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rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Couldn't resist this, The quintessential Muscle Car.............................................................................
Had dog dished caps on steels on my 71 Road Runner which made a nice change from alloy 's,
This is the shape i would have liked ,more square sleeper look, Make mine Sublime or Orange please.

Edited by rat rod on Friday 25th September 18:46

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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SRT Hellcat said:
Yes it was a good day. First off I heat cycled a set of Dunlop M's as it was not worth wearing them out on the day.
We then put on a set of lightly used Toyo's that we had knowing that they won't work very well with the camber on the front.
But the engine ran well and felt strong.
Stuff that needs looking at.
It was running hotter than I would like. It could be the Mustang Corral we fitted, or the new radiator mesh possibly reducing airflow.
The diff is weeping from the pinion seal and I have a feeling the pinion bearing might be playing up again although the diff has just been rebuilt and has done nothing since. Rather annoying. But I do seem to have the knack of paying for everything twice to get the job done correctly.
Only teething problems then,
Funny when you complain that the part that has been repaired or renewed is never their fault and is always something else on the car that has caused the problem and want to charge you again.

I think they are so use to bluffing their way around suits who never get their hands dirty and just say yes get on with it as they don't have a glue.

The main thing is you had a great day and kept it on the black stuff..

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
I've always thought the Formula bonnet looks more aggressive than the T/A one but still like the shaker on the T/A as well .

Funny enough i had a similar experience with a 7.5 Cadillac engined Firebird fitted with a fibreglass Formula bonnet,
I'd stopped outside my garages and as got back into the Firebird and just as it exploded into life i had this woman trying to shout at me though a closed window and over the exhaust rumble.

I didn't need to lip read to see she was a little upset so winding down the window and shutting the engine off she said ,i've caught you at last,she then went on to tell me that every time i drove past her house her windows would vibrate and she had to get up and hold her ornaments in place to stop them falling off her shelves.

Apparently by the time she got to the window i was always out of site but having stopped just up the road ,this time gave her the chance to catch me.
I did say to her that if you not seen me how was you so sure it was me and stressed that there was plenty of other noisy cars around especially with remaps on these modern performance hatchbacks but she was convinced it was me and to be fair it probably was so rather than fall out i promised to behave myself when passing her house in future.

That reminds me of the super rare '66 Galaxie 7 Litre coupe I had some 45 years ago. With black widened steel wheels, 'chopped' suspension, extra large diameter exhaust system with the original Thrush mufflers and rumpity rumpity cam in the 428 lump. It was my idea of a street going Nascar racer. Before we were married 'Er Indoors lived in 1st flat in Leytonstone, East London. Street was lined with typical Victorian terraced houses. She, and the family downstairs (and neighbours) always 'felt' me coming well before physically hearing and seeing me.Window would be ratling in the frames, ornaments vibrating around on shelves etc. Was pulled by plod for this, complaining about the noise and resonation - truth was is wasn't actually that noisy - just the resonation that vibrated through you. Remember back then relatively new Poncho TA's (and specifically a Romford based Super Duty) with the same 'issue'.
Won't ask you what you sold it for,I doubt you want to be reminded.
Seen a couple of 63/64 big block Galaxie's but never a 66,as you say ,super rare.Wonder where she is now.

Looks like we've come full circle as after years of fitting alloy wheels, fashions seem to have gone back to wide steel wheels ,
Back in the day we had no choice.

With a cammy big block,lowered,wide steels and loud exhaust she sounds a beast.
The big block has a presents that other V8's can't match ,Only a tuned and stroked small block comes close but still doesn't resonate though the ground even when stationery.
Helps if you have like minded neighbours but unfortunately they seem to be a minority with more shaking heads and dirty looks than thumbs up.


newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Nice to see the correct exhaust tips,

Wow ,the detail in the chassis is incredible , wish i could turn my hand and produce that kind of result.
If the rest of your Challenger is as good i would have thought the value should be equal or close to a T/A
or certainly one that needs slight work not a restoration .

Not many early T/A's go on the market but you don't see many Challengers as good as yours for sale either ,apart from average cars at inflated prices with sellers trying their luck.

