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stew-S160

8,006 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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just 3-

SR71
F16
A10

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Today my favourite aircraft is the Fairey Fulmar - just because I am almost finished building a model of it. Tomorrow my favourite is possibly going to be the Hawker Typhoon - as I think that might be my next project (or perhaps a Mosquito - I haven't decided yet).

Tomlev40

351 posts

182 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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1.

My Great-Grandad was a navigator in the Pathfinders with this.
2.

Forgotten Russian tank buster.
3.

Probably the best carrier-bourne aircraft of WW2.
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Edited by Tomlev40 on Sunday 5th July 18:32

tmk2

708 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Such a hard choice but will have to be
1 English Electric lightning
2 SR71 Blackbird
3 de Havilland Vampire

FourWheelDrift

88,739 posts

286 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Avro Vulcan
Lockheed Super Constellation
Hawker Sea Fury

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Tomlev40 said:
1.

My Great-Grandad was a navigator in the Pathfinders with this.
2.

Forgotten Russian tank buster.
3.

Probably the best carrier-bourne aircraft of WW2.
ETA: Spelling mistake

Edited by Tomlev40 on Sunday 5th July 18:32
The Zero might have been the best carrier borne fighter in 1941 but it definitely wasn't by 1943. I would say that the best carrier borne fighter of the war was the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
The F4U Corsair was a close second and possibly could be ranked as even better only for the fact that the US Navy (unlike the Fleet Air Arm) were hesitant to put it on their carriers.
By the way, the Zero shown in your picture is in Japanese Army Avation colours. Naval Zeros were painted white (despite what was shown in the film "Pearl Harbor").

The most effective Royal Navy fighter in the early part of the war was, surprisingly, the Fairey Fulmar which, although outclassed by single seat fighters, which it rarely encountered, was pretty effective against bombers and patrol aircraft.



Tomlev40

351 posts

182 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Tomlev40 said:
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Probably the best carrier-bourne aircraft of WW2.


Edited by Tomlev40 on Sunday 5th July 18:32
The Zero might have been the best carrier borne fighter in 1941 but it definitely wasn't by 1943. I would say that the best carrier borne fighter of the war was the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
The F4U Corsair was a close second and possibly could be ranked as even better only for the fact that the US Navy (unlike the Fleet Air Arm) were hesitant to put it on their carriers.
By the way, the Zero shown in your picture is in Japanese Army Avation colours. Naval Zeros were painted white (despite what was shown in the film "Pearl Harbor").

The most effective Royal Navy fighter in the early part of the war was, surprisingly, the Fairey Fulmar which, although outclassed by single seat fighters, which it rarely encountered, was pretty effective against bombers and patrol aircraft.
Great, but opinions, opinions. Anyway at the start of the war it had better pilots than the Americans. At Pearl Harbour and Midway they thrashed the American pilots very easily. Though they were lightly armoured, but heavily armed. 2 machine guns and 2 cannons. Plus they could carry bombs as well.

Wow only 158 posts and I'm arguing with Eric Mc wink

Edited by Tomlev40 on Sunday 5th July 20:11

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Not an oipinion - a fact. By the middle of the war American fighter design had moved beyond the capabilities of the Zero. The Zero was too lightly armoured to withstand hits from 50mm bullets and cannon shells. Once the Americans were able to put up serious oppostion, the Zero's days were numbered.

Don't forget, the Japanese themselves were trying to replace the Zero with new generation fighters. Unfortunately for them, they didn't have the industrial might to get these new aircraft into production in large enough quantities.

Here's some of their later, more advanced designs -

Mitsubishi JM-2 Raiden



Kawanishi K1N Shiden



Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien



All these aircraft (and more) were evolved to replace the obsolete A6M Zero.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

197 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Vulcan, so graceful, one of the best sounding planes along with the hunter and spitfire.

Typhoon, Power, performance, looks dangerous, agile. After seeing one leave vertically from RAF Leuchars (obviously to ps off the F3 drivers) I was very very very impressed. Never seen anything climb as fast.

F4 Phantom for being big and brutal.

On another day the answer could have consisted of one to three of the following; Hunter, Su-27, Mil-24, Chinook, Apache, Spitfire, SR-71, Viggen and Bone. Better luck next time.


Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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1. Spitfire
2. Harrier GR1
3. Mosquito

Dunk76

4,350 posts

216 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Blackburn Buccaneer - if it looks right, it normally is.

Bristol Blenheim - again, a beautiful looking thing.

Hawker Hurricane - overshadowed by it's more glamourous Supermarine counterpart. But has a beauty all of it's own.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

197 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
By the way, the Zero shown in your picture is in Japanese Army Avation colours. Naval Zeros were painted white (despite what was shown in the film "Pearl Harbor").
Up until 1943 they were white, after that they were IJN Green with light grey undersurfaces, usually with a brown or bare metal spinner and yellow ID stripes.

An example of the scheme is on display at the Smithsonian, where the aircraft was repainted in colours of an IJN Zero captured at Saipan.

http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?st...

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Aha - presumably because they were carrying out more operations from land bases rather tahn the diminishing number of Japanese aircraft carriers.

Certainly at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack all Japanese naval aircraft were white - so the movie is definitely wrong.

"Tora Tora Tora" got it completely right.

Tomlev40

351 posts

182 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Aha - presumably because they were carrying out more operations from land bases rather tahn the diminishing number of Japanese aircraft carriers.

Certainly at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack all Japanese naval aircraft were white - so the movie is definitely wrong.

"Tora Tora Tora" got it completely right.
You really go on about the colour white and the Fairey Fulmar quite a bit don't you. wink


Edited by Tomlev40 on Monday 6th July 17:36

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Why not?

Tomlev40

351 posts

182 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Why not?
Can get a bit annoying.
You're not in the wrong but still.

Edited by Tomlev40 on Monday 6th July 17:39

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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If you are annoyed - sorry. That wasn't my intention. But I'm not going to change my ways. I'm too old for that.

Now, about the Fulmar - did you know that five RN pilots became aces flying it?

Tomlev40

351 posts

182 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
If you are annoyed - sorry. That wasn't my intention. But I'm not going to change my ways. I'm too old for that.

Now, about the Fulmar - did you know that five RN pilots became aces flying it?
Really (Guys, break out the nunchucks!)

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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It's also a rather attractive bird



My next project is to bore you all about the Fairey Barracuda smile

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

197 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Aha - presumably because they were carrying out more operations from land bases rather tahn the diminishing number of Japanese aircraft carriers.

Certainly at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack all Japanese naval aircraft were white - so the movie is definitely wrong.

"Tora Tora Tora" got it completely right.
Tora Tora Tora is my least favourite film of all time.

Poor Catalinas frown