Rolex - the best watches

Rolex - the best watches

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alfabadass

1,852 posts

201 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Rolex is the BMW of watches.

Don;t they sell more than anyone else? Not knocking them as IMO they're solid buys. I wouldn't buy one though. There is a really mad stigma attached to them.

Slagathore

5,824 posts

194 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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I like having something knowing that most people won't know what it is. Sorta like having an old or classic car, where people who know about cars know about your car, but to the rest of the public, it's just any other car.

I see a lot of people with Rolex's, which would sort of put me off buying one. That's not to say I wouldn't have one!

It doesn't help when you get people who buy them just to pose, they do the brand no favours!


Vipers

32,945 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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King Rolex said:
there's something very satisfying knowing that my Rolex watches are real... I don't care if people think they're fake, the more people who do.... the more smug I feel

I love people asking if it's real.... I hand it over to some of them and love the look on their face as they realise it's real. the ones who wouldn't know if it's real or not just get told it's fake anyway, LOL
Good one, I love telling folk my SD only cost £200 new, of course they ask "How", etc, then I tell them I brought it around 76. laugh


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GrifoV8

87 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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A Rolex is a great watch and each occaission has different requirements. In my opinion - Stainless Steel Rolex (any model) in a casual a sporting environment = cool. Formality requires something else (Patek, IWC, etc etc). If you want to tell the time accurately then buy something else.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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PaulHogan said:
I give you Channel, Gucci, Burberry and… Rolex.
The irony laugh

Captain Chaos

393 posts

278 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Is it just me but is the hitherto friendly nature of this forum being eroded a little?

The original posters question was not well designed which is a shame as the watches he likes to deify are, in the main extremely well designed and manufactured. Most have evolved over decades (put a 60s Datejust next to a modern one and it's just like putting a 60s 911 next to a modern 911, the evolution is obvious though not as marked as the Porsche). The same is true inside the case where contunuous improvement (which is often not mentioned even by Rolex) is most certainly going on.

How can one define what is 'best'? In what context? Best made? Value for Money? Engineered? Robust / Reliable? Aesthetically Designed? Investment / Resale? Quality of manufacture? Brand Image?

Unless you are more specific with the question, the debate meanders and degenerates into punch and judy which isn't the idea on this usually gentlemanly forum.

I collect modern and vintage models including Omega, Longines, Girard-Perregaux, Patek...and I have more Rolexes than any other make for a number of reasons but none of them qualify for the term 'best'.

Unless you are counting a 1930s Rolex Prince Brancard perhaps...but that's a very personal view yes




So now can we go back to a bygone age of being a little more gentlemanly and constructive.....please smile





Edited by Captain Chaos on Friday 2nd January 15:03

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Very well said, CC.

As Stuart notes in the sticky at the top of this forum, this is one of the corners of PH that doesn't need much moderating.

Let's keep it that way.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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GrifoV8 said:
A Rolex is a great watch and each occaission has different requirements. In my opinion - Stainless Steel Rolex (any model) in a casual a sporting environment = cool. Formality requires something else (Patek, IWC, etc etc). If you want to tell the time accurately then buy something else.
I'd agree with you in theory, but then I'd go and wear a dive watch with a suit. This probably makes me a bit of an oik, but I do like the feel of a big chunk of time-telling steel on my wrist.

Edited by CommanderJameson on Friday 2nd January 15:19

GrifoV8

87 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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CommanderJameson said:
GrifoV8 said:
A Rolex is a great watch and each occaission has different requirements. In my opinion - Stainless Steel Rolex (any model) in a casual a sporting environment = cool. Formality requires something else (Patek, IWC, etc etc). If you want to tell the time accurately then buy something else.
I'd agree with you in theory, but then I'd go and wear a dive watch with a suit. This probably makes me a bit of an oik, but I do like the feel of a big chunk of time-telling steel on my wrist.

Edited by CommanderJameson on Friday 2nd January 15:19
You can also drop it in your glass of wine to show it's realbiggrin

Vipers

32,945 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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GrifoV8 said:
A Rolex is a great watch and each occaission has different requirements. In my opinion - Stainless Steel Rolex (any model) in a casual a sporting environment = cool. Formality requires something else (Patek, IWC, etc etc). If you want to tell the time accurately then buy something else.
Depends what accuracy you want, my SD looses around 14 seconds a WEEK. I always set it by my kitchen radio controlled clock each Sunday.

Maybe not all Rolex's are that accurate, mine didn't used to be, but since it had a service, 14 seconds a week aint to bad is it?

At the end of the day, what is the best watche is in the eye of the beholder. There was thread recently about the Rolex Datoyna, didn't like the watch at all to be honest. Sooner have my SD.


