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daveenty said:
I don't do Facebook so can't see that unfortunately? Is it also a '70 model? I know that there aren't many (if any) in the UK and it would be nice to see another.
I'm currently doing a bit of tidying up on my Ranchero over this rainy winter, mainly on the floors. Had to replace one full section at the rear of the drivers seat but I'll hopefully be getting away with small patches in the rest as it's not too bad.
Just had a quick look and it says it's a 71,I'm currently doing a bit of tidying up on my Ranchero over this rainy winter, mainly on the floors. Had to replace one full section at the rear of the drivers seat but I'll hopefully be getting away with small patches in the rest as it's not too bad.
ratrod 2 said:
Just had a quick look and it says it's a 71,
Thanks, just a few cosmetic differences then. Can't find that unusual car sales site apart from on Facebook though, having said that, I may not really want to as I can waste too many hours on sites like that. And way too much money. A good looking no nonsense cobra listed on C&C,
Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
It's right on my doorstep but never seen it around,
No white interior with piping to match the paintwork,not a cd player in sight ,
Looks period in silver and being lhd gives it more of a original look.
The seller has gone to a lot of trouble with his photo's as well.
Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
It's right on my doorstep but never seen it around,
No white interior with piping to match the paintwork,not a cd player in sight ,
Looks period in silver and being lhd gives it more of a original look.
The seller has gone to a lot of trouble with his photo's as well.
ratrod 2 said:
A good looking no nonsense cobra listed on C&C,
Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Nope, not American.Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Made in the Philippines, one of six made.
Was sold at Bonhams at the Revival back in 2017.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24122/lot/249/199...
It's a pretty poor representation of a Cobra imho.....but I suppose it depends on whether you are after something that vaguely looks like one, or is a close to a replica of the real thing...?
aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
A good looking no nonsense cobra listed on C&C,
Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Nope, not American.Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Made in the Philippines, one of six made.
Was sold at Bonhams at the Revival back in 2017.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24122/lot/249/199...
It's a pretty poor representation of a Cobra imho.....but I suppose it depends on whether you are after something that vaguely looks like one, or is a close to a replica of the real thing...?
the Tinseltown examples that are about these days , exhaust looks a little short and needs to be satin or matt black or
that matt white but otherwise i could live with it.
If i was to buy another Cobra i would get a few cars gone and go for a Superperformance ,there seems to be one
or two being imported lately plus there lhd which i would prefer, not a cheap option but no where neer the cost of a Tool-Room Cobra.
My dream car or at least one of them is the Superperformance MK1 GT40 thats on PH classified offered by Le Mans Coupes in Crawley ,
it's in the earlier Golf colour a dark blue and orange which i prefer to the overdone paler blue Golf colours ,there's nothing i would change on
it it's almost like it was built for me P.O.A so i suppose it will be out of my price range , but one day maybe
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
A good looking no nonsense cobra listed on C&C,
Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Nope, not American.Never heard of the make ,a Michel Motor Sport lhd so i assume maybe American.
Made in the Philippines, one of six made.
Was sold at Bonhams at the Revival back in 2017.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24122/lot/249/199...
It's a pretty poor representation of a Cobra imho.....but I suppose it depends on whether you are after something that vaguely looks like one, or is a close to a replica of the real thing...?
the Tinseltown examples that are about these days , exhaust looks a little short and needs to be satin or matt black or
that matt white but otherwise i could live with it.
If i was to buy another Cobra i would get a few cars gone and go for a Superperformance ,there seems to be one
or two being imported lately plus there lhd which i would prefer, not a cheap option but no where neer the cost of a Tool-Room Cobra.
My dream car or at least one of them is the Superperformance MK1 GT40 thats on PH classified offered by Le Mans Coupes in Crawley ,
it's in the earlier Golf colour a dark blue and orange which i prefer to the overdone paler blue Golf colours ,there's nothing i would change on
it it's almost like it was built for me P.O.A so i suppose it will be out of my price range , but one day maybe
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15632765
ratrod 2 said:
Unless your pockets are deep enough to afford a Tool-Room built car it looks good to me compared to some of
the Tinseltown examples that are about these days , exhaust looks a little short and needs to be satin or matt black or
that matt white but otherwise i could live with it.