Nice having a neighbour with a DB9 ,at least he's not going to complain but i bet it doesn't sound anywhere as brutal as the Challenger.

My son use to have a You Tube channel and we were filming the 32 3 window on open headers and a 64 Galaxie i had at the time,we picked a quiet residential road that was quite wide but after 3 or 4 takes a guy came out of his gate so we assumed that he was going to complain so before he had chance to say anything we stopped and drove away.

A few weeks later i drove past the same house and his garage was open and there inside was a Can Am race car,saw it again when he was loading it up on a trailer, looked a serious bit of kit ,
I should have stopped just to be nosy to see exactly what it was, then it dawned on me that this guy had probably come out that day to have a look at the cars and a chat not to give us a bking.

Talking about the price on that T/bird yesterday compared to Mustangs ,a 67 Mustang fastback was put on "Car and Classic yesterday for £70k ,condition probably the equal to the T/Bird but £30k more ,that kind of puts it in prospective.

.P.S did you see the white Challenger being auctioned off tomorrow at Historic's,looks similar to the white one on E Bay.





Yes it was posted on the MMA, think its a 440-6 , plus its a S code car, and a 70' it will be interesting to see how it goes,
The other white car is on Ebay , very few details, another Kowalski clone, £39000,
Now the Elan's out the picture i'l just carry on looking for a suitable project to keep on the drive, with the 40 year rule, id happily consider a late TA now, but open really to pretty much anything, ive a rubbish budget so its going to be fun laugh
Ive toyed with an Add for the Challenger, the trouble is say i managed to return 30K, (i value it at 25) ive still got to find another
20 plus grand to have half a chance at a early TA, plus i'l have work to do.
Its just not worth all the hassle,

My car just drives to well, so for me a second slightly rough car would probably would be the ideal option, quite like the idea of a Bandit again!

roscobbc

3,436 posts

244 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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rat rod said:
roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
I've always thought the Formula bonnet looks more aggressive than the T/A one but still like the shaker on the T/A as well .

Funny enough i had a similar experience with a 7.5 Cadillac engined Firebird fitted with a fibreglass Formula bonnet,
I'd stopped outside my garages and as got back into the Firebird and just as it exploded into life i had this woman trying to shout at me though a closed window and over the exhaust rumble.

I didn't need to lip read to see she was a little upset so winding down the window and shutting the engine off she said ,i've caught you at last,she then went on to tell me that every time i drove past her house her windows would vibrate and she had to get up and hold her ornaments in place to stop them falling off her shelves.

Apparently by the time she got to the window i was always out of site but having stopped just up the road ,this time gave her the chance to catch me.
I did say to her that if you not seen me how was you so sure it was me and stressed that there was plenty of other noisy cars around especially with remaps on these modern performance hatchbacks but she was convinced it was me and to be fair it probably was so rather than fall out i promised to behave myself when passing her house in future.

That reminds me of the super rare '66 Galaxie 7 Litre coupe I had some 45 years ago. With black widened steel wheels, 'chopped' suspension, extra large diameter exhaust system with the original Thrush mufflers and rumpity rumpity cam in the 428 lump. It was my idea of a street going Nascar racer. Before we were married 'Er Indoors lived in 1st flat in Leytonstone, East London. Street was lined with typical Victorian terraced houses. She, and the family downstairs (and neighbours) always 'felt' me coming well before physically hearing and seeing me.Window would be ratling in the frames, ornaments vibrating around on shelves etc. Was pulled by plod for this, complaining about the noise and resonation - truth was is wasn't actually that noisy - just the resonation that vibrated through you. Remember back then relatively new Poncho TA's (and specifically a Romford based Super Duty) with the same 'issue'.
Won't ask you what you sold it for,I doubt you want to be reminded.
Seen a couple of 63/64 big block Galaxie's but never a 66,as you say ,super rare.Wonder where she is now.

Looks like we've come full circle as after years of fitting alloy wheels, fashions seem to have gone back to wide steel wheels ,
Back in the day we had no choice.

