Incoming… what do you have? (Vol. 3)
Discussion
dom9 said:
More pics and impressions, please!
here you go...
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It's a very nice watch for the money, you really need to see it in person though as the silver doesn't really photograph well, it also is much closer to grey in colour than the Taupe colour that keeps being mentioned. At 39mm i think it's probably the perfect size for my 6 3/4" wrist too. The strap is quite short hich for me is perfect but may be a problem for someone with chunky wrists! I was dead set on swapping the strap out but i really like the fabric. All in all highly reccomended.
EX51GE R said:
...The strap is quite short hich for me is perfect but may be a problem for someone with chunky wrists! I was dead set on swapping the strap out but i really like the fabric. All in all highly reccomended.
Looks great.Hopefully they will fine themselves producing a matching silver bracelet for it at some point (what dreams!)
CardShark said:
I'm still mulling over getting one myself, all be it the 40mm, and I'll probably go hand wind as well though Stowa's website doesn't make it clear as to if the screw down part of the case back is steel or bronze like yours. There is, of course, the green dial with bronze handset option soon to be released as well - I've spoken about that one before.
Hmmm.....
They haven't updated the website yet but the 40mm comes with bronze caseback as well now whereas it was an option before. This si straight from Stowa recently in a message with someone else as they too were curious.Hmmm.....
Edited by robbiekhan on Saturday 22 May 15:56
Edited by robbiekhan on Saturday 22 May 15:57
robbiekhan said:
I can't recall who or in which thread... but someone asked for continuation pics on how the Stowa bronze case evolves in time. Well I wanted to share some pics 3 weeks in and after multiple washes etc (covid precautions, dirt etc). After a wash with soap/handwash the case gets a little brighter but still warm bronze. Within a day it returns to the factory finish look and over a couple of days forms a visual textured finish which is vintage and really pleasing to look at. The surface is still perfectly smooth of course, so whatever hand finished treatment Stowa apply lives up to their claims that it should not oxidise much more beyond their preferred "look" which in my eyes looks nigh on perfect for how a vintage bronze case should look and not have to worry about green stuff growing or uneven patina (cough ORIS cough...) or anything like that.
I can confidently call this my grail watch now. If I never bought another watch I would be perfectly happy with just this alone, especially on the Hirsch rubber strap.
Pics:
And not case related, but the movement really does deserve an inspection with a loupe, the detailing is fab:
I don't recognise your criticism of the Oris bronze watches as an owner myself. The patination is unique to me. The way that my clothing puts a shine to exposed areas etc is personal. The coin edge can dull if in a shirt and then I put a wool sweater on which covers the watch and within a day or so the coin edge is polished again. It is a living thing in that sense.I can confidently call this my grail watch now. If I never bought another watch I would be perfectly happy with just this alone, especially on the Hirsch rubber strap.
Pics:
And not case related, but the movement really does deserve an inspection with a loupe, the detailing is fab:
The Stowa is a lovely thing in itself but has a very tainted history.
Didn't the guys that wore them bomb the feck out of Europe and Britain in the 40's?
I'm not comfortable with that history.
We're all different though eh?
ETA: Zero mention of the Luftwaffe on their website. Hmmmmmm! I wonder why?
Edited by Trophy Husband on Saturday 22 May 16:03
Trophy Husband said:
I don't recognise your criticism of the Oris bronze watches as an owner myself. The patination is unique to me. The way that my clothing puts a shine to exposed areas etc is personal. The coin edge can dull if in a shirt and then I put a wool sweater on which covers the watch and within a day or so the coin edge is polished again. It is a living thing in that sense.
The Stowa is a lovely thing in itself but has a very tainted history.
Didn't the guys that wore them bomb the feck out of Europe and Britain in the 40's?
I'm not comfortable with that history.
We're all different though eh?
See my mate had the Oris Big Crown for a few weeks and constantly complained about how one half of the watch was undergoing patina whilst the other half which was under a sleeve was not so when you actually looked at the watch it just looked strange as if half the watch was dunked in some reactive chemical. I was about to buy one too but his experience did put me off.The Stowa is a lovely thing in itself but has a very tainted history.
Didn't the guys that wore them bomb the feck out of Europe and Britain in the 40's?
I'm not comfortable with that history.
We're all different though eh?
