Suez blocked by stuck ship!
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I imagine she’ll be heading back to Felixstowe sometime soon so will keep an eye out.
Interesting to think that when I took the picture of her earlier in this thread that she had that much damage under the waterline. At the time she sailed she was apparently empty of containers although I did witness quite a few being loaded at the stern, presumably with something heavy inside for reasons which later became obvious.
Interesting to think that when I took the picture of her earlier in this thread that she had that much damage under the waterline. At the time she sailed she was apparently empty of containers although I did witness quite a few being loaded at the stern, presumably with something heavy inside for reasons which later became obvious.
Simpo Two said:
spitfire-ian said:
At the time she sailed she was apparently empty of containers although I did witness quite a few being loaded at the stern...
Empty but loaded at the stern?
spitfire-ian said:
Simpo Two said:
spitfire-ian said:
At the time she sailed she was apparently empty of containers although I did witness quite a few being loaded at the stern...
Empty but loaded at the stern?She's in Rotterdam at the moment, due into Felixstowe on Boxing Day.
https://www.portoffelixstowe.co.uk/sailing-schedul...
https://www.portoffelixstowe.co.uk/sailing-schedul...
Ever Given documentary. BBC2 tonight.
You've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
You've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
The Mad Monk said:
Ever Given documentary. BBC2 tonight.
You've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
Not sure why the 2nd engineer from the ship behind got camera timeYou've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
. The legal fault lies with the master but the pilot stuffed it into the bank as he was giving the orders. Similar sized ships passed through the same point with the same gusting wind without mishap, the sole difference being going slower than the Ever Given.hidetheelephants said:
Not sure why the 2nd engineer from the ship behind got camera time. The legal fault lies with the master but the pilot stuffed it into the bank as he was giving the orders. Similar sized ships passed through the same point with the same gusting wind without mishap, the sole difference being going slower than the Ever Given.
You mean all 2nd engineers on dirty great big container ships don’t look like that? The ‘bank effect’ they talked about, is that the same thing as Bernoulli’s principle, fluid speeds up, pressure drops?. The legal fault lies with the master but the pilot stuffed it into the bank as he was giving the orders. Similar sized ships passed through the same point with the same gusting wind without mishap, the sole difference being going slower than the Ever Given.The Mad Monk said:
Ever Given documentary. BBC2 tonight.
You've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
Thanks. You've just missed it. Iplayer is the answer.
The Egyptians reckon it was the fault of the ship's captain and crew. I reckon it was the fault of the pilots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013p1f/why...
I'm watching it now and I'm a little bit in love with a ship's engineer.
wolfracesonic said:
You mean all 2nd engineers on dirty great big container ships don’t look like that? The ‘bank effect’ they talked about, is that the same thing as Bernoulli’s principle, fluid speeds up, pressure drops?
I don't remember much from my fluid dynamics lectures, probably; bank effect is a known ship handling phenomenon which has caused accidents before, given the shallowness of the canal 'squat' was probably involved too.hidetheelephants said:
wolfracesonic said:
You mean all 2nd engineers on dirty great big container ships don’t look like that? The ‘bank effect’ they talked about, is that the same thing as Bernoulli’s principle, fluid speeds up, pressure drops?
I don't remember much from my fluid dynamics lectures, probably; bank effect is a known ship handling phenomenon which has caused accidents before, given the shallowness of the canal 'squat' was probably involved too.Found the whole programme interesting but rather odd in that it seemed to not really have much of an opinion one way or another about anything.
wolfracesonic said:
You mean all 2nd engineers on dirty great big container ships don’t look like that? The ‘bank effect’ they talked about, is that the same thing as Bernoulli’s principle, fluid speeds up, pressure drops?
I think its along the lines that when it gets close to the bank, the water pressure does something that makes it get 'pulled' towards the side making the situation worse. Like when two trains pass each other, they lean towards each other rather than repel each other. KTF said:
I think its along the lines that when it gets close to the bank, the water pressure does something that makes it get 'pulled' towards the side making the situation worse. Like when two trains pass each other, they lean towards each other rather than repel each other.
^This.In a similar way, ou can get the same effect with canal barges in very shallow sections - if you give it too much throttle, you can effectively pull the water out from under the boat and stick it too the bottom of the cut.
Not just canal barges, it's a design consideration on these big canals and the ships that use them too.
It's the venturi effect, IIRC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
It's the venturi effect, IIRC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
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