If i was to buy another Cobra i would get a few cars gone and go for a Superperformance ,there seems to be one
or two being imported lately plus there lhd which i would prefer, not a cheap option but no where neer the cost of a Tool-Room Cobra.
If you sold the El Camino and the C2 Vette then you'd be in ball park for a decent Cobra......but outside of a Kirkham/Dave Brooks built car, none of the UK Cobra kit based cars (inclu Superformance) are dimensionally accurate copies of the real thing.the Tinseltown examples that are about these days , exhaust looks a little short and needs to be satin or matt black or
that matt white but otherwise i could live with it.
If i was to buy another Cobra i would get a few cars gone and go for a Superperformance ,there seems to be one
or two being imported lately plus there lhd which i would prefer, not a cheap option but no where neer the cost of a Tool-Room Cobra.
One that is has never been available in UK, which is ERA from the USA.
But there is currently a ERA 427 for sale in Belgium on C&C at the moment, and being a 1986 build, would fall outside of the DVLA pre-1988 rules, so in theory wouldn't have an issue being registered in the UK if imported from Belgium.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1650342
Its got a proper motor in it as well, although those stripes would need to go....I hate stripes on a Cobra, and the wheels would need refinishing to look like grubby Halibrands, but otherwise, ERA are the nearest thing to the real thing (or a new CSX from Shelby themselves etc) or a Dave Brooks built car.
There's a guy on the "Vingiggs" You Tube channel who owns 2 Superperformance GT40's MK1 and i think a MK2 plus
a factory GT40 ,he also owns a Superperforrmance Le Mans Cobra coupe and a roadster,
In one of his video's he does mention that he use to own a Superperformance Grand Sport Corvette as well but sold it,
Sort of thing i would do if my numbers came up ,buy one of each as i couldn't make my mind up which one or 2 i preferred.
then wonder over to Barrett Jackson for the rest of my dream garage , I know dream on
This guy use to own Lamborghini's but now much prefers his classics and he drives them ,seems a nice down to earth guy who's done good.
a factory GT40 ,he also owns a Superperforrmance Le Mans Cobra coupe and a roadster,
In one of his video's he does mention that he use to own a Superperformance Grand Sport Corvette as well but sold it,
Sort of thing i would do if my numbers came up ,buy one of each as i couldn't make my mind up which one or 2 i preferred.
then wonder over to Barrett Jackson for the rest of my dream garage , I know dream on
This guy use to own Lamborghini's but now much prefers his classics and he drives them ,seems a nice down to earth guy who's done good.
aeropilot said:
If you sold the El Camino and the C2 Vette then you'd be in ball park for a decent Cobra......but outside of a Kirkham/Dave Brooks built car, none of the UK Cobra kit based cars (inclu Superformance) are dimensionally accurate copies of the real thing.
One that is has never been available in UK, which is ERA from the USA.
But there is currently a ERA 427 for sale in Belgium on C&C at the moment, and being a 1986 build, would fall outside of the DVLA pre-1988 rules, so in theory wouldn't have an issue being registered in the UK if imported from Belgium.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1650342
Its got a proper motor in it as well, although those stripes would need to go....I hate stripes on a Cobra, and the wheels would need refinishing to look like grubby Halibrands, but otherwise, ERA are the nearest thing to the real thing (or a new CSX from Shelby themselves etc) or a Dave Brooks built car.
Yes that is lovely ,nothing not to like ,a lovely colour if a bit overdone,One that is has never been available in UK, which is ERA from the USA.
But there is currently a ERA 427 for sale in Belgium on C&C at the moment, and being a 1986 build, would fall outside of the DVLA pre-1988 rules, so in theory wouldn't have an issue being registered in the UK if imported from Belgium.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1650342
Its got a proper motor in it as well, although those stripes would need to go....I hate stripes on a Cobra, and the wheels would need refinishing to look like grubby Halibrands, but otherwise, ERA are the nearest thing to the real thing (or a new CSX from Shelby themselves etc) or a Dave Brooks built car.