With a cammy big block,lowered,wide steels and loud exhaust she sounds a beast.
The big block has a presents that other V8's can't match ,Only a tuned and stroked small block comes close but still doesn't resonate though the ground even when stationery.
Helps if you have like minded neighbours but unfortunately they seem to be a minority with more shaking heads and dirty looks than thumbs up.

Unfortunately I had to sell the Galaxie to help fund a house move - despite my warnings not to over rev the car, 10 days later new owner threw a rod and wrecked the block and eventually installed a 352, ripped out the XL based interior - the car was scrapped a few year later. This is what one should look like

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
I've always thought the Formula bonnet looks more aggressive than the T/A one but still like the shaker on the T/A as well .

Funny enough i had a similar experience with a 7.5 Cadillac engined Firebird fitted with a fibreglass Formula bonnet,
I'd stopped outside my garages and as got back into the Firebird and just as it exploded into life i had this woman trying to shout at me though a closed window and over the exhaust rumble.

I didn't need to lip read to see she was a little upset so winding down the window and shutting the engine off she said ,i've caught you at last,she then went on to tell me that every time i drove past her house her windows would vibrate and she had to get up and hold her ornaments in place to stop them falling off her shelves.

Apparently by the time she got to the window i was always out of site but having stopped just up the road ,this time gave her the chance to catch me.
I did say to her that if you not seen me how was you so sure it was me and stressed that there was plenty of other noisy cars around especially with remaps on these modern performance hatchbacks but she was convinced it was me and to be fair it probably was so rather than fall out i promised to behave myself when passing her house in future.

That reminds me of the super rare '66 Galaxie 7 Litre coupe I had some 45 years ago. With black widened steel wheels, 'chopped' suspension, extra large diameter exhaust system with the original Thrush mufflers and rumpity rumpity cam in the 428 lump. It was my idea of a street going Nascar racer. Before we were married 'Er Indoors lived in 1st flat in Leytonstone, East London. Street was lined with typical Victorian terraced houses. She, and the family downstairs (and neighbours) always 'felt' me coming well before physically hearing and seeing me.Window would be ratling in the frames, ornaments vibrating around on shelves etc. Was pulled by plod for this, complaining about the noise and resonation - truth was is wasn't actually that noisy - just the resonation that vibrated through you. Remember back then relatively new Poncho TA's (and specifically a Romford based Super Duty) with the same 'issue'.
Won't ask you what you sold it for,I doubt you want to be reminded.
Seen a couple of 63/64 big block Galaxie's but never a 66,as you say ,super rare.Wonder where she is now.

Looks like we've come full circle as after years of fitting alloy wheels, fashions seem to have gone back to wide steel wheels ,
Back in the day we had no choice.

With a cammy big block,lowered,wide steels and loud exhaust she sounds a beast.
The big block has a presents that other V8's can't match ,Only a tuned and stroked small block comes close but still doesn't resonate though the ground even when stationery.
Helps if you have like minded neighbours but unfortunately they seem to be a minority with more shaking heads and dirty looks than thumbs up.

Unfortunately I had to sell the Galaxie to help fund a house move - despite my warnings not to over rev the car, 10 days later new owner threw a rod and wrecked the block and eventually installed a 352, ripped out the XL based interior - the car was scrapped a few year later. This is what one should look like
That was a shame,took the heart out of the car,mind you it wouldn't have been easy finding a 7 litre engine back then.

Had a couple of 63/64 Galaxie's ,just love those rear after burner lights,
Also had a couple of 66's ,one convertible and a pillarless 4 door which i noticed had just been sold by ACA Auctions recently.
Love the stacked headlights ,reminds me of the American spec gangster big Merc's 6.3's .

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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newsatten said:
rat rod said:
Nice to see the correct exhaust tips,

Wow ,the detail in the chassis is incredible , wish i could turn my hand and produce that kind of result.
If the rest of your Challenger is as good i would have thought the value should be equal or close to a T/A
or certainly one that needs slight work not a restoration .

Not many early T/A's go on the market but you don't see many Challengers as good as yours for sale either ,apart from average cars at inflated prices with sellers trying their luck.

Nice having a neighbour with a DB9 ,at least he's not going to complain but i bet it doesn't sound anywhere as brutal as the Challenger.

