Mach Loop Typhoon ‘Incident’.
Discussion
Tony1963 said:
Let me get this right.
A handful of people here are saying it's ok to:
1. Fly an RAF Typhoon outside clearly defined rules. Rules that have been created so that when minor mistakes are made (pilots are human) newer versions of 1980s me don't have to go indentifying wreckage and pointing out gristle.
You sound like an expert.A handful of people here are saying it's ok to:
1. Fly an RAF Typhoon outside clearly defined rules. Rules that have been created so that when minor mistakes are made (pilots are human) newer versions of 1980s me don't have to go indentifying wreckage and pointing out gristle.
Narcisus said:
You’re an air crash investigator ! Fascinating !
Not an investigator, no. But I did attend crash sites to identify parts etc. At a mid-air in the Lakes between a Tornado and a Jag, it was a 23 year old me that found the crash recorder! I'd like to say happy times, but heavy drinking was one way through it all. Investating causes is a very different skill set.
Tony1963 said:
Not an investigator, no. But I did attend crash sites to identify parts etc. At a mid-air in the Lakes between a Tornado and a Jag, it was a 23 year old me that found the crash recorder! I'd like to say happy times, but heavy drinking was one way through it all.
Investating causes is a very different skill set.
There speaks the voice of ( actual ) experience. Hat’s off to you, I hope it wasn’t too gruesome.Investating causes is a very different skill set.
Tony1963 said:
Not an investigator, no. But I did attend crash sites to identify parts etc. At a mid-air in the Lakes between a Tornado and a Jag, it was a 23 year old me that found the crash recorder! I'd like to say happy times, but heavy drinking was one way through it all.
Investating causes is a very different skill set.
Indeed .... I once met an ex met ( sorry about that ) copper on holiday who’s son was an air crash investigator. The Mrs was a little neglected that week ! Incredibly interesting guy.Investating causes is a very different skill set.
Tony1963 said:
Not an investigator, no. But I did attend crash sites to identify parts etc. At a mid-air in the Lakes between a Tornado and a Jag, it was a 23 year old me that found the crash recorder! I'd like to say happy times, but heavy drinking was one way through it all.
Investating causes is a very different skill set.
Guy I worked with in the RAF was a fireman who went to the scenes of two seperate Canberra crashes. Largest body part he found was a head still in a helmet. Investating causes is a very different skill set.
He changed trades thereafter. Grim as fek.
I know guys who were on 'Crash and Smash' (recovering crashed aircraft and as much debris as possible) in the 80s. It was something you had to volunteer for, and if at any time at all you felt as though you'd had enough, the RAF found you a new posting. I've no idea what the set up is now, but it's not as though we are losing anywhere near as many aircraft each year.
silentbrown said:
El stovey said:
Are they people, I thought they were sheep or part of the stone wall. That must have been a great view.
I'm 99% sure they're people. That ridge is one of the lesser used routes down from Cader Idris, and I don't remember there being a wall there last time I used it. A fence, maybe.But many had gone up there with camping stoves, pop-up shelter tents, folding chairs and tables, an array of various lenses normally only seen in Jessops, and more specialist clothing than a regular mountain rescue team. Two old guys were arguing over a very small flat spot to set up a tripod, and missed a GR4 screaming past, wings vertical.
Like any hobby I guess there are those that talk it to the extreme and are very passionate/anal about it.
I do some voluntary work messing with the old planes at Manchester airports viewing park, the spotters can get very territorial and b
hy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.
hy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.J4CKO said:
I do some voluntary work messing with the old planes at Manchester airports viewing park, the spotters can get very territorial and bhy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.
'Plane spotters', like most hobbyists are nested fractally. There is no bottom, just a further level of weirdness.hy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.I like aircraft. I always have. I have a licence, and take my kids to airshows, but jeez, some of those guys take it a bit too far.
LimaDelta said:
J4CKO said:
I do some voluntary work messing with the old planes at Manchester airports viewing park, the spotters can get very territorial and bhy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.
'Plane spotters', like most hobbyists are nested fractally. There is no bottom, just a further level of weirdness.hy, they love to look down on spotters with inferior photography kit, seems weird to me, spotters looking down on other spotters, if you are a plane spotter then you generally get looked down upon by the rest of humanity anyway.S11Steve said:
It's the ridge at Cad West - I was up there at the end of the August with the kids. We took a Costa and muffin each, a hat, and a phone. Got some pretty good photos and video clips in the hour we were up there.
I made the wife sit there for a few hours maybe 8 years ago now (nowhere near long enough ago to be a veteran I'm sure), the day after she'd dragged me up Snowden and back. After a few hours seeing nothing but something big and slow (Hercules perhaps) I made a mental note that Wales was too cold for shorts even in summer and we left.No drama other than a bit of bickering because the previous day she hadn't told me she'd frozen our water bottles. Instead of glacier cool water on the way up we just thirstily carried several kilos of ice. I for one am glad the loop is returning to a quiet place reserved for intramarital torture.
aeropilot said:
If you think plane spotters are weird, you've seen nothing until you get down the pecking order to bus spotters.....!!!!
Lemming Train said:
There are bus spotters?! WTF! 
It gets worse than that.There are manhole cover spotters.
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