How Many PHers Living Afloat?
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Rum Runner said:
Speedyellow yep saw you here.One of the 72's is still here . My sister was on Barclays, not sure what that boat is called now. I also have one of the British Steel 2 crew coming to stay this Sat with us . He has since bought a swan a been round again !!!.I know a lot of the lads from early day's of the challenge. Some top people .
Interested to hear what think of the 72's,never sailed one myself but had a look round, looks proper to me though.Plus i have bit of soft spot for Rob's designs.
I've spent a lot of time sailing on Challenge boats (and just about everything else) and love the 72's, the best way to think of them is a 67 that's built for real racing and with all the irritations of the 67 fixed (like having a proper snake pit and downwind performance!). As with all Challenge boats, no one has ever built such robust yachts and sadly probably not going to for a long time to come. Even get some of the Volvo 70 guys admiring the fact you can just go for it, whatever the conditions and not sit worrying about what might break.Interested to hear what think of the 72's,never sailed one myself but had a look round, looks proper to me though.Plus i have bit of soft spot for Rob's designs.
Barclays (I know the old skipper very well) is the only one of the 12 not to be back in the water and in some form of use, it is still parked in Lymington on the hard waiting for the owner to decide what to do with it.
As for what do we do for money! Most of us work on the boats for living, I take people sailing from single days to transatlantic adventures, next crossing is the 15th March back to the UK via the Azores.
SpeedYellow said:
Rum Runner said:
Speedyellow yep saw you here.One of the 72's is still here . My sister was on Barclays, not sure what that boat is called now. I also have one of the British Steel 2 crew coming to stay this Sat with us . He has since bought a swan a been round again !!!.I know a lot of the lads from early day's of the challenge. Some top people .
Interested to hear what think of the 72's,never sailed one myself but had a look round, looks proper to me though.Plus i have bit of soft spot for Rob's designs.
I've spent a lot of time sailing on Challenge boats (and just about everything else) and love the 72's, the best way to think of them is a 67 that's built for real racing and with all the irritations of the 67 fixed (like having a proper snake pit and downwind performance!). As with all Challenge boats, no one has ever built such robust yachts and sadly probably not going to for a long time to come. Even get some of the Volvo 70 guys admiring the fact you can just go for it, whatever the conditions and not sit worrying about what might break.Interested to hear what think of the 72's,never sailed one myself but had a look round, looks proper to me though.Plus i have bit of soft spot for Rob's designs.
Barclays (I know the old skipper very well) is the only one of the 12 not to be back in the water and in some form of use, it is still parked in Lymington on the hard waiting for the owner to decide what to do with it.
As for what do we do for money! Most of us work on the boats for living, I take people sailing from single days to transatlantic adventures, next crossing is the 15th March back to the UK via the Azores.
Rower
SpeedYellow said:
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As for what do we do for money! Most of us work on the boats for living, I take people sailing from single days to transatlantic adventures, next crossing is the 15th March back to the UK via the Azores.
would love to do something like this, in conjunction with the diving the other half wants to do. As for what do we do for money! Most of us work on the boats for living, I take people sailing from single days to transatlantic adventures, next crossing is the 15th March back to the UK via the Azores.
do you have a base in the UK, or are you on ship 24/7?
Burba, first thing to do is get some qualifications and a few miles under your belt if you have not already.
One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
Edited by Rum Runner on Tuesday 17th March 17:12
Rum Runner said:
Burba, first thing to do is get some qualifications and a few miles under your belt if you have not already.
One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
that's some good info there RR - what would be the costs involved in starting up something like this? One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
Edited by Rum Runner on Tuesday 17th March 17:12
Also, how easy is it for someone in the UK to come across and setup in the BVI/Caribbean?
Hi Burba
Average running costs are 10% annual of purchase price. These Cats are quite cheap to run, we used to call them 'wash and goes'.If you are half handy they will cost you very little to run.
They charter for around 10-14k USD for a week.Previsioning cost vary to where you are but would say 2-2.5K per week. But if you are good you should get most or all of that back in tips.
In my opinion the offer the best return on your capital investment of any boat on the market.( prices are also very steady as they are good value to start with so depreciation is marginal when bought used).
You need to contact me via e-mail if serious and i can give you more info set up cost depending where you base yourself.
There is a presently a great one for sale, I found the boat for the owner in the first place. Its had lot of extras put on, its fully set up and running as a business and registered to a clearing house, so marketed properly. Has BVI trade license ( which are painful to get) etc. etc and is well know with brokers.It has been a successful well run boat.
The owner is from U.K ( friend of mine )and he is a classic buff and engineer so the boat is mint.It was only a few years old when he bought it and was in super condition then. I did have the survey somewhere.
