Ship stuck on Bramble Bank.

[Mojocvh]

The thing is what made her list so severely that all they could do was beach her to save themselves?

[Gargamel]

Mojocvh said:

The thing is what made her list so severely that all they could do was beach her to save themselves?

Exactly, If it is re floated and the subsequently capsizes in the lane, then there really will be a problem.

[Mojocvh]

Seriously, looking at the two pictures above, if they portray what has happened, is the vessel structurally sound??

[hidetheelephants]

onyx39 said:

Wouldn't it make sense to remove the fuel, make the centre of gravity a little higher, and easier to refloat, or will 500 tonnes not make enough difference?

The oil is in tanks in the bottom of the hull helping keep her upright; the only ready means of stabilising/righting her is removing the ~4000 tonnes of cargo and filling all the ballast tanks.

[hornetrider]

Gargamel said:

Exactly, If it is re floated and the subsequently capsizes in the lane, then there really will be a problem.

Christ. Imagine the chaos and cost if Southampton port was inaccessible!

[arfur daley]

hornetrider said:

That's a bigger list than my last mot!

[bennyboydurham]

I recall from one of those 'Salvage Code Red' programmes on Discovery the importance of keeping water out of the engine room. They tried to save the ferry that ran aground off Blackpool beach and very nearly did so were it not for a big storm that blew in and eventually flooded her. Once seawater got in the engine room they wrote her off and she was broken up.

Edited by bennyboydurham on Monday 5th January 00:48

[davepoth]

bennyboydurham said:

I recall from one of those 'Salvage Code Red' programmes on Discovery the importance of keeping water out of the engine room. They tried to save the ferry that ran aground off Blackpool beach and very nearly did so were it not for a big storm that blew in and eventually flooded her. Once seawater got in the engine room they wrote her off and she was broken up.

Edited by bennyboydurham on Monday 5th January 00:48

Often a ship will be built around the engines - if they get ruined you'd be faced with stripping her back to the keel to get them replaced.

[Stevanos]

Nice drone footage here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csKtbdnCzag

[princealbert23]

Boatbuoy said:

Yes, very much so. Probably best viewed from Calshot Spit (opposite side of Southampton Water from the city itself).

It is a couple of miles down the road from me and a great view. Was very busy down there yesterday

[princealbert23]

eccles said:

Just wondering as I'm not a boaty type, Why are there so many vent chimney things on deck? Is it to get rid of all the exhaust fumes from the cars?

Are they vents or tanks of water to dowse any fire should the pumps not be working?

[FiF]

Is the list made worse as it appears as if it's listing on the slope from the bank towards a channel?

Still got power anyway, radar rotating.

Wouldn't recovery involve giant flotation bags? Not sure how they prevent it capsizing further as presumably the cargo has shifted.

[jamiebae]

The apparent bulge in the side is actually an illusion caused by the way the ship is painted. There's a diagonal section of dark paint on the side which looks like a hole or bulge but if you look at a high res pic it is clear that there's no external damage.

[ecsrobin]

Stevanos said:

Nice drone footage here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csKtbdnCzag

Illegal drone footage. Hopefully the CAA do more to crack down on this.

[CAPP0]

bennyboydurham said:

I recall from one of those 'Salvage Code Red' programmes on Discovery the importance of keeping water out of the engine room. They tried to save the ferry that ran aground off Blackpool beach and very nearly did so were it not for a big storm that blew in and eventually flooded her. Once seawater got in the engine room they wrote her off and she was broken up.

Would that be similar to the big storm which is due to blow in this week, according to the Beeb weather?

[blueST]

ecsrobin said:

Illegal drone footage. Hopefully the CAA do more to crack down on this.

In this case why? What harm is it doing?

[CAPP0]

ecsrobin said:

Illegal drone footage. Hopefully the CAA do more to crack down on this.

Struggling to see where the illegality was commissioned? I doubt the drone came within 50m of the ship. And in any case who's to say the drone operator is not licensed?

Best get the full Fun Police SWAT team out anyway though, just in case.

[ecsrobin]

CAPP0 said:

ecsrobin said:

Illegal drone footage. Hopefully the CAA do more to crack down on this.

Struggling to see where the illegality was commissioned? I doubt the drone came within 50m of the ship. And in any case who's to say the drone operator is not licensed?

Best get the full Fun Police SWAT team out anyway though, just in case.

He's operating within a TDA (Temporary Danger Area) which is sfc to 8,000ft with a 1nm radius centred from the ship.

The thing is I do enjoy these drone videos, but the owners need to take more responsibility for the rules of the air, for instance at Bournemouth airshow someone was flying one at height during displays again in restricted airspace and flying within 50m of a large crowd.

[DJFish]

These car carriers usually have quite complex ballasting arrangements because of the high superstructure, also (someone one more current than me will be able to confirm this) ballasting rules mean that ships often have to be clear of port before they start discharging dirty foreign crayfish infested ballast water, as was the case with the Cougar ace.
So it could well have been a ballasting snafu.

Fire fighting water would come from the ships service pumps or the emergency fire fighting pump which take water from the sea.

Ships generators can also recycle ballast water for cooling purposes so that's probably how the power's still on.

[stain]

I've exported cars using this method before so it would surprise me if there are privately owned vehicles mashed up on there too. When I last visited the docks there were dozens of Rollers, Bentleys and Land Rover products being loaded to be dropped off in the Middle East. This is gonna run and run.........