Why so high?

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

Just to make us all a little sick about current 'classic' prices I've been thinking about the prices I once paid for vehicles that are now significantly more pricey than back then. 1969 - 2 owner 50K mile Mk 9 Jag £35. A whole mix of cars priced between £8 and £35, including Mk 1, 2, 3 Zephyrs, Zodiac's & Consuls, plus Minx's and other 'nothing' cars. Roll on early/mid/late 70's and 2 owner 1965 Daimler V8 (expensive then at £375) 1968 (and only 5 years old) Rambler Javelin £385. 1965 4 door Galaxie £325, '66 Galaxie 7 Litre coupe (428 and 4 speed) 400. Very early 80's and 100% stock saturday night special '71 Mustang 429 SCJ £2000. Those were the days........the prices asked were affordable 'for the day' - Italian exotica like Iso's (unless something odd like Lele's) were not really affordable unless basket cases.

Like the sound of that 66 Galaxie manual 7 litre and the 429SCJ for £2k, perhaps it's worth giving him a call ,he may still have it.

Remember bombing through the New Forest in a MK9 when i was 18,

Bought my first sports car when i was 19, MG A for £150, graduated to a big Healey for £225,
followed by a taxed and tested E Type for £480 , Aston Martin DB4 with a suspect clutch for £750,turned out to be a slave cylinder.
Not one but two DB 6's both for under £5k ,could go on and on .

Paid £21k for my first house and my weekly wage was £35 if i worked a Saterday puts it all in perspective though..

No mobiles, computers and woman actually noticed i was there.

Edited by rat rod on Sunday 29th November 17:59

Galaxie long, long gone - sold it to fund a house move - phone call from new owner 10 days later - had put a 'rod' through the side of the block.......(told him to keep things below 5000 rpm!) - Kept track over the years of the SCJ, recently gone back over to the 'States for full resto - 'bread-vans' more appreciated and valued there than here........

[rat rod]

newsatten said:

Spot on, loved em both, Terry Thomas must have been the inspiration for Dick Dastardly
And as for Phillips he'd be in 50 shades! he could get the pants off anything lol...................... what a geezer

National treasures , bless em...................................................

Dick Dastardly reminds me of the part Terry Thomas played with Eric Sykes in" Monte Carlo or Bust" can't remember the character's name now .

Came across a BBC Newsreel You Tube by accident about Terry Thomas , being a fan i clicked on it and to be honest wished i hadn't

It was a camera crew in a housing association flat in south west London with Terry Thomas's wife nursing him through Parkinson's
and living on charity. They said he was threatened with eviction in his previous London home as he couldn't pay the rent.

I was in a state of shock when i saw him ,he looked almost unrecognisable ,it really upset me how that could happen.

They shouldn't have been allowed to film it and i'm sure this wouldn't happen today.

So very sad . Just goes to show how life can bite you in the ass no matter who you are.

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

Galaxie long, long gone - sold it to fund a house move - phone call from new owner 10 days later - had put a 'rod' through the side of the block.......(told him to keep things below 5000 rpm!) - Kept track over the years of the SCJ, recently gone back over to the 'States for full resto - 'bread-vans' more appreciated and valued there than here........

Ye i remember now,you posted it with photo's in a past post.

The latest generation of yank buyers know no different from today's prices and probably wonder what the hell we are always

banging on about the prices years ago before they were even born in many cases.

Before it became cool to drive a yank there was such a small minority driving these cars, in fact you couldn't

give them away hence all the low prices like you posted today.

Only people like yourself, Newsatten and a few on here can remember what a great time we were all having driving

these dinosaurs of the road for next to nothing outlay before the best kept secret got out. ,

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

Galaxie long, long gone - sold it to fund a house move - phone call from new owner 10 days later - had put a 'rod' through the side of the block.......(told him to keep things below 5000 rpm!) - Kept track over the years of the SCJ, recently gone back over to the 'States for full resto - 'bread-vans' more appreciated and valued there than here........

Ye i remember now,you posted it with photo's in a past post.

The latest generation of yank buyers know no different from today's prices and probably wonder what the hell we are always

banging on about the prices years ago before they were even born in many cases.

Before it became cool to drive a yank there was such a small minority driving these cars, in fact you couldn't

give them away hence all the low prices like you posted today.

