Chip on the shoulder - Rolex Vrs Omega
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I think its all down to personal choice and cant see a lot between them. Also the movement that was in the original speed master was of a different calibre movement, it had the cal 321 in it and all the later one I think after around 1965 had a cal 861 movement. I dont think this was ever test for NASA. All cal 321 speed masters are classed as `pre moon` and have the sea horse type emblem on the back, rather than the first watch on the moon. I `think` that the later ones with the cal 861 movement was the same movement as a the breitling 806 navitimer and was a re branded Venus cal 178 movement.
I`ll get my coat, a few pics of my old watches....
I`ll get my coat, a few pics of my old watches....
my two pennorth, I can understand the flash b'stard comments with the solid gold Rolex's but don't consider them flash in their more plainer versions, any more than any other 'sports watch'. I think Breitlings look really tacky these days and I'm saying that as a previous owner (I am sure some will disagree)
I like to look of the Omega's always have, but these days its like every one has one (even in Yorkshireland) and thats enough reason for me not to own one with the possible exception of the Planet Ocean which are a bit different. (I also like the 50th anniversary Green Bezel Rolex - maybe I just like colour)
Panerai are rare as rocking horse brown stuff around here, as are Rolex's. I like to be 'unusual' so they are pretty high up on my 'next watch' list.
I like to look of the Omega's always have, but these days its like every one has one (even in Yorkshireland) and thats enough reason for me not to own one with the possible exception of the Planet Ocean which are a bit different. (I also like the 50th anniversary Green Bezel Rolex - maybe I just like colour)
Panerai are rare as rocking horse brown stuff around here, as are Rolex's. I like to be 'unusual' so they are pretty high up on my 'next watch' list.
Edited by sparkyhx on Thursday 10th May 13:10
Im not really keen on any Omegas and only really like Steel Rolex Daytonas, would keep my Breitling (Montbrilliant DatoraSS) over any Omega and Rolex Sub/SeaD. Panerais are nice but have to suit you wrist and are shite with a cufflink shirt and have recently starting to really want a J L couture Master Compressor Chronograph which I think is great.
Must admit i think this is whats nice about watches/cars whatever everyone has an opinion and likes different styles. the Rolex debate is funny thouh because lots of people hate them but they still sell very well.
Must admit i think this is whats nice about watches/cars whatever everyone has an opinion and likes different styles. the Rolex debate is funny thouh because lots of people hate them but they still sell very well.
I bought myself a sea dweller a while ago & love it. I'm a diver but will probably end up using a D9 next time I get wet. I like the fact it's subtle (well, apart from the fact it's so thick). I actually like the look of a lot of omega's espeically that one with the orange bezel (no idea which one it was I saw) very james bond 
One of the factors I considered when I was chosing mine was resale (should the worst happen or I just fancy a change), solid & reliable are words which spring to mind.
At the end of the day, who cares - presumably most people buy what ever they buy because they like it, not because it's aspirational or to affect a persona.
I'd love to see the nitrogen escape valve in action though
One of the factors I considered when I was chosing mine was resale (should the worst happen or I just fancy a change), solid & reliable are words which spring to mind.
At the end of the day, who cares - presumably most people buy what ever they buy because they like it, not because it's aspirational or to affect a persona.
I'd love to see the nitrogen escape valve in action though
tybalt said:
What about Breitling -I'd put them up against Rolex. I'd have thought Omega were more up against Tag and other similar?
Breitling. Even greater vulgarity value than a Rolex? Speaking as a committed Omega Speedie owner I think its just down to personal choice. Each high end maker has hardcore fans; personally I cannot see the attraction in owning a Panerai or a Roli but they are still excellent mechjanical time pieces. If one needs accuracy then quartz would be be first choice. I chose my speedie because it has soul and because I like the look, weight and the design.
As the actress no doubt informed the bish: "you pays your money and you makes your choice"
Ere guv, what do I do with the pin?
A lot of people knock Rolex because of the mass production and image but the one thing that I don't think can be denied is that they make a product that, with a little TLC should be going long after the owner is six feet under, and that loses relatively little value. I remember reading once that wherever you are in the world a Rolex basically equals "emergency cash".
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
hutchingsp said:
A lot of people knock Rolex because of the mass production and image but the one thing that I don't think can be denied is that they make a product that, with a little TLC should be going long after the owner is six feet under, and that loses relatively little value. I remember reading once that wherever you are in the world a Rolex basically equals "emergency cash".
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
One of the reasons I have one.
No matter what disaster befalls me, I can always walk into a watch dealer and spring £3,000 cash in ten minutes if I need it.
maxf said:
Do you really think you could get £3k cash from a dealer for your green sub? Not being inflamatary - if they genuinely do still hold their money that well I'll get one.
Blowers have 3 selling at around £3200 I doubt they would buy at £3000.
Watchfinder have 2, one for £2700 the other just over £3000
Edited by stovey on Thursday 10th May 22:52
m.lovell said:
Also the movement that was in the original speed master was of a different calibre movement, it had the cal 321 in it and all the later one I think after around 1965 had a cal 861 movement. I dont think this was ever test for NASA.
The .861 was tested by Nasa, i think, and tested more stringently than was the .321. It was the .861 that beat a number of other manufacturers.
Edited by Winton on Thursday 10th May 23:54
Vesuvius 996 said:
hutchingsp said:
A lot of people knock Rolex because of the mass production and image but the one thing that I don't think can be denied is that they make a product that, with a little TLC should be going long after the owner is six feet under, and that loses relatively little value. I remember reading once that wherever you are in the world a Rolex basically equals "emergency cash".
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
The image problem is as with any desirable product.
The moment people buy them simply because they are desirable, those that buy them because they genuinely like them and respect the heritage/engineering are tarred with the same brush as those that buy them simply because David Beckham (or whoever) wears one.
One of the reasons I have one.
No matter what disaster befalls me, I can always walk into a watch dealer and spring £3,000 cash in ten minutes if I need it.
Yeah, but you have one of those ickky Green ones....more £300 than £3000, surely...
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