In the end this sort of rapid oxidisation was too much for him and he returned it.This is not a prob for some, as they enjoy this type of rapid change, but for me that would be too much too quick. This was one of the interesting things I read up on when researching the different bronze alloys used by different brands (at least where the brand puts some effort in to mention the alloy compound used and their techniques).
But onto the heritage side of things... Like all companies who were around during the WWII era, what they represent now isn't what they represented back then. Would you refuse to get into a Mercedes or VW these days because they made specific vehicles for the nazis back then too?
History is history, there are interesting stories behind these brands and whilst Stowa were one of the five that were authorised to produce these watches for German pilots, it doesn't mean the brands supported what they were being used for and nor does it mean people should avoid wearing them. They were produced because the design was fundamentally the best design to tell the time quickly, that was and still is their only purpose and that is indeed why people like Fliegers these days. A timeless design that will always remain that way.
None of the 5 brands mention Luftwafe either. Look at IWC, they were one of the 5...
The best write-up on Flieger watches is this and it puts it into words perfectly: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/flieger-friday-...
Edited by robbiekhan on Saturday 22 May 16:38
Greendubber said:
To continue the Tudor theme.....
.... finally got my hands on my birthday present and I'm absolutely smitten with it
Really nice! .... finally got my hands on my birthday present and I'm absolutely smitten with it
I think that will be my next purchase, either that or an Oyster 39mm if I can find one at the right price.
This is my Datejust 41mm and I much prefer the Black Bay above, so much cleaner without the cyclops. I really like the black and the silver dials as well.
robbiekhan said:
See my mate had the Oris Big Crown for a few weeks and constantly complained about how one half of the watch was undergoing patina whilst the other half which was under a sleeve was not so when you actually looked at the watch it just looked strange as if half the watch was dunked in some reactive chemical. I was about to buy one too but his experience did put me off.
In the end this sort of rapid oxidisation was too much for him and he returned it.This is not a prob for some, as they enjoy this type of rapid change, but for me that would be too much too quick. This was one of the interesting things I read up on when researching the different bronze alloys used by different brands (at least where the brand puts some effort in to mention the alloy compound used and their techniques).
But onto the heritage side of things... Like all companies who were around during the WWII era, what they represent now isn't what they represented back then. Would you refuse to get into a Mercedes or VW these days because they made specific vehicles for the nazis back then too?
History is history, there are interesting stories behind these brands and whilst Stowa were one of the five that were authorised to produce these watches for German pilots, it doesn't mean the brands supported what they were being used for and nor does it mean people should avoid wearing them. They were produced because the design was fundamentally the best design to tell the time quickly, that was and still is their only purpose and that is indeed why people like Fliegers these days. A timeless design that will always remain that way.
None of the 5 brands mention Luftwafe either. Look at IWC, they were one of the 5...
The best write-up on Flieger watches is this and it puts it into words perfectly: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/flieger-friday-...
Fair point well made regarding history. There's always more than one way to look at stuff!In the end this sort of rapid oxidisation was too much for him and he returned it.This is not a prob for some, as they enjoy this type of rapid change, but for me that would be too much too quick. This was one of the interesting things I read up on when researching the different bronze alloys used by different brands (at least where the brand puts some effort in to mention the alloy compound used and their techniques).
But onto the heritage side of things... Like all companies who were around during the WWII era, what they represent now isn't what they represented back then. Would you refuse to get into a Mercedes or VW these days because they made specific vehicles for the nazis back then too?
History is history, there are interesting stories behind these brands and whilst Stowa were one of the five that were authorised to produce these watches for German pilots, it doesn't mean the brands supported what they were being used for and nor does it mean people should avoid wearing them. They were produced because the design was fundamentally the best design to tell the time quickly, that was and still is their only purpose and that is indeed why people like Fliegers these days. A timeless design that will always remain that way.
None of the 5 brands mention Luftwafe either. Look at IWC, they were one of the 5...
The best write-up on Flieger watches is this and it puts it into words perfectly: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/flieger-friday-...
Edited by robbiekhan on Saturday 22 May 16:38
I'll take some photos of the patina on my Oris to show the difference. It is the shiny bits that make it in my opinion.
Cheers.
gizlaroc said:
Really nice!
I think that will be my next purchase, either that or an Oyster 39mm if I can find one at the right price.
This is my Datejust 41mm and I much prefer the Black Bay above, so much cleaner without the cyclops. I really like the black and the silver dials as well.
