Why so high?

Author
Discussion

ratrod 2

1,058 posts

11 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:



375hp BB , 4 speed and only £9900,
Lovely hehe

Drives like a Trabant but who cares !! Lol

Edited by newsatten on Saturday 18th November 16:51


Isn't that the car that sold on Collecting Cars after the sale, remember it was very low mileage

was over around 18 months ago ,the seller a rich property developer listed around 8 of his cars at once, rods,yanks and super cars

including that lovely dark green 68/69 440 Charger and later listed a very special yellow 440 Charger.

From memory i think it sold for around thirty something and was advertised a week later for around £15 K or more profit and sold it within

a couple of days , Think we all agreed it was a cheap car being worth lots more in the States that for some reason we all overlooked.

Would go back through Collecting Cars sold list but can't be assed, but i'm sure that's the car,

Don't know where you got it from but it has to be a scam and not a very good one ,should have asked a lot more to make

it look realistic, (Got Gastroenteritis,not been out or eaten for a couple of days ,can you tell i'm bored out of my mind)rolleyes

aeropilot

34,919 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
ratrod 2 said:
newsatten said:



375hp BB , 4 speed and only £9900,
Lovely hehe

Drives like a Trabant but who cares !! Lol

Edited by newsatten on Saturday 18th November 16:51


Isn't that the car that sold on Collecting Cars after the sale, remember it was very low mileage

was over around 18 months ago ,the seller a rich property developer listed around 8 of his cars at once, rods,yanks and super cars

including that lovely dark green 68/69 440 Charger and later listed a very special yellow 440 Charger.

From memory i think it sold for around thirty something and was advertised a week later for around £15 K or more profit and sold it within

a couple of days , Think we all agreed it was a cheap car being worth lots more in the States that for some reason we all overlooked.

Would go back through Collecting Cars sold list but can't be assed, but i'm sure that's the car,
Aaah, now you mention it, I recognise the back drop to the photo.....from when that patina white '32 3w coupe that Greg now owns was advertised on CC, so was owned by the same guy. Probably longer ago than 18 months though, as Greg has owned that 3w for over 2 years now.....I reckon it was back during Covid in late 2020, or early 2021 when it all those cars were sold on CC.


aeropilot

34,919 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
Yep, was right, and was back in early 2021, and sold for £43.5k at the time.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-chevrolet...


SRT Hellcat

7,053 posts

219 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:



375hp BB , 4 speed and only £9900,
Lovely hehe

Drives like a Trabant but who cares !! Lol

Edited by newsatten on Saturday 18th November 16:51
That looks very cheap. Are you thinking about it ?
it has to be a scam at that price

Edited by SRT Hellcat on Saturday 18th November 19:31

newsatten

3,413 posts

116 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
SRT Hellcat said:
newsatten said:



375hp BB , 4 speed and only £9900,
Lovely hehe

Drives like a Trabant but who cares !! Lol

Edited by newsatten on Saturday 18th November 16:51
That looks very cheap. Are you thinking about it ?
it has to be a scam at that price

Haha , nah dont worry fellers im being my usual sarcastic self!

i think it more likely to be 99K !!! ffs.......................................................
still a great looking moody dark car, id love to own it

newsatten

3,413 posts

116 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
Same advertiser has this very nice machine at a rather low price of 17,500


i do find it hard to believe anyone would fall for these stupid stupid prices??? banghead

roscobbc

3,417 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
ratrod 2 said:
roscobbc said:
On the subject of Vettes with/without power steering......mine has power steering..... interestingly with 255/40 section rubber and a 12 inch diameter steering wheel it's almost as though it hasn't got PS assistance.... actually a perfect 'weighting' really!
With that width of tyre without power steering it would be almost impossible to drive at lower speed,

It's nice to leave some feel in the steering on a sports car , does it tramline with those wide tyres,

most of mine did on occasions ,always felt they were trying to kill me.