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Vipers

32,945 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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King Rolex said:
I seriously think Rolex's are the best pound for pound watches in existence for not much cash

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Pound for Pound, my SD has worked out at 11.6 p per day since new, so you may be right. If I include the cost of the service, OK works out to 29p per day, still not bad.

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Legion

142 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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alfabadass said:
Rolex is the BMW of watches.
Spot on. Excellent design, great history (some like Vacheron have far more though), and above all the most powerful marketing machine in the premium watch world. I have one in my modest collection. But I see it for what it is.
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.

To the OP a few questions, not meant in a provacative way:

- Seadweller, lovely watch. Is it your first 'nice' watch?
- What do you think of the old Milgauss? Wouldn't you like one of those? Very exclusive!
- The current Omega Planet Ocean has some awesome stats. It's quite a substantial piece. How does it compare to your SD? Why makes Rolex so good in comparison to the other marques?


dazren

22,612 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Legion said:
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.
Not sure I'd agree with rating Breitlings above Omegas, or have I misread what you typed?

okgo

38,366 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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dazren said:
Legion said:
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.
Not sure I'd agree with rating Breitlings above Omegas, or have I misread what you typed?
I think you have read it right..

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Surely a TAG is nowhere near the quality of an Omega

Papoo

3,691 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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dazren said:
Legion said:
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.
Not sure I'd agree with rating Breitlings above Omegas, or have I misread what you typed?
My sentiments, exactly. But, in context, he's probably right, if by the same logic, Rolex are the greatest.

In the eyes of a layperson, Breitling is perhaps regarded slightly higher than Tag and Omega.


Legion

142 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Papoo said:
dazren said:
Legion said:
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.
Not sure I'd agree with rating Breitlings above Omegas, or have I misread what you typed?
My sentiments, exactly. But, in context, he's probably right, if by the same logic, Rolex are the greatest.

In the eyes of a layperson, Breitling is perhaps regarded slightly higher than Tag and Omega.
You know, to be honest, I may reassess that. I have a Superocean Steelfish and used to have an Omega Seamaster. I think the problem for Brietling is that they just have too many models and the variances are minimal. Where Rolex win out, is the clear simple model lines that have been around for generations. The issue with Omega is that you can get on, say, the Seamaster bandwagon quite easily by getting the quartz version instead of the proper mechanical one, and in my eyes, because they broaden their offerings, brings them down a little bit. Not being provacative. Then again, both Breitling and Omega have their signature classics, the Navitimer and the Speedmaster. Maybe they are on the same level?

My view on TAG was that, it was always the brand that you went 'wowwww' when someone at school had one. When we all had Casio's and Timex's, your rich mate had the TAG given by his mum and dad. But by the same token it's the first often acheivable rung on the nice list - if you take their whole range into account?

King Rolex

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176 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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Legion said:
alfabadass said:
Rolex is the BMW of watches.
Spot on. Excellent design, great history (some like Vacheron have far more though), and above all the most powerful marketing machine in the premium watch world. I have one in my modest collection. But I see it for what it is.
Whilst you have Patek, Vacheron, Breguet at the top, and TAG, Omega at the lower scale of the premium, along with Brietling, Rolex hog just above the middle ground.

To the OP a few questions, not meant in a provacative way:

- Seadweller, lovely watch. Is it your first 'nice' watch?
- What do you think of the old Milgauss? Wouldn't you like one of those? Very exclusive!
- The current Omega Planet Ocean has some awesome stats. It's quite a substantial piece. How does it compare to your SD? Why makes Rolex so good in comparison to the other marques?
It's not my first "nice" watch.... my first was a Navitimer Olympus (sold) then I got a JLC master geographic in rose gold (sold) then i bought a Navitimer World (sold) then i bought a GMT "pepsi" (still have) and then i bought the SD. I wish i still had the JLC as it was a cool watch... i realised Breitlings are very Rugby Club type watches, glad i got out of them.

Love the old Milgauss, I also love the new ones. I think i GV would be cool, but then a "normal" black face would also cut the mustard (don't really like the white faced ones) when i get the cash together the next Rollie will be a DeepSea

I'm not keen on the PO's to be honest.... not too keen on any Omega since they let their image slip down a little.... they're watches that poor people save up and buy, bit like Tags. A PO can't hold a candle to an SD for quality.

I prefer the Rolex brand to all other makes due to their history and their quality designs. I can appreciate other makes.... they're just not my favorit though

okgo

38,366 posts

200 months

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Friday 2nd January 2009
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King Rolex said:
they're watches that poor people save up and buy
Who are you, Donald fking Trump?
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