Three Men in Another Boat

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Schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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biglepton said:
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
Not being a sailor, I enjoyed it very much. I can see how it could have annoyed the sailing fraternity, but I thought it represeneted the sport well to wannbies. And I suppose its generally healthy to attract people to any sport.

Unless youre over-protective about it.

Thought he weas wrong throwing the paper into the water last night though!
It will upset many yotties because they generally take themselves and their sport far too seriously anyway, as a quick wander round the RYS, CCYC or the RLYC in my home town will attest! I particularly like the Sunday sailors parading up Cowes High Street in mid-summer in their perfectly matching oilies despite the hot sun, in order to prove how arduous the 3 mile sail (mostly under power!) was across the light chop from Hamble! tongue out
hehe

Most of the people at RLYC / RYS don't sail anyway!

How long have you lived in Lymington for? I was brought up there & still return most weekends for sailing or to see old school friends...

Rum Runner

2,338 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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biglepton , could not agree more .
The ego and B.S which surrounds some of the south coast yachting scene is shocking . Much better in other parts of the U.K ( or better still world)and more so Southern Ireland , Where they mostly can sail properly ( go out of the marina / bay /solent)and let that do the talking instead and can laugh at themselves and have good time .

Edited by Rum Runner on Thursday 3rd January 17:21

Mahatma Bag

27,428 posts

281 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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biglepton said:
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
Not being a sailor, I enjoyed it very much. I can see how it could have annoyed the sailing fraternity, but I thought it represeneted the sport well to wannbies. And I suppose its generally healthy to attract people to any sport.

Unless youre over-protective about it.

Thought he weas wrong throwing the paper into the water last night though!
It will upset many yotties because they generally take themselves and their sport far too seriously anyway, as a quick wander round the RYS, CCYC or the RLYC in my home town will attest! I particularly like the Sunday sailors parading up Cowes High Street in mid-summer in their perfectly matching oilies despite the hot sun, in order to prove how arduous the 3 mile sail (mostly under power!) was across the light chop from Hamble! tongue out
smile You are right. Although the JOG racing lot are very down to earth.

Most pretentious people I have seen were in Salcombe. Forget wearing oilies around town, down there they wear LIFE JACKETS as they swagger up the high street. You know that inside they are screaming "OIKS! LOOK AT ME! I HAVE A YACHT! FNAW, FNAW, FNAW"!


biglepton

5,042 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Schmalex said:
hehe

Most of the people at RLYC / RYS don't sail anyway!

How long have you lived in Lymington for? I was brought up there & still return most weekends for sailing or to see old school friends...
I've never lived in Lymington! The Royal London Yacht Club and the Royal Yacht Squadron have always been in Cowes as far as i can remember! smile

biglepton

5,042 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Rum Runner said:
biglepton , could not agree more .
The ego and B.S which surrounds some of the south coast yachting scene is shocking . Much better in other parts of the U.K ( or better still world)and more so Southern Ireland , Where they mostly can sail properly ( go out of the marina / bay /solent)and let that do the talking instead and can laugh at themselves and have good time .

Edited by Rum Runner on Thursday 3rd January 17:21
I wouldn't change it for a minute! I love pottering round in my motorboat and being scowled at continuously by yotties who most of the time use their engines more than I do! Mind you, it takes me 4 minutes to get to my boat - if I had to drive from the home counties in a Friday rush hour, fall onto a cold damp sailing boat and then get up on Saturday morning at way too early O' clock before spending an hour getting out of Chi or down the Hamble before I could see the sea, I'd be in a bad mood when i eventually got to Cowes at 5 knots! wink

Schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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biglepton said:
Schmalex said:
hehe

Most of the people at RLYC / RYS don't sail anyway!

How long have you lived in Lymington for? I was brought up there & still return most weekends for sailing or to see old school friends...
I've never lived in Lymington! The Royal London Yacht Club and the Royal Yacht Squadron have always been in Cowes as far as i can remember! smile
boocks!! I read RLYC as Royal Lymington Yacht Club - doh!!!

Sheets Tabuer

19,128 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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I loved that boat, what would be the smallest boat you could do winter trips to the med in?

I'm talking not a lot of people to crew it but could bugger off anywhere.

Schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I loved that boat, what would be the smallest boat you could do winter trips to the med in?

I'm talking not a lot of people to crew it but could bugger off anywhere.
Probably around 40ft would be the smallest I would want to take across Biscay

Mahatma Bag

27,428 posts

281 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Schmalex said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I loved that boat, what would be the smallest boat you could do winter trips to the med in?

I'm talking not a lot of people to crew it but could bugger off anywhere.
Probably around 40ft would be the smallest I would want to take across Biscay
Bah, Joshua Slocum sailed a homemade 36 foot boat around the world by himself, his only navigational aid being an old pocketwatch.

Robin K-J sailed a 32 foot wooden boat solo around the world too, without stopping.

wink

Sheets Tabuer

19,128 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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I'd like some comfort wink

But not be stuck for days on end with people I hate because I need a crew. The more that can be done with the fewer amount of people the better.

Hard-Drive

4,102 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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littlegreenfairy said:
Thought this programme was a very poor show and didn't reflect well on the sport at all. They were incompetant at the best, and at the worst down right dangerous.

Stunning shots of the sea though wink
Agree with that...the radio stunt was stupid, CH16 or not, declaring an "emergency" was just daft.

GRJ did not have his lifejacket done up for a lot of it...wear it properly or don't wear it at all I was always told. I thought following the Ouzo incident and enquiry, him prancing about in a unsecured lifejacket whilst running a story on yotties getting in the way of ferries was a bit, well, uncalled for.