With smaller and tighter parking bays i'm glad that i rarely go anywhere near town in these old cars
Does it 'tramline' with the wide tyres?.......it certainly can - but tyre width is 255mm and the same as optional width of later C3's - however the 40 section of my 18" diameter front tyres (as compared with the 60 section of optional 255/60/15 tyre on later cars) puts more rubber on the ground and therefore perhaps more prone to tramlining.
I should do a total refurb/re-jig of the front end and its settings - photo below shows the effect of 'hitting' the gas pedal at around 30 mph.
With its 600 ft/lbs of torque, 3.08 rear end and 2.20 first gear at that speed there's zero wheelspin - the front 'rotates', the rear squats, digs in and launches perfectly.......its only when close to three figures and the front end settles that the rear end can become 'squirrely'.
More concerning though (and alluding to Jon's "trying to kill him scenario") is the sudden reversal of castor when stepping-off the gas when the front end is 'airbourne' and abruptly drops if you are forced to slow down suddenly.........


Oneball

858 posts

89 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
Mine doesn’t tramline and I’ve got 275 x 15 on the the front.

ratrod 2

1,058 posts

11 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
roscobbc said:
ratrod 2 said:
roscobbc said:
On the subject of Vettes with/without power steering......mine has power steering..... interestingly with 255/40 section rubber and a 12 inch diameter steering wheel it's almost as though it hasn't got PS assistance.... actually a perfect 'weighting' really!
With that width of tyre without power steering it would be almost impossible to drive at lower speed,

It's nice to leave some feel in the steering on a sports car , does it tramline with those wide tyres,

most of mine did on occasions ,always felt they were trying to kill me.

With smaller and tighter parking bays i'm glad that i rarely go anywhere near town in these old cars
Does it 'tramline' with the wide tyres?.......it certainly can - but tyre width is 255mm and the same as optional width of later C3's - however the 40 section of my 18" diameter front tyres (as compared with the 60 section of optional 255/60/15 tyre on later cars) puts more rubber on the ground and therefore perhaps more prone to tramlining.
I should do a total refurb/re-jig of the front end and its settings - photo below shows the effect of 'hitting' the gas pedal at around 30 mph.
With its 600 ft/lbs of torque, 3.08 rear end and 2.20 first gear at that speed there's zero wheelspin - the front 'rotates', the rear squats, digs in and launches perfectly.......its only when close to three figures and the front end settles that the rear end can become 'squirrely'.
More concerning though (and alluding to Jon's "trying to kill him scenario") is the sudden reversal of castor when stepping-off the gas when the front end is 'airbourne' and abruptly drops if you are forced to slow down suddenly.........

Is that Heathrow runway, it looks like it's just about to get airborne rosco ,

Great photo who ever took it ,

See what you mean about the front getting light , won't ask you what speed you were doing nono

roscobbc

3,417 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
ratrod 2 said:
roscobbc said:
ratrod 2 said:
roscobbc said:
On the subject of Vettes with/without power steering......mine has power steering..... interestingly with 255/40 section rubber and a 12 inch diameter steering wheel it's almost as though it hasn't got PS assistance.... actually a perfect 'weighting' really!
With that width of tyre without power steering it would be almost impossible to drive at lower speed,

It's nice to leave some feel in the steering on a sports car , does it tramline with those wide tyres,

most of mine did on occasions ,always felt they were trying to kill me.

With smaller and tighter parking bays i'm glad that i rarely go anywhere near town in these old cars
Does it 'tramline' with the wide tyres?.......it certainly can - but tyre width is 255mm and the same as optional width of later C3's - however the 40 section of my 18" diameter front tyres (as compared with the 60 section of optional 255/60/15 tyre on later cars) puts more rubber on the ground and therefore perhaps more prone to tramlining.
I should do a total refurb/re-jig of the front end and its settings - photo below shows the effect of 'hitting' the gas pedal at around 30 mph.
With its 600 ft/lbs of torque, 3.08 rear end and 2.20 first gear at that speed there's zero wheelspin - the front 'rotates', the rear squats, digs in and launches perfectly.......its only when close to three figures and the front end settles that the rear end can become 'squirrely'.
More concerning though (and alluding to Jon's "trying to kill him scenario") is the sudden reversal of castor when stepping-off the gas when the front end is 'airbourne' and abruptly drops if you are forced to slow down suddenly.........