Only people like yourself, Newsatten and a few on here can remember what a great time we were all having driving

these dinosaurs of the road for next to nothing outlay before the best kept secret got out. ,

The Mark 9 was something else - I was also 18 and on about £3 apprentice wage. Fuel was perhaps something like 5/6p a gallon (27p in today micky mouse money) - even though I only lived about 3 1/2 miles from work it always seemed to be about 2 gallons to do the daily trip. The Jag had a fantastic interior being an ex company chauffeur driven car - all walnut, red leather and lambskin rear over-carpets. The blue ultra-violet dash lighting at night-time was reminicent of the latest thing back then in night clubs (showed-up all your dandruff and white teeth). Made a bad mistake one evening out with the lads - filled-up r/h fuel tank prior to next days planned trip to Santa Pod. Decided to fill-up l/h tank too (had never used it previously) - and watched 7 or 8 gallons of 4 star pour out on to the garage forecourt from a 'holed' petrol tank.........fuel consumption around town was about 7 or 8 mpg. On steady run about 16 mpg (much about the same as my current Vette)

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

The Mark 9 was something else - I was also 18 and on about £3 apprentice wage. Fuel was perhaps something like 5/6p a gallon (27p in today micky mouse money) - even though I only lived about 3 1/2 miles from work it always seemed to be about 2 gallons to do the daily trip. The Jag had a fantastic interior being an ex company chauffeur driven car - all walnut, red leather and lambskin rear over-carpets. The blue ultra-violet dash lighting at night-time was reminicent of the latest thing back then in night clubs (showed-up all your dandruff and white teeth). Made a bad mistake one evening out with the lads - filled-up r/h fuel tank prior to next days planned trip to Santa Pod. Decided to fill-up l/h tank too (had never used it previously) - and watched 7 or 8 gallons of 4 star pour out on to the garage forecourt from a 'holed' petrol tank.........fuel consumption around town was about 7 or 8 mpg. On steady run about 16 mpg (much about the same as my current Vette)

Sorry didn't realise at first the list was your cars , That MK 9 was cheap at £35 even back then.

Needed reminding about the ultra-violet dash lights , from memory i think i had them on a MK 7 as well ,

Made me laugh about the night club lights showing up your dandruff ,forgotten about that.

Had a look for your C3 on C.C.C UK but couldn't find it, did you managed to sell it or have a change or heart.

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

The Mark 9 was something else - I was also 18 and on about £3 apprentice wage. Fuel was perhaps something like 5/6p a gallon (27p in today micky mouse money) - even though I only lived about 3 1/2 miles from work it always seemed to be about 2 gallons to do the daily trip. The Jag had a fantastic interior being an ex company chauffeur driven car - all walnut, red leather and lambskin rear over-carpets. The blue ultra-violet dash lighting at night-time was reminicent of the latest thing back then in night clubs (showed-up all your dandruff and white teeth). Made a bad mistake one evening out with the lads - filled-up r/h fuel tank prior to next days planned trip to Santa Pod. Decided to fill-up l/h tank too (had never used it previously) - and watched 7 or 8 gallons of 4 star pour out on to the garage forecourt from a 'holed' petrol tank.........fuel consumption around town was about 7 or 8 mpg. On steady run about 16 mpg (much about the same as my current Vette)

Sorry didn't realise at first the list was your cars , That MK 9 was cheap at £35 even back then.

Needed reminding about the ultra-violet dash lights , from memory i think i had them on a MK 7 as well ,

Made me laugh about the night club lights showing up your dandruff ,forgotten about that.

Had a look for your C3 on C.C.C UK but couldn't find it, did you managed to sell it or have a change or heart.

Thinking back on the Mark 9 - I really took an uninformed punt on it. Was owned by the father of a friend of the girl I was going out with at the time. Hadn't heard it running, nothing......paid my £35 - turned up with a can of petrol - can of water and a battery. No mot or tax on it. Filled up the rad with water - started it and the exhaust system promptly disintegrated and fell off. So open manifolds. Next thing was a coupel of core plug 'popped' - so no water. I'm committed - can't go back - no briefing - no exhaust - no cooling. Home was fortunately two miles or so away.......much more to tell about running on a budget if any interest.
Yes - took the C3 off-sale - not enough interest and I kept getting swaps offered and got fed-up with the typical hassle of non-serious buyers and wouldn't have had the patience for EBay or some of the other 'for sale' sites. Real issue really is that chrome bumper C3's are grossly undervalued currently as compared with C2's (which are fundamentally the same car wearing 'different clothes', yet typically double the price or more). How wrong is a market that pays £25K and more for a 'cooking' small block Mustang coupe yet ignores even super clean mid/late 70's C3 Vettes?. Right now in this current world I'm expecting redundancy any day and don't really want to lash out £££'s on a daily driver. The Vette actually if I use it in a 'controlled' way, weather permitting it could oddly be surprising cheap to use (despite low teens urban mpg and Super Unleaded) - i.e Classic insurance (less than £200). MOT exempt. No RFL tax to pay. ULEZ exempt (not that I'm likely to use in the Zone) - and the final touch - ultimate respect our there on the road from other drivers, pedestrians, bikers etc etc.