Thank you, I'm not a fan of a cyclops and I love the clear non fussy dial. I'm ordering the leather strap for it too once I can track one down so I can mix things up a bit I think that will be my next purchase, either that or an Oyster 39mm if I can find one at the right price.
This is my Datejust 41mm and I much prefer the Black Bay above, so much cleaner without the cyclops. I really like the black and the silver dials as well.
Trophy Husband said:
Fair point well made regarding history. There's always more than one way to look at stuff!
I'll take some photos of the patina on my Oris to show the difference. It is the shiny bits that make it in my opinion.
Cheers.
Look forward to it! Always interested in seeing everyones bronze watch over time as each one is as you say individual.I'll take some photos of the patina on my Oris to show the difference. It is the shiny bits that make it in my opinion.
Cheers.
Well I placed a cheeky bid on a 1966 pepsi GMT about 3 weeks ago thinking market value was at least 50% more than my chancers offer. I then proceeded to forget about my folly.
The “congratulations on your winning bid” email came as quite a shock.
So bargain of the year ?
I will find out in a few days.
More likely to be an expensive reminder as to why a fool and his money rarely maintain a long term relationship.
I am heartened by searching on chrono24, I was correct about market value and my low ball bid. Now I am undertaking a crash course in the various dials, hands, and other details which make or break the watch in terms of originality and rarity. (or not)
Anyway the worst thing that can happen is I lose some money. Actually no, the worst thing that can happen is I fail to convince the current Mrs Sultana that I need another watch, and that bidding on unseen items on the internet is the logical strategy that all the smart fellows employ.
Methinks it might be better if I forget to tell her.........
The “congratulations on your winning bid” email came as quite a shock.
So bargain of the year ?
I will find out in a few days.
More likely to be an expensive reminder as to why a fool and his money rarely maintain a long term relationship.
I am heartened by searching on chrono24, I was correct about market value and my low ball bid. Now I am undertaking a crash course in the various dials, hands, and other details which make or break the watch in terms of originality and rarity. (or not)
Anyway the worst thing that can happen is I lose some money. Actually no, the worst thing that can happen is I fail to convince the current Mrs Sultana that I need another watch, and that bidding on unseen items on the internet is the logical strategy that all the smart fellows employ.
Methinks it might be better if I forget to tell her.........
AlvinSultana said:
Well I placed a cheeky bid on a 1966 pepsi GMT about 3 weeks ago thinking market value was at least 50% more than my chancers offer. I then proceeded to forget about my folly.
The “congratulations on your winning bid” email came as quite a shock.
So bargain of the year ?
I will find out in a few days.
More likely to be an expensive reminder as to why a fool and his money rarely maintain a long term relationship.
I am heartened by searching on chrono24, I was correct about market value and my low ball bid. Now I am undertaking a crash course in the various dials, hands, and other details which make or break the watch in terms of originality and rarity. (or not)
Anyway the worst thing that can happen is I lose some money. Actually no, the worst thing that can happen is I fail to convince the current Mrs Sultana that I need another watch, and that bidding on unseen items on the internet is the logical strategy that all the smart fellows employ.
Methinks it might be better if I forget to tell her.........
You never know, it could be the bargain of a lifetime and a hugely wise investment.The “congratulations on your winning bid” email came as quite a shock.
So bargain of the year ?
I will find out in a few days.
More likely to be an expensive reminder as to why a fool and his money rarely maintain a long term relationship.
I am heartened by searching on chrono24, I was correct about market value and my low ball bid. Now I am undertaking a crash course in the various dials, hands, and other details which make or break the watch in terms of originality and rarity. (or not)
Anyway the worst thing that can happen is I lose some money. Actually no, the worst thing that can happen is I fail to convince the current Mrs Sultana that I need another watch, and that bidding on unseen items on the internet is the logical strategy that all the smart fellows employ.
Methinks it might be better if I forget to tell her.........
could be...
Fingers crossed!
My confidence is wavering.
Still early days, but I think the dial might be a service dial. Although the dial and hands would appear to be identical in their colouring, so if it is a replacement it was done some time ago.
And perhaps the GMT hand looks a little short ?
But very hard to tell from a single picture.
Still early days, but I think the dial might be a service dial. Although the dial and hands would appear to be identical in their colouring, so if it is a replacement it was done some time ago.
And perhaps the GMT hand looks a little short ?
But very hard to tell from a single picture.
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