My son use to have a You Tube channel and we were filming the 32 3 window on open headers and a 64 Galaxie i had at the time,we picked a quiet residential road that was quite wide but after 3 or 4 takes a guy came out of his gate so we assumed that he was going to complain so before he had chance to say anything we stopped and drove away.

A few weeks later i drove past the same house and his garage was open and there inside was a Can Am race car,saw it again when he was loading it up on a trailer, looked a serious bit of kit ,
I should have stopped just to be nosy to see exactly what it was, then it dawned on me that this guy had probably come out that day to have a look at the cars and a chat not to give us a bking.

Talking about the price on that T/bird yesterday compared to Mustangs ,a 67 Mustang fastback was put on "Car and Classic yesterday for £70k ,condition probably the equal to the T/Bird but £30k more ,that kind of puts it in prospective.

.P.S did you see the white Challenger being auctioned off tomorrow at Historic's,looks similar to the white one on E Bay.





Yes it was posted on the MMA, think its a 440-6 , plus its a S code car, and a 70' it will be interesting to see how it goes,
The other white car is on Ebay , very few details, another Kowalski clone, £39000,
Now the Elan's out the picture i'l just carry on looking for a suitable project to keep on the drive, with the 40 year rule, id happily consider a late TA now, but open really to pretty much anything, ive a rubbish budget so its going to be fun laugh
Ive toyed with an Add for the Challenger, the trouble is say i managed to return 30K, (i value it at 25) ive still got to find another
20 plus grand to have half a chance at a early TA, plus i'l have work to do.
Its just not worth all the hassle,

My car just drives to well, so for me a second slightly rough car would probably would be the ideal option, quite like the idea of a Bandit again!
After seeing the detail you have put into the chassis and components ,if you don't mind me saying, that you might be undervaluing your Challenger ,I know asking and getting are two different things but don't think you could replace your car of that quality for £25/£30k.

Sorry just my 2 penny worth.There is a Dodge Dart on E Bay for around £11k ,the same car is on "Car and Classic" .looks greeny gold with a white roof,you've probably seen it.

A Bandit would be a good alternative for you knowing your love for T/A's, at least you know your way round them,

Only now they seem to get the recognition they deserve,always underrated when cheap and considered your first time yank.
Infact i think they drove and handled better than most Mustangs and Mopars.


I had 3 ,one 79 T/A ex drag car ,no interior just passenger seat , no headlining and full cage with m.o.t and taxed in bright orange covered in period American stickers ,The other 2 where bandit's, one extreme to the other , An 80 with the 5 .0 engine,brand new ,less than 500 miles but to nice to use or devalue by putting any mileage on.

Sold that as didn't enjoy it as i was use to 10 yard cars which where more fun, 3rd one being a 77 ,black interior which i prefered to the goldy/beige they usually had and wait for it, a 350 Chevy lump, really nice car but not perfect ,had a lot of fun with that one but not one for the purists..

The guy i sold that one too was nervous about parting with his TR6 which he p/ex against it as it was his first yank but had no choice as didn't have enough money to buy it outright.
Got a call from him when he got home to say thank you for selling him the car and that he felt like a film star all the way home being filmed with telephone camera's on the motorway and people asking him if he would mind if they had their photo taken by his car ,baring in mind this was his first petrol stop and was still getting the hang of it being his first l.h.d car which must have felt like a aircraft carrier compared to the TR 6.

He was overwhelmed with the positive attention he was getting,
He said the only attention he would get in the TR6 is old men in tweed jackets would shuffle up and reminisce about the TR 2 they use to own.

Great feeling when you get a call like that.

Edited by rat rod on Saturday 26th September 01:22

newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Great story with the TR6
Had a similar experience when I sold a
450 Chim to a guy from Munich,
He flew in , got a train , I picked him up from the station, had the most scary of road tests , never driven right hand drive or over here!
Bought the car and drove it home !
When he rang me a few days later
He couldn't thank me enough,
It's was a magical experience and loved every minute,
He's still got it 7 years on , fabulous car .