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

Thinking back on the Mark 9 - I really took an uninformed punt on it. Was owned by the father of a friend of the girl I was going out with at the time. Hadn't heard it running, nothing......paid my £35 - turned up with a can of petrol - can of water and a battery. No mot or tax on it. Filled up the rad with water - started it and the exhaust system promptly disintegrated and fell off. So open manifolds. Next thing was a coupel of core plug 'popped' - so no water. I'm committed - can't go back - no briefing - no exhaust - no cooling. Home was fortunately two miles or so away.......much more to tell about running on a budget if any interest.
Yes - took the C3 off-sale - not enough interest and I kept getting swaps offered and got fed-up with the typical hassle of non-serious buyers and wouldn't have had the patience for EBay or some of the other 'for sale' sites. Real issue really is that chrome bumper C3's are grossly undervalued currently as compared with C2's (which are fundamentally the same car wearing 'different clothes', yet typically double the price or more). How wrong is a market that pays £25K and more for a 'cooking' small block Mustang coupe yet ignores even super clean mid/late 70's C3 Vettes?. Right now in this current world I'm expecting redundancy any day and don't really want to lash out £££'s on a daily driver. The Vette actually if I use it in a 'controlled' way, weather permitting it could oddly be surprising cheap to use (despite low teens urban mpg and Super Unleaded) - i.e Classic insurance (less than £200). MOT exempt. No RFL tax to pay. ULEZ exempt (not that I'm likely to use in the Zone) - and the final touch - ultimate respect our there on the road from other drivers, pedestrians, bikers etc etc.

When you take away the cost of normal car insurance ,road tax and mot's to pay for plus even if your capable of working on the car yourself
sometimes you still have to get a main dealer involved if a computer problem and apart from cheap classic insurance all you got to do is pour petrol down the Vettes throat, Wouldn't work for everyone,suppose would depend on your type of commute .

The respect as you say and interest in these classic cars especially yanks is a really good feel factor when out driving, forget about the world on your shoulders for that period of time. big smiles,thumbs up and waves are all part of it and can make a simple petrol stop quite lengthy but having eclectic taste, when i use some of my other cars i get the finger and wr sign (perhaps they know me) which i never get in a old yank sometimes costing more. Plus nobody talks to you, perhaps they feel intimidated i don't know , Aren't folk strange they judge you on what you drive not who you are.

One thing you can't do with a modern car is have all these story's and memories of them, just like your MK9 exhaust falling off and petrol
pissing out of the second tank.

My surfing mate's French girlfriend went to see her parents in Bordeaux being 8 months pregnant probably not the wisest thing to do.
He got a phone call in the middle of the night saying she was having labour pains and her mum said it looks like the baby's on the way early.
Although having 23 cars and bikes the only car he thought might make it to Bordeaux was his 59 Galaxie Sunliner as the others probably
wouldn't even get him to the Ferry. 2 weeks later he's on his way back with girlfriend and new born baby on board with the roof down.
Some how i don't think the fond memories of the journey would be so dear if done in a everday car .
.

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

Thinking back on the Mark 9 - I really took an uninformed punt on it. Was owned by the father of a friend of the girl I was going out with at the time. Hadn't heard it running, nothing......paid my £35 - turned up with a can of petrol - can of water and a battery. No mot or tax on it. Filled up the rad with water - started it and the exhaust system promptly disintegrated and fell off. So open manifolds. Next thing was a coupel of core plug 'popped' - so no water. I'm committed - can't go back - no briefing - no exhaust - no cooling. Home was fortunately two miles or so away.......much more to tell about running on a budget if any interest.
Yes - took the C3 off-sale - not enough interest and I kept getting swaps offered and got fed-up with the typical hassle of non-serious buyers and wouldn't have had the patience for EBay or some of the other 'for sale' sites. Real issue really is that chrome bumper C3's are grossly undervalued currently as compared with C2's (which are fundamentally the same car wearing 'different clothes', yet typically double the price or more). How wrong is a market that pays £25K and more for a 'cooking' small block Mustang coupe yet ignores even super clean mid/late 70's C3 Vettes?. Right now in this current world I'm expecting redundancy any day and don't really want to lash out £££'s on a daily driver. The Vette actually if I use it in a 'controlled' way, weather permitting it could oddly be surprising cheap to use (despite low teens urban mpg and Super Unleaded) - i.e Classic insurance (less than £200). MOT exempt. No RFL tax to pay. ULEZ exempt (not that I'm likely to use in the Zone) - and the final touch - ultimate respect our there on the road from other drivers, pedestrians, bikers etc etc.