Shame you don't hear much about ERA ,they don't get the credit they deserve by the looks of it,
Had a good clear out over a couple of years after Covid and managed to sell 9 cars but seem to got back to my old habits
and gained 1 or 2 more , Really 2 quality cars condition and quality wise would be plenty ,at least they would get used more regularly .
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
If you sold the El Camino and the C2 Vette then you'd be in ball park for a decent Cobra......but outside of a Kirkham/Dave Brooks built car, none of the UK Cobra kit based cars (inclu Superformance) are dimensionally accurate copies of the real thing.
One that is has never been available in UK, which is ERA from the USA.
But there is currently a ERA 427 for sale in Belgium on C&C at the moment, and being a 1986 build, would fall outside of the DVLA pre-1988 rules, so in theory wouldn't have an issue being registered in the UK if imported from Belgium.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1650342
Its got a proper motor in it as well, although those stripes would need to go....I hate stripes on a Cobra, and the wheels would need refinishing to look like grubby Halibrands, but otherwise, ERA are the nearest thing to the real thing (or a new CSX from Shelby themselves etc) or a Dave Brooks built car.
Shame you don't hear much about ERA ,they don't get the credit they deserve by the looks of it,One that is has never been available in UK, which is ERA from the USA.
But there is currently a ERA 427 for sale in Belgium on C&C at the moment, and being a 1986 build, would fall outside of the DVLA pre-1988 rules, so in theory wouldn't have an issue being registered in the UK if imported from Belgium.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1650342
Its got a proper motor in it as well, although those stripes would need to go....I hate stripes on a Cobra, and the wheels would need refinishing to look like grubby Halibrands, but otherwise, ERA are the nearest thing to the real thing (or a new CSX from Shelby themselves etc) or a Dave Brooks built car.
They even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
newsatten said:
Seeing this reminded me when i use to do the Chelsea cruise in my £ 2,500 Could 111 ,baring in mind it was late 70's/80'si was surrounded by yanks and British stuff mostly fitted with Wolfies and Thrush side pipes,
I'd just bought a brand new set of Wolfies for my 70 Mustang convertible and seriously was thinking about fitting some
to the Cloud if it was possible along with the Thrush side pipes and even jack the rear end up as was the fashion then ,
Sounds a really stupid thing to do but everything was reversible but like a lot of my bright ideas i never got round to it.
After being blew away after seeing the custom painted Ray Mumfords Holkham Hall Rolls Mulliner Parkward (Corniche) convertible at the Earls Court
Custom car show and along with John lennons custom Phantom in my head i always wanted a custom painted Roller,
Not sure why i think it was a cross between i thought it looked cool and a finger to the establishment,
Luckily before a ruined a perfectly good Rolls i got wind of Ray Mumfords Temple Island Shadow that was coming up for sale by the director
of Badger Air Bushes who commissioned Ray to do the work, I was scared to leave it anywhere just incase the artwork got damaged and
the Chelsea cruise was dying a death around that time so didn't get to use it much ,Frank Dale had it on display in their Fulham show room
for a year or so which sorted my storage problem out.
aeropilot said:
Indeed, shame they didn't decide to export to UK back in the early days of the Cobra rep market in the 1980's as they were by far the best kit around in terms of actually looking like a Cobra.
They even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
That looks just about perfect ,reminds me of my first Cobra , a Ram in Jaguar BRG same shade as on the racing D Types almost blackThey even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
Factory built for the Earls Court Motor Show with a very special 350 racing engine built in the States, had to go when i got divorced
but bought it back some years later as it stayed local.,
P5BNij said:
I hate it when traders put POA.It won't be cheap I suspect.
427 Ford Motorsport small block and 8 stack Borla injection will make it move quite well
Isn't this the Tornado GT40 that appeared in a mag or online article in the recent past?
