Roll call, who has flown Concorde?

Roll call, who has flown Concorde?

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spydersingh

697 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Maybe not flown in but I do drive by every morning!

Its parked up on the A30 by Hatton Cross/Terminal 4/BA Hangers.

Its amazing how small it really is when parked next to the being Boeing/Airbus planes.

speedchick

5,186 posts

224 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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There is also one in Edinburgh and one at Manchester Airport and one at Filton.

Have never flown in one, but I do know a couple of the ex captains, a flight engineer and one of the guys that got his hands dirty keeping them maintained.

Eric Mc

122,214 posts

267 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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And the very first British prototype G-BSST (the 2nd Concorde to fly) at Yeovilton.

The original French prototype (F-WTSS) is preserved at Le Bourget.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

263 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Dirty Boy said:
that's quite remarkable

How many tonnes of fuel did they actually carry in total?

2 tonnes just to taxi!
I'm not sure, but it used about the same amount of fuel to fly to JFK as an early 747.

Civpilot

6,235 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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stuart-b said:
Reading Wikipedia...

wikipedia said:
Due to jet engines being highly inefficient at low speeds, Concorde burned two tonnes of fuel taxiing to the runway.[17] To conserve fuel only the two outer engines were run after landing. The thrust from two engines was sufficient for taxiing to the ramp due to low aircraft weight upon landing at its destination. A Concorde once ran out of fuel taxiing to the terminal after a flight; the pilot was dismissed
Erm... I don'tthink he was actually. In fact If my memory is correct he was actually commended for bringing the plane in text book despite the critical fuel state (That was already known about in the very late stages of the flight). Be very interested in exact details you have on the story as I havent heard of the one wikipedia states?

My Dad was one of the Operation's managers for BA back in the day in charge of long haul flights including Concorde. He flew on her a couple of times, the git.

I only managed the one flight.


Sciroccology

29,908 posts

232 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Dirty Boy said:
2 tonnes just to taxi!
I once had a Series III Land Rover with similar MPG.

RB Will

9,676 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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I have flown on her once. got to go look in the cockpit too.

Gruppe1875

1,943 posts

201 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Sciroccology said:
Dirty Boy said:
2 tonnes just to taxi!
I once had a Series III Land Rover with similar MPG.
laugh

DJC

23,563 posts

238 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Justayellowbadge said:
NDA said:
There's a Concorde at Brooklands of course.....
yes

Been on that one.
Did you go round the rest of the Brooklands aero museum and realise just what exactly you were looking at? That Brooklands is such a massive part of British aviation history is hardly known is an amazement to me considering who worked there and what came out of the place.

Then again if you listen to the "experts" they seem happy to perpetuate the "Farnborough or bust" myth.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Sadly something I never got round to, but have been on the one at Duxford when I was much younger - does that count? frown

Just thinking aloud, I bet I'd pay upwards of £20k for a ride now - such a shame BA killed it.

NDA

21,715 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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DJC said:
Justayellowbadge said:
NDA said:
There's a Concorde at Brooklands of course.....
yes

Been on that one.
Did you go round the rest of the Brooklands aero museum and realise just what exactly you were looking at? That Brooklands is such a massive part of British aviation history is hardly known is an amazement to me considering who worked there and what came out of the place.

Then again if you listen to the "experts" they seem happy to perpetuate the "Farnborough or bust" myth.
I've been to Brooklands a few times - I always find it a little melancholic to be honest to see those planes just grounded there....

Akers

463 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Yep, got to go up on the flight deck too, as I was only 10! biggrin

Badapple

2,265 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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sa_20v said:
Sadly something I never got round to, but have been on the one at Duxford when I was much younger - does that count? frown

Just thinking aloud, I bet I'd pay upwards of £20k for a ride now - such a shame BA killed it.
what was the cost back then?

Chainguy

4,381 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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sa_20v said:
Sadly something I never got round to, but have been on the one at Duxford when I was much younger - does that count? frown

Just thinking aloud, I bet I'd pay upwards of £20k for a ride now - such a shame BA killed it.
BA didn't kill it. Air France did. The deal always was that when one flag carrier retired their aircraft, then the other had to as well within a pre set time frame. That was written in stone from the time the aircraft were delivered. It was further backed up by the fact that all engineering spares support would be curtailed upon winding the fleet down. Which rather makes a mockery of Mr beardy wierdy Bransons cheap publicity stunt of offering to run Concorde. He knew he couldn't. But hey, publicity - no matter how cheap - has always been his thing.

The minute Air France pulled the plug, she was doomed. Sad, as she was both making money and (the British ones at least) were in excellent mechanical condition.

V8S

8,582 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Isn't it role call?

Not been in Concorde myself, but know someone who has.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Chainguy said:
sa_20v said:
Sadly something I never got round to, but have been on the one at Duxford when I was much younger - does that count? frown

Just thinking aloud, I bet I'd pay upwards of £20k for a ride now - such a shame BA killed it.
BA didn't kill it. Air France did. The deal always was that when one flag carrier retired their aircraft, then the other had to as well within a pre set time frame. That was written in stone from the time the aircraft were delivered. It was further backed up by the fact that all engineering spares support would be curtailed upon winding the fleet down. Which rather makes a mockery of Mr beardy wierdy Bransons cheap publicity stunt of offering to run Concorde. He knew he couldn't. But hey, publicity - no matter how cheap - has always been his thing.

The minute Air France pulled the plug, she was doomed. Sad, as she was both making money and (the British ones at least) were in excellent mechanical condition.
Ta - thanks for the refresher - but why exactly was a plane that was financial viable and mechanically sound removed from service - it makes no sense! So rather than continue to develop a fine aircraft, air travel is now another area where the human race has recently regressed. rolleyes

Chainguy

4,381 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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In short, the deal was, when struck back in the 1970's, was that the other flag carrier had to retire the aircraft within a set time of the other withdrawing the fleet.

It was a non negotiable clause.

As for the BA fleet, the were in fantastic shap when retired. The last set of deep NDE checks showed airframes which were the equivalent in fatigue of a 4 year old 737.

As for the one that crashed, that was caused by both some debris on the runway left by an American jet, and poor maintenance by the French ground crew;they never refitted a stabiliser bar the night before the fatal take off, so the aircraft was unstable when under acceleration. The crash investigation team likened it to a supermarket trolley, the way the wheels wobbled.

Adios old girl. You're missed. Badly.

Edited by Chainguy on Thursday 28th August 12:03

sa_20v

4,108 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Been asked before, probably be me, but is there any chance we'll ever see Concorde back in the air?

Chainguy

4,381 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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sa_20v said:
Been asked before, probably be me, but is there any chance we'll ever see Concorde back in the air?
Impossible. No engineering support now exists. Patterns and parts have been skipped, basically.

So no, she will never do a Vulcan and return to the skies.

benjdr

189 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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I flew from Bristol to Toronto on Concorde when I was 11.
I was too young too appreciate it I think; wish I had another opportunity.