When you take away the cost of normal car insurance ,road tax and mot's to pay for plus even if your capable of working on the car yourself
sometimes you still have to get a main dealer involved if a computer problem and apart from cheap classic insurance all you got to do is pour petrol down the Vettes throat, Wouldn't work for everyone,suppose would depend on your type of commute .

The respect as you say and interest in these classic cars especially yanks is a really good feel factor when out driving, forget about the world on your shoulders for that period of time. big smiles,thumbs up and waves are all part of it and can make a simple petrol stop quite lengthy but having eclectic taste, when i use some of my other cars i get the finger and wr sign (perhaps they know me) which i never get in a old yank sometimes costing more. Plus nobody talks to you, perhaps they feel intimidated i don't know , Aren't folk strange they judge you on what you drive not who you are.

One thing you can't do with a modern car is have all these story's and memories of them, just like your MK9 exhaust falling off and petrol
pissing out of the second tank.

My surfing mate's French girlfriend went to see her parents in Bordeaux being 8 months pregnant probably not the wisest thing to do.
He got a phone call in the middle of the night saying she was having labour pains and her mum said it looks like the baby's on the way early.
Although having 23 cars and bikes the only car he thought might make it to Bordeaux was his 59 Galaxie Sunliner as the others probably
wouldn't even get him to the Ferry. 2 weeks later he's on his way back with girlfriend and new born baby on board with the roof down.
Some how i don't think the fond memories of the journey would be so dear if done in a everday car .
.

Problem with the older cars is getting back in to the habit of keeping on top of everything on a daily basis - driving late model cars with their inherent reliability kinda gets you out of the habit of checking all fluids and levels before use every day and being prepared to do repairs on the roadside en-route to wherever you are going.

Edited by roscobbc on Tuesday 1st December 17:44

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

Problem with the older cars is getting back in to the habit of keeping on top of everything on a daily basis - driving late model cars with their inherent reliability kinda gets you out of the habit of checking all fluids and levels before use every day and being prepared to do repairs on the roadside en-route to wherever you are going.

Edited by roscobbc on Tuesday 1st December 17:44

Ye where i live dictates that i got to have a reliable daily ,I bought not by choice but by accident a one owner 05 Lexus 200 with all the whistles and bells worth only a bag of sweets, I've added another 35k miles to it's already high mileage and keep checking the levels but never needed anything at all,
Even the oil is still squeaky clean as if it was put in yesterday. Probably the best yet boring car i've ever owned but at least it gets me there and back with no issues. My son drives a 89 190E that my late dad bought new so a family heirloom and that's just as reliable despite being 31 years old.

Had to make a dash to the vet the other day and being sunny thought i would take one of the Rods but with my heart in my mouth , Always treat it as a bonus if i get there and back without something falling off.

[rat rod]

newsatton ,I expect you have already seen it but there's a 79 Z28 on E Bay ,i think it was listed today or yesterday now, unusual in green, Quite like it in that colour .
Think it might be genuine one, but not sure, has the decals but who knows these days, it's not the one that you mentioned that was near to you. Otherwise not much about any good in that price range, 10k for £6/£7k cars in the real world..

[NMNeil]

rat rod said:

I was in a state of shock when i saw him ,he looked almost unrecognisable ,it really upset me how that could happen.

They shouldn't have been allowed to film it and i'm sure this wouldn't happen today.

So very sad . Just goes to show how life can bite you in the ass no matter who you are.

This one shocked me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBCfqYdTVM

[rat rod]

NMNeil said:

rat rod said:

I was in a state of shock when i saw him ,he looked almost unrecognisable ,it really upset me how that could happen.

They shouldn't have been allowed to film it and i'm sure this wouldn't happen today.

So very sad . Just goes to show how life can bite you in the ass no matter who you are.

This one shocked me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBCfqYdTVM

Was going to watch it but then realised it was almost 2 hours long, Still going to watch it as i'm intrigued what shocked you.

Will have a go after Loose Woman and Dickinson's real deal.

