Your thoughts on fake watches

Your thoughts on fake watches

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cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Zoon said:
If I'm wrong, what was the number one reason you purchased a Rolex?
Quality.

I wanted a watch that would see me out, and one that I could pass on to my children.




anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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davek_964 said:
Zoon said:
NDA said:
I suspect there are people who buy certain watch brands to show off how successful they are
I would wager that anybody buying a Rolex or similar does so for that exact reason.
Gross generalisation, and certainly wrong in my case.
Totally wrong in my case as well.

I buy stainless steel Rolex watches as I am practically mesmerised by the looks and design of them. They are by far my favourite watches in the world purely on looks.

They give me pleasure to wear and look at.

It isn't about showing off, as the stainless sports models are just about the cheapest you can buy.

Fortunately for my wallet, I cannot stand any Rolex watches (or other brands) that involve gold, diamonds, precious stones, numerous complications, or anything like that.

But each to their own. I fully appreciate that some people will hate Rolex watches and much prefer other things, which is completely fine.

TiggerBits

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199 posts

75 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
You are dancing on the head of a pin with this argument. I've already linked to some of the numerous articles which show the link between counterfeit goods and organised crime. Whilst the situation you are describing is conceivable, it is nuance which doesn't blunt the main point being made.

TiggerBits

Original Poster:

199 posts

75 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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TiggerBits said:
The organised crime you speak of is probably in China, and I live in the UK. Why the hell should I care, if I can buy a nice looking watch at a bargain price ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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TiggerBits said:
The organised crime you speak of is probably in China, and I live in the UK. Why the hell should I care, if I can buy a nice looking watch at a bargain price ?
That's the spirit.

Next installment, Jimmy Savile - he never fked my kid so let's give him a break.

soupdragon1

4,098 posts

98 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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The good thing about the 'good' fakes is that they take a beautiful design and you can then buy it for cheap. The original will be a work of art and the copy will also be a work of art. Opening it up will reveal the difference of course, but on your wrist, no actual difference.

EddieSteadyGo

12,128 posts

204 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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desolate said:
TiggerBits said:
The organised crime you speak of is probably in China, and I live in the UK. Why the hell should I care, if I can buy a nice looking watch at a bargain price ?
That's the spirit.

Next installment, Jimmy Savile - he never fked my kid so let's give him a break.
Exactly.

I'm sure we all use same logic buying stolen goods. After all, why should I care about someone else house being burgled if I can get a big telly at a bargain price rolleyes

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
Totally wrong in my case as well.

I buy stainless steel Rolex watches as I am practically mesmerised by the looks and design of them. They are by far my favourite watches in the world purely on looks.

They give me pleasure to wear and look at.

It isn't about showing off, as the stainless sports models are just about the cheapest you can buy.

Fortunately for my wallet, I cannot stand any Rolex watches (or other brands) that involve gold, diamonds, precious stones, numerous complications, or anything like that.

But each to their own. I fully appreciate that some people will hate Rolex watches and much prefer other things, which is completely fine.
Likewise. And for 90% of the time the watch is hidden by my shirt cuffs etc, so a pretty poor choice for ‘showing off to others’.

Harry Flashman

19,410 posts

243 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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lostkiwi said:
Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
I'm simply saying that Keith is quite keen on the Rolex brand, the image it projects when he's in the Gardeners Arms at lunch, or at the golf club on a Saturday. I think he's sad.
There you go again about image. If thats why you (or anyone) buy something its pretty sad.
If no-one cared about their image, brands would not bother advertising to the degree they do.

I would be perfectly willing to bet that you, at some point in your life, have bought something because of the brand image of said object. That brand image may be "reliability". But its still an image - if you looked hard enough you could find a product from another brand that achieves the same objective standard.


Edited by Harry Flashman on Monday 30th April 18:28

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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I think you can buy on brand without wanting to project an image.

A lot of onanists buy Rolexes to show off, but many others buy them because they are tough, wellish made mid price mass produced kit that will do the job asked of them.

Those buyers are still buying into the brand and marketing.

lostkiwi

4,585 posts

125 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Harry Flashman said:
lostkiwi said:
Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
I'm simply saying that Keith is quite keen on the Rolex brand, the image it projects when he's in the Gardeners Arms at lunch, or at the golf club on a Saturday. I think he's sad.
There you go again about image. If thats why you (or anyone) buy something its pretty sad.
If no-one cared about their image, brands would not bother advertising to the degree they do.

I would be perfectly willing to bet that you, at some point in your life, have bought something because of the brand image of said object. That brand image may be "reliability". But its still an image - if you looked hard enough you could find a product from another brand that achieves the same objective standard.


Edited by Harry Flashman on Monday 30th April 18:28
I drive a Smart as my daily (through choice).

Image?


Squadrone Rosso

2,766 posts

148 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Lots of fake people by genuine watches. Strange but true.

Harry Flashman

19,410 posts

243 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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lostkiwi said:
I drive a Smart as my daily (through choice).

Image?
My daily is a 2002 Focus on over 200k miles. But that's a utility item. When any smartphone tells the time, a watch is bought (mostly) for non utility reasons. I mean my dayqatch is a Casio F91, so I take your point of course.

hilly10

7,167 posts

229 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
Quality.

I wanted a watch that would see me out, and one that I could pass on to my children.
Ditto my Rolex Sub is from 1985 and still looks minty, it’s had a overhaul in 2008 keeps perfect time it goes up n value every year, and it will be passed on to my grandson on my demise, and hopefully it will then go to his son. That is why I bought a Rolex

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
Zoon said:
If I'm wrong, what was the number one reason you purchased a Rolex?
Quality.

I wanted a watch that would see me out, and one that I could pass on to my children.
https://www.casio.com/products/watches/classic/f91w-1

wink

Jayho

2,028 posts

171 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Squadrone Rosso said:
Lots of fake people by genuine watches. Strange but true.
Yeah but in comparison how many genuine people do you see buying fake watches? wink

Blown2CV

29,023 posts

204 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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TiggerBits said:
sidicks said:
It certainly makes me wonder about the sort of people you / your friend deal with - 90% of them must be idiots.
NO, at least 90% of people know nothing about watches
and why would you care what people who know nothing about watches think about your watch

Blown2CV

29,023 posts

204 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
lostkiwi said:
I'm guessing a lot of people with the real things get up in arms about the fact its a copy because they feel their exclusivity is threatened and suddenly because Joe Bloggs (who would never have bought the real thing anyway but liked the style so bought a copy) has one they feel all emasculated. Sad.
Rolex aren't exclusive anyway. We've already had the used car dealer cliche bandied about during this discussion.

If the faker only appreciated the style of a watch they'd buy a cheaper, similar one from another brand. They haven't though. They want the expensive brand name stamped on the front. It's no different to all those fake LV bags you see on every woman's arm in an airpot.
no they aren't exclusive at all - they are wonderfully obtainable. All you need to do is pay the money.

Blown2CV

29,023 posts

204 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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people that don't understand why you would buy a rolex have probably never even held one. They don't understand a quality thing, because everything they buy is cheap white goods consumer ste. Hopefully if you had it on your wrist you would 'get' it. If not even then, I wouldn't know what to show that person.

InductionRoar

2,016 posts

133 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Fakes are tragic in every walk of life.

Have you seen my new Pagani?



The dashboard is stunning.