And yes your probably right regarding my estimate of my cars value, but I'm a realist, and keeping things sensible !

newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Well it would seem my caution on values was correct!
the V code 6Pac Challenger made 38K now given this is pretty much top condition,and just one below a Hemi car, so im contradicting my earlier post and this goes to show that these cars are hugely over valued , and as such a early TA cant possibly be worth £60K
40 would be expensive.
Just seen a Maserati Merak make well over 50K Italian yes , super car , dont think so, but still worth tons more the Dodge, which is where it always was, wealthy people brought exotica , Italian etc, Yanks are Mass Produced, generally thrown together, thick ear engineering, everything a super car isn't , and we brought them as they were a lot of bang for the money......................... and speaking personally i could'nt afford exotica
then and deffo not now laugh

Having said all that it wouldn't surprise me if the 6-Pac was brought by a dealer and will appear for sale soon priced at £75K ..lol
Great work if you can get it laugh

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Well it would seem my caution on values was correct!
the V code 6Pac Challenger made 38K now given this is pretty much top condition,and just one below a Hemi car, so im contradicting my earlier post and this goes to show that these cars are hugely over valued , and as such a early TA cant possibly be worth £60K
40 would be expensive.
Just seen a Maserati Merak make well over 50K Italian yes , super car , dont think so, but still worth tons more the Dodge, which is where it always was, wealthy people brought exotica , Italian etc, Yanks are Mass Produced, generally thrown together, thick ear engineering, everything a super car isn't , and we brought them as they were a lot of bang for the money......................... and speaking personally i could'nt afford exotica
then and deffo not now laugh

Having said all that it wouldn't surprise me if the 6-Pac was brought by a dealer and will appear for sale soon priced at £75K ..lol
Great work if you can get it laugh
Fancy a challenge ! "Car and Classic" ref C1270346

newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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I'll have a look 👍

newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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rofl

Good Grief fancy having that pile on the drive!
That gives a whole new meaning to the term ( Rag Top! )laugh

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Sunday 27th September 2020
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rofl

Good Grief fancy having that pile on the drive!
That gives a whole new meaning to the term ( Rag Top! )laugh
Thought you like it,right up your street, a good mop and polished and ready for a top down summer motoring.

Looked though Historic's results ,they sold a lot of cars considering ,The Challenger looked mint in the photo,£42,560 with commission,don't think it was over the top ,as you said one down from a Hemi and a positive bargain compared to the Mach 1 for £57,680,

Here we go again ,no way can a rare 6 pack 440 in that condition be worth less than a Mach 1,not even a 428 or Boss, let alone £15k+ more, Yes it looked a lovely car and the colour although not original did suit it but it's just another Mach 1,there's plenty out there compared to a 6 pack 440 Challenger.

I bet the guy who bought it has never herd of "Vanishing Point" but has watched "Bullitt" ,"Gone in 60 seconds" and "John Wicks " a million times, Another one for the G.R,R,C car park.

The Merak sold for £62,260 adding the dreaded buyers commission, Compared to a 308 and Jalpa they are rubbish,never owned one but was going to buy one from Portman's who took it in p/ex against a Lambo, what a piece of junk, not a quick car not helped by a manifold blow and those Citroen brakes and steering were weird,no feel at all. not cheap enough to take a flyer on it so i passed.

I think your average classic car buyer would rather come to a private house and talk to the seller ,drive and inspect the car in a relaxed manner rather than having the pressure of the auction, ok for dealers or very wealthy buyers who can afford to make a mistake,

You can't drive the car until you pay for it and by then it's to late,read the small print and you haven't got a leg to stand on, I'm talking from personal experience now, with the excitement auction fever kicks in and before you know it you've your standing there like noddy and paid well over and you haven't even driven it yet
and then there's the buyer's commission and vat on top of it.

That's why i think your car will sell for good money as a private owner and builder to a person who would be out of their depth at a auction and ,
would feel safer buying your car rather than a 6 pack in a auction for really not much more money.