Sorry, although I found it very entertaining it just sucked of the modern dumbing down of TV these days. I just bloody hate the way everything is such a fix, from perfectly dressed and made up people answering the door in one of those annoying "look round other people's houses" programmes to the "we allow one hour of tinkering" in Scrapheap Challenge where magically a fully approved FIAA rollcage and plumbed in fire extuinguisher system appears.

If GRJ was really that close to that Thames barge then I suggest he gets some more training...obviously the production team said "get really close, it will entertain the morons" in much the same way as the dubbed-in "splintering wood going aground noises" and the "pour a cup of scalding cold water down your front whilst pretending to make tea" scene (anyone else spot just how little the gimballed oil-lamp was moving on the bulkhead whilst the comedy 1960's style Starship Enterprise run from one side to the other was being acted out?)

I would be gobsmacked if the production team invovled in this were not also involved in Top Gear...let's have 3 middle aged likeable buffoons generally cocking around in an entertaining way with a few fixed stunts along the way to keep Joe Public amused...

If they want proper "dangerous stunts" why not just film the state of most us getting back from The Folly...hehe

XJSJohn

15,981 posts

221 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Hard-Drive said:
If they want proper "dangerous stunts" why not just film the state of most us getting back from The Folly...hehe
rofl ahh been a few years but that brings back some memories that does biggrin

Along with the dodgem ride back from the bar at the Atlantic Hotel, Braye

drunk

getting flasbacks of drunken days gone by ... Newtown Creek too hehe

Edited by XJSJohn on Friday 4th January 06:21

tank slapper

7,949 posts

285 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Schmalex said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I loved that boat, what would be the smallest boat you could do winter trips to the med in?

I'm talking not a lot of people to crew it but could bugger off anywhere.
Probably around 40ft would be the smallest I would want to take across Biscay
Plenty of people circumnavigate in smaller boats than that though. I'd rather be in a decent long-keeled 30 footer than a flimsy 40 foot "cruiser/racer" type thing. It really depends on what level of comfort (or lack of) you are prepared to put up with. Of course if I had my choice, a Halberg-Rassy 54 would do nicely - went aboard one and thought it was rather nice. smile



Edited by tank slapper on Friday 4th January 18:17

Nic Jones

7,072 posts

222 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Painful to watch eh?

I think they had a bit of sneaky practice they didn't show us though.... wink

Sheets Tabuer

19,128 posts

217 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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tank slapper said:
Schmalex said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I loved that boat, what would be the smallest boat you could do winter trips to the med in?

I'm talking not a lot of people to crew it but could bugger off anywhere.
Probably around 40ft would be the smallest I would want to take across Biscay
Plenty of people circumnavigate in smaller boats than that though. I'd rather be in a decent long-keeled 30 footer than a flimsy 40 foot "cruiser/racer" type thing. It really depends on what level of comfort (or lack of) you are prepared to put up with. Of course if I had my choice, a Halberg-Rassy 54 would do nicely - went aboard one and thought it was rather nice. smile



Edited by tank slapper on Friday 4th January 18:17
Now that is a lovely boat, not bloody cheap either, mind you I don't think the mrs would go for bunks.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

285 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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I like them because they don't go in for the everything as shiny and bling as possible - the interior:







No bunks here. smile

If I ever had the money I would buy one to live on without the shadow of a doubt.

Edited by tank slapper on Friday 4th January 22:54

Sheets Tabuer

19,128 posts

217 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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That it exactly the sort of thing, the idea of a boat is actually to be alone so how much of these could be automated?

Just need to sell the idea to the mrs, I have two houses sitting doing sod all so I might be able to suggest a mobile home as a swap to the mrs albiet a floating one. what would the yearly maintenance on such a craft be?

tank slapper

7,949 posts

285 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Sheets Tabuer said:
That it exactly the sort of thing, the idea of a boat is actually to be alone so how much of these could be automated?

Just need to sell the idea to the mrs, I have two houses sitting doing sod all so I might be able to suggest a mobile home as a swap to the mrs albiet a floating one. what would the yearly maintenance on such a craft be?
A boat that big might be interesting to sail single handedly, but there's no reason why you couldn't do it. I don't know how much it would cost to run that, but I imagine that it would be fairly substantial. Berthing would probably be the highest cost, especially if you do your own maintenance as far as possible, but it would depend on what sort of use you put it to. I am sure there are people on here who could give you a better idea.

If you are thinking about live aboard cruising, there are loads of articles here about most aspects of it.

village idiot

3,160 posts

269 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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us lymingtonites aren't all namby-pamby quba sails wearing fairies

the link below (found in the yachting friendly lotus forum) refers to a recent post x'mas jaunt into mid-channel in a good bf9... 6m+ waves certainly sorted out the men from the boys here!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

see you all at the boatshow!

XJSJohn

15,981 posts

221 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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Tank Slapper, one thing to factor into your globe trotting daydreaming planning is that if you are planning on spanding much time in the Indian Ocean, SE Asia, South China Sea, Northern Oz, Or Central Pacific is that those sort of boats are hell to live on. (think Equitorial Sun, Doldrums weather patterns and 85 - 95% humidity, but some of the best cruising grounds in the world ... )

Its a real Catch 22, but European designed boats (Especially Scandi ones) are designed to keep everything out because where they are traditionally used its 'effin cold, 'effin wet and 'effin windy.

As such they dont have much by way of ventilation and all that woodwork realy starts to sweat so that you end up with a sailing Sauna (also Scandinavian built)

scratchchin hmmm this has gone off on a tangent ..... biggrin