[newsatten]

RR loving your choice of day time TV
Got to love Loose Women !
Yeah saw the Chevy, but Nah, blown the idea out now, anything interesting is too much money, its cold, its dark, im old and realised i really dont want to lay on my back on the drive welding another pile of pooh !

Got the Taunus in colour, looks Sharpe, i'l bang it back together over the next couple of weeks, then im going to have a break from old buckets for a month or two lol............................

The Gallardo with a proper gearbox must be pretty epic, Enjoy ..................................................

[newsatten]

Pleased with the Quarters, Salterfix moody wheel aches, rear lower drop off's, had a fabricate the front lower section, and 18" of the sill,
had to do this on both sides, Moody pattern rear panel, fitted where it touched lol.......................
Repairs to both doors, both front Quarters, bonnet and boot, the roof looked like Micheal Flatley had Danced all over it,

Lost count of the hours ive lost ! Mates Rates ...............................................

Good looking car, just needs a strong V6.......................................... lol............................

[rat rod]

newsatten said:

Pleased with the Quarters, Salterfix moody wheel aches, rear lower drop off's, had a fabricate the front lower section, and 18" of the sill,
had to do this on both sides, Moody pattern rear panel, fitted where it touched lol.......................
Repairs to both doors, both front Quarters, bonnet and boot, the roof looked like Micheal Flatley had Danced all over it,

Lost count of the hours ive lost ! Mates Rates ...............................................

Good looking car, just needs a strong V6.......................................... lol............................

The Taunus is coming together well, you can tell a lot of work has gone into it .Colour works well.
Mates rates,never get fat out of that but i'm sure he would do the same for you.

Good decision keeping out of the cold and damp especially with your knee, I've got arthritis because of laying on cold
concrete floors under these cars.Put all your energy into finishing the Challenger, I need to see that at Wheels Day,Boris permitting.

Epic,no i got other words for it and it's not that.
Never really bonded with it,although 16 years old i think it's to new for me, had 3 classic one's before this. problem with them is you spend
more time looking at the oil and temp gauges than where you going.scary if any unwanted noises

Didn't start well,had to be recovered first day collecting it ,The guy who charged £5k to recommission it for the seller recovered me as i'd not gone far, said it would be a week with no charge ,7 months later and £4'800 i'm on my way home again.

Was running but not well, after 2 weeks and in pieces all over his workshop he said he can't get it to start at all.
Would have taken it away but it was literally in pieces so had to go along with it

Made matters worse he stopped answering the phone which meant i had to drive to London once a week to 10 days to make sure
he and the car was still there . Didn't help that found out he had just been made bankrupt and was being done for fraud.

Worst still i think he was using my car as parts for another one that was there but i couldn't prove it.
The day i collected it he wasn't there and left a message to say it's going to cost me £4k for cash or £4.800 with a invoice
Thought better to add a bit more history to the car so paid the latter,still waiting for my invoice, have really tried to get it but
without success, Given up now but will pay him a visit at his new shop when i'm in London but not holding my breath, life's to short.

After 7 months of agonising is my car in a container on the way to Romania i just wanted it back.

Not many Lambo's round here so the kids and teenagers seem to love it even without the Hollywood doors.
Probably wouldn't even get noticed in Sloan Street.

German build quality with Italian soul ,perfect mix but It's left a bit of a taste. Did zero mileage last year and 12 miles this year
and that was taking it for a M.O.T,

Got someone who wants to do a straight swap for a 59 C1 vette ,he's just waiting for the service history to be updated.
Not sure of the value of both ,mates think i'm mad even thinking about it, swapping a Lambo for a old Chevy is the way they look at it.
But on a hot sunny night i know which one i would rather be driving .

Sorry another chapter out of "War and peace"

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 3rd December 00:53

[roscobbc]

At least with the Vette all the mechanical bits are 'bread 'n' butter' stuff. Provided we can still continue sourcing parts from the USA you'll always be able to get what you want......for ever (albeit perhaps at a price) - Euro stuff seems so complex and manufactured without thought for simple assembly line type installation. It may only be a C1 to many people but there are enthusiasts for every individual year of C1 production - its really surprising some of the differences in styling/body panels etc etc from year to year. I can't get on with C1/s (and C2's) you seem to sit ON them rather than IN them (like C3's) - does my back in........

