6/M5???
Rob (co-owner of DMS) has an E60 M5 & this replaced their 535D M-Sport. The M5 has been re-mapped & they've also tinkered around with the rev limiters in each gear to refine the curve. It's a quick car as i raced it at the last but one VMAX in my very modified RS6.
No experience of the Alpina's however i think the above comments seem close to the mark. They're probably more accomplished crusiers than an M5 but not quite the raw sporting experience of an M5.
hunttheshunt said:
Well call me sad....but on my E63 I actually run about in auto mode quite a bit. So long as you dial up 3 or 4 it actually works surprisingly well as a full auto, at least as good as my X5.
From my very limited experience of the switchtronic on the Alpina's (and we are talking some while ago)it suffers from the same things as the BMW switchtronic box on my 4.8, e.g. either holds the gear too long, or.......in 6th within 500 yards. At least the SMG is adjustable. I think it works better and offers the best of both worlds.
I spoke to DMS the other week, might pop down for a look. They did my Disco...very pleased with the result on that.
Can you explain the "dial up 3 or 4"??
To satisfy my bank balance & retain my license, i don't fancy driving this M5 everywhere as though i've stolen it, i'd quite like to drive business trips of a few hundred miles in relative comfort & in a non hooligan stylie, so i'd welcome how to run the car in an Auto-esque manner with reduced power, thus saving a few quid in revenue juice.
hunttheshunt said:
Hi Paul,
When I put mine into auto mode it starts off at programme 1 (being it's least aggressive setting). If you use this mode you will find that it changes up rather too soon and (like the Alpina's) is in 6th before you have gone 500 yards. If you increase the setting to programme 3 or 4, this holds the gear a little longer and works like a sporty auto. I find that in this setting with EDC off, it makes for a very comfortable cruiser.
You then just need to prod the M button for full on attack mode when you feel in the mood.
Cheers.
EDC is Electronic Damping Control so switching this off leaves it in Comfort or Normal Mode?? Is the M-Button pre-programmed to transform the car by applying all the mental settings & therefore giving the car its maximum performance & handling capabilities??
i.e, just sat at the lights in a cruise style mode as per your advice & then some boy pulls up alongside & wants a piece of me, do i just press the M-Button a wave him goodbye? nothing more for me to do??
Julian64 said:
Out of interest mind telling us what a year old car has lost in depreciation.
I assume your buying from a BMW dealer and not privately.
Not sure if that question was aimed at me regarding the M5 or my learned collegue with the M6.
As for the M5, list as new price with all the options she's got fitted was just over £73K & i'm buying a 12mth old example with 8000 miles for just over £15K less than that.
hunttheshunt said:
Paul,
Yes with EDC in 'comfort' mode and the box in auto mode programme 3 or 4 it is a very accomplished cruiser. Assuming you have programmed your M button, pushing it at the lights will give you the works, full on manual, 507bhp and EDC set to rock hard....light fuse and retire!
Alternatively you could try launch mode if you really want to scare your opponent and yourself...but have yet to try this.
To answer the depreciation question, can only speak for M6, 6 months old and -£20K approx so mid £60's. Can't see it dropping a huge amount further in the next 6-12 months....but then what do I know!! Great value now in my opinion, but as above!!
Damn, all was looking good until you mentioned "programmed your M button". I was kinda hoping it was pre-set to nuclear mode & i'd not need to tinker. Guess it's all fairly straight forward how to programme the button?? Think i'm going to need to be talking with an expert when i take delivery to set her up correctly.
As for Launch Control, i've read mixed reports stating that trying to be trick with LC actually gives worse 0-60 times than just sticking the car in 1st & booting it. Read in Evo i think that they could only just crack 5 secs to 60 in both the M6 & M5 when using LC but managed 4.7ish without it. Probably looks good to onlookers but seems to affect the sprint times. I may not bother with LC.
It was purchased through a main dealer & was owned by Mike Halliwell (owner of the Halliwell Jones Group), hence why the car is so highly spec'd.
Does appear their are a few available for under £60K which is a fairly sudden situation. I personally can't see them dropping another £20K in the next 12 months (at least i bloody hope not). I'd say 2yr old examples will be around the £48K mark, but of course dependent on specification.
Does appear their are a few available for under £60K which is a fairly sudden situation. I personally can't see them dropping another £20K in the next 12 months (at least i bloody hope not). I'd say 2yr old examples will be around the £48K mark, but of course dependent on specification.
hunttheshunt said:
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Damn, all was looking good until you mentioned "programmed your M button". I was kinda hoping it was pre-set to nuclear mode & i'd not need to tinker. Guess it's all fairly straight forward how to programme the button?? Think i'm going to need to be talking with an expert when i take delivery to set her up correctly.
Mine was already set upbut if memory serves me correctly it is very straight forward to set up from iDrive anyway......unless of course you ARE related to the curly haired fat one (in which case I apologise as it is going to take you 1/2 an hour at least)
Not related (more's the pity) as i'm sure he'd be paying all cash for his M5.
I've got all next weekend to play (already cleared it with the wife) so i can set the car up at leisure. Just hope it reallt is straight forward & intuative. I'm hoping the manual is also good for instruction. I recall it took a few days to set my 535D up, but given most of the obvious stuff will be the same on the M5, that will save mucho time, it's just the specific M stuff that i'll no doubt get stuck on or get frustrated with.
xm5er said:
Congratulations, fabulous cars. I'd love to see Evo do a 4 way test of all the M5 generations.
Completely off topic question for W8, did you or do you have a client (or friend) in Heaton Moor? I've no idea what you do BTW but shortly before we moved there was an evil sounding RS6 used to visit my next door neighbour every month or so last year(if so you can check the M5 pic in my profile to see who it is).
Just curious as I'm sure the reg plate was similar, and I'm sure that exhaust note wasn't standard.
Not sure i've ever been to Heaton Moor. Used to drop in to see a friend in Wilmslow (on quite a big newish estate) a few times last year, but i don't think that's Heaton Moor.
Is that where Heaton Moor is??
Zod said:
Noted at the weekend that M6 seem to have a very small second hand premium over the M5, do people think this will further depress the M5 prices?
I agree. The cars are aimed at different buyers & oddly i think it's the M5 that's aimed more towards performance car drivers who want a touch of practicality than the M6. I do love the M6, but i needed that extra bit of practicality so the M5 won. I think the list prices will stay about £15K apart, but older than 12mths the cars will be aligned, making the M6 a better value used car purchase. I just don't think their is as stronger market for the M6.
xm5er said:
Congratulations, fabulous cars. I'd love to see Evo do a 4 way test of all the M5 generations.
Completely off topic question for W8, did you or do you have a client (or friend) in Heaton Moor? I've no idea what you do BTW but shortly before we moved there was an evil sounding RS6 used to visit my next door neighbour every month or so last year(if so you can check the M5 pic in my profile to see who it is).
Just curious as I'm sure the reg plate was similar, and I'm sure that exhaust note wasn't standard.
Not sure i've ever been to Heaton Moor. Used to drop in to see a friend in Wilmslow (on quite a big newish estate) a few times last year, but i don't think that's Heaton Moor.
Is that where Heaton Moor is??
No, dont worry mustn't have been you. Do all RS6s rumble?
Some rumble louder than others.
Mine had a full Milltek exhaust, including Sports-Cats & downpipes so it was pretty loud externally.
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