Would you fly on a 737 Max?

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tobinen

9,291 posts

147 months

Thursday 3rd December 2020
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AA puts on a demonstration flight for the press yesterday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/12/02/am...

rjfp1962

7,883 posts

75 months

Thursday 3rd December 2020
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About a week ago Brazil ended it's ban on the Max too.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max-br...


craigjm

18,143 posts

202 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Ryanair have just ordered a bunch more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55177846

Piginapoke

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4,845 posts

187 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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craigjm said:
Ryanair have just ordered a bunch more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55177846
I hope they got a good deal tongue out

MarkwG

4,888 posts

191 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Piginapoke said:
craigjm said:
Ryanair have just ordered a bunch more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55177846
I hope they got a good deal tongue out
You can bet on that smile

rjfp1962

7,883 posts

75 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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And loads of people will fly on them too!

aeropilot

35,058 posts

229 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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rjfp1962 said:
And loads of people will fly on them too!
With the name change process in place by Boeing and the airlines to remove the word Max from all documentation etc, only a plane geek will know what they are getting on (or not) by engine nacelle shape/design.

The Max will be erased from history to save Boeing's bacon.



CallThatMusic

2,623 posts

90 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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aeropilot said:
rjfp1962 said:
And loads of people will fly on them too!
With the name change process in place by Boeing and the airlines to remove the word Max from all documentation etc, only a plane geek will know what they are getting on (or not) by engine nacelle shape/design.

The Max will be erased from history to save Boeing's bacon.
I’d hope not. Suspect you are right.

Chuck328

1,583 posts

169 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Give it a good few months of trouble free operation ( which i suspect will thankfully be highly likely) and this entire tragic episode will indeed start to be confined to history.

Aviation, like many things is littered with disasters. We learn, never forget but move on.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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CallThatMusic said:
I’d hope not. Suspect you are right.
It’s already happened.

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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aeropilot said:
With the name change process in place by Boeing and the airlines to remove the word Max from all documentation etc, only a plane geek will know what they are getting on (or not) by engine nacelle shape/design.

The Max will be erased from history to save Boeing's bacon.
Tail cone too.

craig1912

3,421 posts

114 months

aeropilot

35,058 posts

229 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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craig1912 said:
In normal circumstances, this wouldn't even rate a mention in news bulletins.......

However, as far as the Max is concerned, the slightest minor incident will be news worthy given the media attention on its RTS.

Monkeylegend

26,688 posts

233 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Eric Mc said:
aeropilot said:
With the name change process in place by Boeing and the airlines to remove the word Max from all documentation etc, only a plane geek will know what they are getting on (or not) by engine nacelle shape/design.

The Max will be erased from history to save Boeing's bacon.
Tail cone too.
Only if it has an exemplary safety record from now on.

CeramicMX5ND2

7,883 posts

75 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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737 Max gets EU clearance to fly again.. UK to do the same too..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55827358

CanAm

9,392 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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CeramicMX5ND2 said:
737 Max gets EU clearance to fly again.. UK to do the same too..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55827358
From that article, Sully says:-

Celebrated aviation safety campaigner Captain Chesley Sullenberger - one of the pilots who safely landed an engineless Airbus plane in the Hudson river in New York in 2009 - also believes that modifications to the Max do not go far enough.

He says changes are needed to warning systems aboard the plane, which were carried over from a previous version of the 737 and are "not up to modern standards".

CeramicMX5ND2

7,883 posts

75 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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CanAm said:
CeramicMX5ND2 said:
737 Max gets EU clearance to fly again.. UK to do the same too..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55827358
From that article, Sully says:-

Celebrated aviation safety campaigner Captain Chesley Sullenberger - one of the pilots who safely landed an engineless Airbus plane in the Hudson river in New York in 2009 - also believes that modifications to the Max do not go far enough.

He says changes are needed to warning systems aboard the plane, which were carried over from a previous version of the 737 and are "not up to modern standards".
And Sullenberger will be listened to - I'm still amazed at his calmness of the potentially fatal situation he prevented.

An ex- Boeing employer has voiced his own concerns too...

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/aviation-airline...

havoc

30,332 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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You'd hope Boeing would realise the stakes - if another Max goes down anytime soon, after they've allegedly fixed it, that'll be the death-knell for that model.

Of course, they could be a bunch of super-arrogant jerks who think they're so big and powerful they can get away with anything...
(Hell, it worked for the bankers...)

aeropilot

35,058 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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havoc said:
You'd hope Boeing would realise the stakes - if another Max goes down anytime soon, after they've allegedly fixed it, that'll be the death-knell for that model.

Of course, they could be a bunch of super-arrogant jerks who think they're so big and powerful they can get away with anything...
It's be the death knell for Boeing as well......

But, I think the latter view is the one Boeing is adopting.....




CeramicMX5ND2

7,883 posts

75 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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UK regulators have now allowed operators to resume their use of the 737 Max (BBC News)
Will be sometime before we see how safe it now is due to Covid-19 travel restrictions....!