Its the newer version of the 4500 ,the 4700 same boat longer bottom step on the transom gives you the 2ft extra and slightly different shaped dinning table but thats about it .
http://www.cyabrochure.com/eb/727/rpr/1956/1
Contact me if interested.
The price is right also, keen to sell as he need to be back in U.K.!!!
Also Burba if you don't want to buy there are always owners of this style of boat looking for crew,you will find most BVI based crewed boats are cats from about 40-70ft.
Have to say though these are about the only boat i would sink my money into.
Note:- The girls hate cooking at 30 degree angle, which in-turn makes your ears bleed.Cats rule for his job.
Average running costs are 10% annual of purchase price. These Cats are quite cheap to run, we used to call them 'wash and goes'.If you are half handy they will cost you very little to run.
They charter for around 10-14k USD for a week.Previsioning cost vary to where you are but would say 2-2.5K per week. But if you are good you should get most or all of that back in tips.
In my opinion the offer the best return on your capital investment of any boat on the market.( prices are also very steady as they are good value to start with so depreciation is marginal when bought used).
You need to contact me via e-mail if serious and i can give you more info set up cost depending where you base yourself.
There is a presently a great one for sale, I found the boat for the owner in the first place. Its had lot of extras put on, its fully set up and running as a business and registered to a clearing house, so marketed properly. Has BVI trade license ( which are painful to get) etc. etc and is well know with brokers.It has been a successful well run boat.
The owner is from U.K ( friend of mine )and he is a classic buff and engineer so the boat is mint.It was only a few years old when he bought it and was in super condition then. I did have the survey somewhere.
Its the newer version of the 4500 ,the 4700 same boat longer bottom step on the transom gives you the 2ft extra and slightly different shaped dinning table but thats about it .
http://www.cyabrochure.com/eb/727/rpr/1956/1
Contact me if interested.
The price is right also, keen to sell as he need to be back in U.K.!!!
Also Burba if you don't want to buy there are always owners of this style of boat looking for crew,you will find most BVI based crewed boats are cats from about 40-70ft.
Have to say though these are about the only boat i would sink my money into.
Note:- The girls hate cooking at 30 degree angle, which in-turn makes your ears bleed.Cats rule for his job.
Edited by Rum Runner on Wednesday 18th March 15:13
Rum Runner said:
Burba, first thing to do is get some qualifications and a few miles under your belt if you have not already.
One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
Sopers Hole ?One bit of advice if you have another half is to look at smaller boats, so you skipper and the good lady is chef and Dive Master.
This is a better way of life if you are not single, it means you still have a life of your own, a good bit of the time .
There are many options for this time job one of the best places to start this is working for the Moorings on the one of there crewed yachts ( Cats are by far best to work on). Its the industry standard of how to run a small charter boat, so to speak.
The money is also quite good, not like Sunsail. Voyage Charters are also a good starting point..
BVI is one of the main places for this type of charter,easy to do the job there to.
Yes you live on board and it is basically your home, which means 95% of what you get in your pay slip never gets used.If you are busy you build up a good supply of food and drink to see you through the weeks when not chartering.
Here is a example , this one of a few i ran back in 2000-2001. Great boats !!
Hope this helps
Edited by Rum Runner on Tuesday 17th March 17:12
Tis that! Sopers.
Rower i just looked at your website.I see you do St.Lucia in the overseas section.I am loosely involved in www.bluereefrealestate.com ,not sure if you deal with them or not, but they are not on your listing.They are probably best on Island ,and Maria is German so is rather efficient.
Rower i just looked at your website.I see you do St.Lucia in the overseas section.I am loosely involved in www.bluereefrealestate.com ,not sure if you deal with them or not, but they are not on your listing.They are probably best on Island ,and Maria is German so is rather efficient.
Edited by Rum Runner on Wednesday 18th March 15:41
Rum Runner said:
Tis that! Sopers.
Rower i just looked at your website.I see you do St.Lucia in the overseas section.I am loosely involved in www.bluereefrealestate.com ,not sure if you deal with them or not, but they are not on your listing.They are probably best on Island ,and Maria is German so is rather efficient.
I will go anywhere for a fee ! But most of my trade is done in SW London. My website is part of a large Portal that carries property world wide . Funily enough I have just had an email from a company asking me to sell some proerties on Tobago, an Island I really like....maybe someone is trying to tell me something !!Rower i just looked at your website.I see you do St.Lucia in the overseas section.I am loosely involved in www.bluereefrealestate.com ,not sure if you deal with them or not, but they are not on your listing.They are probably best on Island ,and Maria is German so is rather efficient.
Edited by Rum Runner on Wednesday 18th March 15:41
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