Its quite a good replica of the scheme on Gulf VP Grady Davis own GT40 P/1049, which was the 'original' Gulf GT40 and the only one to wear Gulf's corporate colours, which the later powder blue/orange scheme cars owned and raced by the Gulf Team were technically the corporate colours of Willshire Oil Company, which Gulf had just bought out, but Grady Davis, Gulf's VP wanted to use instead as they stood out better.
Edited by aeropilot on Monday 20th November 09:02
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
Indeed, shame they didn't decide to export to UK back in the early days of the Cobra rep market in the 1980's as they were by far the best kit around in terms of actually looking like a Cobra.
They even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
That looks just about perfect ,reminds me of my first Cobra , a Ram in Jaguar BRG same shade as on the racing D Types almost blackThey even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
Factory built for the Earls Court Motor Show with a very special 350 racing engine built in the States, had to go when i got divorced
but bought it back some years later as it stayed local.,
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
I hate it when traders put POA.It won't be cheap I suspect.
427 Ford Motorsport small block and 8 stack Borla injection will make it move quite well
Isn't this the Tornado GT40 that appeared in a mag or online article in the recent past?
Its quite a good replica of the scheme on Gulf VP Grady Davis own GT40 P/1049, which was the 'original' Gulf GT40 and the only one to wear Gulf's corporate colours, which the later powder blue/orange scheme cars owned and raced by the Gulf Team were technically the corporate colours of Willshire Oil Company, which Gulf had just bought out, but Grady Davis, Gulf's VP wanted to use instead as they stood out better.
Edited by aeropilot on Monday 20th November 09:02
not sure if it was a Tornado ,think it sold for around £40K ,
The people selling this 427 car has another one for sale priced at £189,950 with the same mileage
fitted with a Roush 347 with Borla 8 stack injection in the later Golf colours .
Once you get into that price bracket you might as well pay the extra and have the one you want
rather than keep looking over your shoulders with regret .
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
I hate it when traders put POA.It won't be cheap I suspect.
427 Ford Motorsport small block and 8 stack Borla injection will make it move quite well
Isn't this the Tornado GT40 that appeared in a mag or online article in the recent past?
Its quite a good replica of the scheme on Gulf VP Grady Davis own GT40 P/1049, which was the 'original' Gulf GT40 and the only one to wear Gulf's corporate colours, which the later powder blue/orange scheme cars owned and raced by the Gulf Team were technically the corporate colours of Willshire Oil Company, which Gulf had just bought out, but Grady Davis, Gulf's VP wanted to use instead as they stood out better.
Edited by aeropilot on Monday 20th November 09:02
fitted with a Roush 347 with Borla 8 stack injection in the later Golf colours .
Once you get into that price bracket you might as well pay the extra and have the one you want
rather than keep looking over your shoulders with regret .
roscobbc said:
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
Indeed, shame they didn't decide to export to UK back in the early days of the Cobra rep market in the 1980's as they were by far the best kit around in terms of actually looking like a Cobra.
They even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
That looks just about perfect ,reminds me of my first Cobra , a Ram in Jaguar BRG same shade as on the racing D Types almost blackThey even offer the street Cobra 427 look which no other replica maker has done, rather the semi-comp look that everyone else goes for, which of course very few Cobra's actually were back in period.
This believe it or not, is not an original street 427 Cobra, this is an ERA car (chassis #488) but you'd have to be a full on Cobra expert/nerd to tell this wasn't a real one from a photo or even looking at without poking around its oily bits in detail.
Factory built for the Earls Court Motor Show with a very special 350 racing engine built in the States, had to go when i got divorced
but bought it back some years later as it stayed local.,
Every one said that about me fitting a Red Top into the 7 but having a X Flow,K series and BDA's i didn't find it much different.
Never had a Dax ,I had another Ram and a AK ,they were pretty good but not as good as my first one,
Unfortunately after getting into financial problems again i had to sell it this time way up country never to be seen again,
Funny thing is the local guy i sold it to the first time is my girlfriends dad now deceased and she keeps reminding me of that car
as it's the only car her dad had that she really liked which doesn't help.
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