Is that Heathrow runway, it looks like it's just about to get airborne rosco ,

Great photo who ever took it ,

See what you mean about the front getting light , won't ask you what speed you were doing nono
I was following a open top Vette with the camera man - and pulled out from behind at perhaps a little over 30 mph and simply 'nailed' it in first.....we were en route to CCCUK nats on the A1 North after waiting for others to catch up.

ratrod 2

1,058 posts

11 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
aeropilot said:
Yep, was right, and was back in early 2021, and sold for £43.5k at the time.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-chevrolet...
I was a little out on the price and time span, As i said it didn't sell on the day but a day or so after,

I must have got the price in the thirties from what the last bid was but i do remember it being re -advertised

very soon after being on Collecting Cars and it was a big difference to what was paid,someone was on the ball

that day ,Since the seller has listed other cars on CC after he listed all those cars ,There was a black 32 roadster as well as Gregs 3 window

but not sure if it was on the same week, remember the 2 Chargers green and yellow one,

According to greg he's got loads of cars and chops and changes them on a regular basis,

He's certainly got eclectic taste as it's hard to believe the mix of cars came from the same seller.

You must have a lot of patience finding the original details. thumbup

PS----- I forgot about the 6% commission so ye the price would have been in the 40's,


Edited by ratrod 2 on Saturday 18th November 22:15

roscobbc

3,417 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
Oneball said:
Mine doesn’t tramline and I’ve got 275 x 15 on the the front.
Less 'forgiving' nature and comparitive rigidity of low profiles vs higher profiles I guess. Mine rarely tramlined with 15" 60 series tyres.

aeropilot

34,919 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
quotequote all
roscobbc said:
Oneball said:
Mine doesn’t tramline and I’ve got 275 x 15 on the the front.
Less 'forgiving' nature and comparitive rigidity of low profiles vs higher profiles I guess. Mine rarely tramlined with 15" 60 series tyres.
Yep, rubber band tyres and old suspension design will tramline more...the suspension just isn't designed for 50 or less profile stiff sidewall tyres.

I remember back in the early 80's following what everyone else was doing with RS Escorts, and fitting 185/60 low profile tyres in place of 175/70 tyres, and boy did the RS tramline like a drunk pig with them fitted........
Once they were knackered, I went back to proper OEM 175/70 size and it was so much nicer to drive.



Edited by aeropilot on Saturday 18th November 22:37

newsatten

3,413 posts

116 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
This popped up on Facebook
What a fabulous looking machine

I could definitely live with this on the drive !cloud9

sidewinder500

1,191 posts

96 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
Those magnum 500 wheels really look ace on these big things.

aeropilot

34,919 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:
This popped up on Facebook
What a fabulous looking machine

I could definitely live with this on the drive !cloud9
Rare things too.

The Chevelle outsold the Torino by about 8 to 1, so not many around relatively speaking when new, let alone survived the next 50 years.

I'd still rather have a '63/64 Galaxie though smile


roscobbc

3,417 posts

244 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:
This popped up on Facebook
What a fabulous looking machine

I could definitely live with this on the drive !cloud9
Make mine 429 CJ power please. Love the shape!

Edited by roscobbc on Sunday 19th November 11:46

ratrod 2

1,058 posts

11 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:
This popped up on Facebook
What a fabulous looking machine

I could definitely live with this on the drive !cloud9
Like that a lot, those Magnams really bring out the dark colour,

Rarer and much cheaper than a Chevelle,

A forgotten underrated classic ,

There's a Ranchero version on "unusual car sales uk" face book ,looked good value at £12K

£10K may buy it ??

daveenty

2,359 posts

212 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
newsatten said:
This popped up on Facebook
What a fabulous looking machine

I could definitely live with this on the drive !cloud9
Lovely looking thing, the 1970 model is my favourite but possibly biased. smile

ratrod 2 said:
There's a Ranchero version on "unusual car sales uk" face book ,looked good value at £12K

£10K may buy it ??
I don't do Facebook so can't see that unfortunately? Is it also a '70 model? I know that there aren't many (if any) in the UK and it would be nice to see another.

I'm currently doing a bit of tidying up on my Ranchero over this rainy winter, mainly on the floors. Had to replace one full section at the rear of the drivers seat but I'll hopefully be getting away with small patches in the rest as it's not too bad.

ratrod 2

1,058 posts

11 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
quotequote all
daveenty said:
I don't do Facebook so can't see that unfortunately? Is it also a '70 model? I know that there aren't many (if any) in the UK and it would be nice to see another.

I'm currently doing a bit of tidying up on my Ranchero over this rainy winter, mainly on the floors. Had to replace one full section at the rear of the drivers seat but I'll hopefully be getting away with small patches in the rest as it's not too bad.
You may still might get on the "unusual car sales uk direct without going through face book, not sure,