Trying to work out the 450 Chim ,being R.H.D i assume that's a Chlmaera , I associate you with yanks so sorry i'm a bit slow there.
Apparently the Germans like the idea of a British classic to be R.H.D in the same way we like our yanks L.H.D.
Both my C/D types replica's were R.H.D's and all the enquires were from Germany and French.
I've had a few really mad mad Caterham 7's and most of them went to France and Japan,they can't get enough of them .

YES it's makes a nice change when someone thanks you for selling them a car rather than moaning about a side light went out on the way home.


Edited by rat rod on Sunday 27th September 02:28

newsatten

3,420 posts

116 months

Sunday 27th September 2020
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Ahh yes , forgot about the charges on top!
Never even been to a classic auction lol
So rather green obviously ??
I didn't look for the Mach1 I'm assuming it's a big block , shaker and drag PAC sort of car ??

When you sit down and workout what the white Challenger must have cost to build the seller must have done his brains!
Ok Pro Touring isn't ever ones thing
but if it makes the car more useful useable fun etc , from what Duncan watts was saying it's pretty quick too.
All top spec stuff got to be 50K on top of the purchase price ,if the body and paint are included.
Selling by auction i guess has pro's and con's, you oblivious have a lot of experience when dealing with these sort of cars, and being able to go properly over a car, run and actually drive it , is hard to put a price on,

And thank you for the kind words regarding my Challenger, most appreciated!
From whats been said think the owner of the white Challenger gets move pleasure restoring than actually using his cars, and i completely get that, i feel out on a limb now as ive nothing really to do, hate just sitting around, lifes to sort to waste time, been off work since last Wednesday afternoon done sod all!
Hence why i need a drive way motor!

And yes it was a TVR , had a moment a few years back had 3 , the last being a
Late mk 3 450 , with full leather etc and air con, lot of fun for ones cash



Edited by newsatten on Sunday 27th September 11:28

SRT Hellcat

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219 months

Sunday 27th September 2020
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I do like a TVR. Here is mine



rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Sunday 27th September 2020
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SRT Hellcat said:
I do like a TVR. Here is mine


Had 3 TVR's didn't really do a lot for me, think i might have changed my mind ,
obviously had the wrong ones ,
Have i seen this TVR somewhere before,
Goodwood track day, MM maybe ?

Edited by rat rod on Sunday 27th September 23:16

rat rod

4,997 posts

67 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Ahh yes , forgot about the charges on top!
Never even been to a classic auction lol
So rather green obviously ??
I didn't look for the Mach1 I'm assuming it's a big block , shaker and drag PAC sort of car ??

When you sit down and workout what the white Challenger must have cost to build the seller must have done his brains!
Ok Pro Touring isn't ever ones thing
but if it makes the car more useful useable fun etc , from what Duncan watts was saying it's pretty quick too.
All top spec stuff got to be 50K on top of the purchase price ,if the body and paint are included.
Selling by auction i guess has pro's and con's, you oblivious have a lot of experience when dealing with these sort of cars, and being able to go properly over a car, run and actually drive it , is hard to put a price on,

And thank you for the kind words regarding my Challenger, most appreciated!
From whats been said think the owner of the white Challenger gets move pleasure restoring than actually using his cars, and i completely get that, i feel out on a limb now as ive nothing really to do, hate just sitting around, lifes to sort to waste time, been off work since last Wednesday afternoon done sod all!
Hence why i need a drive way motor!

And yes it was a TVR , had a moment a few years back had 3 , the last being a
Late mk 3 450 , with full leather etc and air con, lot of fun for ones cash



Edited by newsatten on Sunday 27th September 11:28
Most people do forget the charges especially the bidders! With the excitement of the moment it's difficult to work out the commission,vat all added to to the price you are bidding ,all this in few seconds,hesitate and you have lost it, 3 more bids is really is 6 because the other bidder has bid 3 times more.
In seconds you've gone way over your top figure which is ok if it's a rare car or turns out to be a good driver but most of the time there not,
One more bid that should buy it but that's what the other guys thinking , If you are the highest bidder you think I've paid more than anyone in the room thinks it's worth or watch the buyer drive off in it and wish you put one more bid in, can't win really.

There's often a reason why it's in the auction in the first place.
If you haven't been to a auction that's probably a good thing.