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

At least with the Vette all the mechanical bits are 'bread 'n' butter' stuff. Provided we can still continue sourcing parts from the USA you'll always be able to get what you want......for ever (albeit perhaps at a price) - Euro stuff seems so complex and manufactured without thought for simple assembly line type installation. It may only be a C1 to many people but there are enthusiasts for every individual year of C1 production - its really surprising some of the differences in styling/body panels etc etc from year to year. I can't get on with C1/s (and C2's) you seem to sit ON them rather than IN them (like C3's) - does my back in........

Nuts and bolts vs E.C.U's ect, parts interchangeable on Vette's or any older yanks but no short cuts with European exotics, everything seems unnecessarily complicated and you need a man in a shed who knows his way round these cars otherwise you are at the mercy of the main agents , parts can be bought from Euro spares who do either used or new parts. the cost of the parts even for the Gallardo's are eye watering, £900 for a set of plugs for a Aventador and only Lamborghini sell them.

Didn't do to much homework so probably could be bought cheaper but a crate Ford 408 stroker ,425 bhp for under $6,500 ,Probably cover the cost a couple of pistons on the Gallardo,

I've never driven a C1 but have been told that they are a little old fashion ,you wear it rather than drive it, Ideal for slow cruising
in the summer ,I've only owned 1 C2 , a early 63 roadster,found it a bit shaky but had the factory knock off wheels and factory side pipes
and quite enjoyed it but didn't feel i should push it as i'm sure it had drum brakes .

Your wright you sit on both the C1 and C2 and get more encapsulated in the C3 and seems a lot narrower but not sure if i
imagined that. I had both a C Type and a D Type replica's and they were the same The C felt vintage and you sat on it and the
D you sat very much lower in it even more encapsulated than the C3 you felt attached and part of the car and drove more like a well sorted E Type,

What i like about a classic yank you don't have to go that fast to scare yourself unlike a modern performance car.and got more chance
of keeping your license. There is so much more theatre you think you are going faster than you are.

Probably the exception to the rule with your engine though .

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 3rd December 08:15

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

Nuts and bolts vs E.C.U's ect, parts interchangeable on Vette's or any older yanks but no short cuts with European exotics, everything seems unnecessarily complicated and you need a man in a shed who knows his way round these cars otherwise you are at the mercy of the main agents , parts can be bought from Euro spares who do either used or new parts. the cost of the parts even for the Gallardo's are eye watering, £900 for a set of plugs for a Aventador and only Lamborghini sell them.

Didn't do to much homework so probably could be bought cheaper but a crate Ford 408 stroker ,425 bhp for under $6,500 ,Probably cover the cost a couple of pistons on the Gallardo,

I've never driven a C1 but have been told that they are a little old fashion ,you wear it rather than drive it, Ideal for slow cruising
in the summer ,I've only owned 1 C2 , a early 63 roadster,found it a bit shaky but had the factory knock off wheels and factory side pipes
and quite enjoyed it but didn't feel i should push it as i'm sure it had drum brakes .

Your wright you sit on both the C1 and C2 and get more encapsulated in the C3 and seems a lot narrower but not sure if i
imagined that. I had both a C Type and a D Type replica's and they were the same The C felt vintage and you sat on it and the
D you sat very much lower in it even more encapsulated than the C3 you felt attached and part of the car and drove more like a well sorted E Type,

What i like about a classic yank you don't have to go that fast to scare yourself unlike a modern performance car.and got more chance
of keeping your license. There is so much more theatre you think you are going faster than you are.

Probably the exception to the rule with your engine though .

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 3rd December 08:15

A C3 (at least an early one) isn't exactly class leading in terms of high speed aerodynamics - quite the reverse really. Front end lift begins at 120mph...... Later car were much improved - eg early 70's privateers being timed at up to 212 mph on the Mulsanne Straight at LeMans - only L88 power, tall tyres and gearing......

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

A C3 (at least an early one) isn't exactly class leading in terms of high speed aerodynamics - quite the reverse really. Front end lift begins at 120mph...... Later car were much improved - eg early 70's privateers being timed at up to 212 mph on the Mulsanne Straight at LeMans - only L88 power, tall tyres and gearing......

Thought you are a brave man at 120 mph but 212 mph,

[newsatten]

Dont do it

A wobbly C1 for a Lambo

Sell the Gallardo and buy the TA and a useable 57 Tbird simple ..............................................................joking aside great position to be in,

Times are so strange now, i couldn't live or want any car that caused unnecessary stress, there will always be a element of slight uncertainly
when it comes to 50 year old cars, its part and parcel of there charm,
But you'l never worry about huge repair bill's, fuel bill's oh yes RR your fortunate to have such a envious dilemma