I got my fingers burnt buying at auction, still living with the problem and if i have a result i will still be blowing thousands.
Partly a chain of events and me not doing my job properly.
Annoying thing is the under bidder came up to me and said he regretted not going on, little does he know he dodged a bullet.

Viewing a car in the sellers driveway with no pressure from someone behind you trying to buy it,time to think,give it a good drive and talk to the seller , all those things go out the window at the auction.

The write up on the Mach1 is confusing, just says it's got a 6,995 cc engine but all the enhancements of a Mach 1 and mentions Sports roof so not sure what it is.
If you get 5 mins have a read on there site, it's under results.
This makes the Challenger even more of a bargain,reading what you said about the amount of work that's gone into it and just wondering what you would have to pay in the states for that car,They love and understand their own cars more than we do here and would value that car way more than a Mach1, Sports roof what ever it is.

Just read the spec ,what a car even has rack and pinion steering which for me is what lets most Mopars down with their over light vague steering .to me being a Pro street is an advantage as long as they don't mess about with the bodywork and keep to a period colour
,I'm not a purest ,would rather stop,not overheat and get around the corners without falling off and like this one let someone else have the expense ,time and sweat,

Unlike you i would enjoy just jumping into it and driving and maybe do minor personal improvements, where you enjoy the building process and driving something you can be proud of.

Had a pro street 64 El Camino ,drove it every day ,went on long trips, though London traffic in the summer ,Downside , it was to easy to drive sometimes and almost got boring ,kind of lost it's old car feeling ,less of a challenge to drive.
Built by a California Hot Rod shop for promotional purposes and to use as a shop truck so well put together.

Funny i've had 3 TVR's as well, a Chimaera 4.0 took in p/ex on a Hot Rod of all things,a Griffith 4.0 also took in p/ex, wasn't that old at the time,got it underwritten by local main dealer, thought i'd drive it over the weekend before i deliver it to them but got cold feet after a couple of things fell off so delivered it on the same day just in case they changed their minds, the 3rd being a 280 v6, the guy boasting he had left 3/4 of a tank of petrol in it,always nice to get a free ride home,run out of petrol on the M3 when showing half full,Should have known.

Didn't do a lot for me to be honest don't know why should have worked with a V8's in them, also had 2 Marcos's ,one wooden and the other a 4.0 convertible, total junk , .

I expect you have already seen the Demon on E bay tonight,sensible money at the moment, that might stop you getting bored, odd stance looks like it's trying to drive itself into the ground,
There's also a mean looking Charger with the Hemi but £95k , could have 2 of those 440 6 pack Challengers for that.











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SRT Hellcat said:
I do like a TVR. Here is mine


Lovely , and looks a beast with that very trick power plant, you sir are a very fortunate guy!
enjoy.............................................

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Many thanks. 900kg with 460bhp on Dunlop Crossplies makes it an interesting challenge being such a short wheel base car.

"Have i seen this TVR somewhere before,
Goodwood track day, MM maybe ?"

No. The restoration was only completed in May of last year. It has done a couple of test days and SPA in June of last year where I won both races in the Classic K. Very pleased for a first time out. This year like for most people has been a complete disaster. Have not even been out in the TVR. Let us hope next year is a far better year for everyone.

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Rat rod, yeah 95K and its got a Hemi 4 Speed whatever one of those is !
Think one would be a tad disappointed to find it has'nt actually got a Hemi 8 Barrel motorlaugh

Seems everyone's trying there luck with prices to match !
And yes saw the Dodge, think i prefer the Pontiac Parisienne lol

Yeah TVR's are a bit Marmite , but do offer fab driving performance at affordable levels, a mate has a Speed Six late Tuscan, its a tad flimsy
but its scary quick, but his light weight Cerbra is superbike quick, the quickest car ive ever had a ride in, the car i sold to the guy from Munich
was Andy's too, i brought it from him , as he'd run out of garage space!

Im going to look for a ratty mid 70's Trans Am, its got to live outside so cosmetic condition is not really important, dont mind some corrosion as long as its not terminal laugh
as ive said my budget anit great but i could borrow a few quid if necessary lol...................................

Done anything regarding your TA???