Extinct aircraft

[Yertis]

Surely "extinct" must mean they no longer exist, at all.

Maybe not.

[aeropilot]

Yertis said:

Surely "extinct" must mean they no longer exist, at all.

That's why the DH Hornet got my vote.

[kiteless]

SlipStream77 said:

Blackbird
Victor
Princess flying boat
F111

Took the words out of my mouth

Especially WRT the Saunders-Roe Princess.

[dudleybloke]

voodoo

[Ed5995]

victor, trident and vanguard

[CelicaGT]

SR-71
B-58 Hustler
F-111
B-36
Boeing Clipper
Concorde
Convair 880/990
Tu-144

That's all I can think of for now...

[Dr Jekyll]

Yertis said:

Surely "extinct" must mean they no longer exist, at all.

Maybe not.

I called the thread 'extinct aircraft' because it's a snappier title than 'aircraft no longer flying' but I meant extinct as flying examples.

[Eric Mc]

The F-111 is not extinct - yet. The Aussies are still flying them - although not for much longer.

In fact, according to Wiki, TODAY is the last day of operational flying for the F-111 in Oz.

[GTO Scott]

Another vote for TSR-2 here.

As for properly extinct aircraft, the Avro CF-105 Arrow.

[Yertis]

Dr Jekyll said:

Yertis said:

Surely "extinct" must mean they no longer exist, at all.

Maybe not.

I called the thread 'extinct aircraft' because it's a snappier title than 'aircraft no longer flying' but I meant extinct as flying examples.

Jesus that's a huge list, I'd guess much bigger than the list of types actually flying.

[Eric Mc]

Yertis said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Yertis said:

Surely "extinct" must mean they no longer exist, at all.

Maybe not.

I called the thread 'extinct aircraft' because it's a snappier title than 'aircraft no longer flying' but I meant extinct as flying examples.

Jesus that's a huge list, I'd guess much bigger than the list of types actually flying.

Agreed.

There really are some very successful aircraft which were built in substantial numbers but which do not exist in any meaningful form AT ALL. They genuinely are extinct.

[aeropilot]

Eric Mc said:

In fact, according to Wiki, TODAY is the last day of operational flying for the F-111 in Oz.

Actually by our time, it was yesterday There was a last flypast of a formation of 7 Pig's over Amberley, although the weather was a bit claggy apprentley.

So, that's it....the Pig is now history, and this won't ever be seen again

[MartG]

Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Martin B-26 Marauder ( not sure if there is one of these still flying in the US )
TSR.2
Avro Arrow
B-70 Valkyrie
Concorde
EE Lightning
Canberra

[Eric Mc]

MartG said:

Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Martin B-26 Marauder ( not sure if there is one of these still flying in the US )
TSR.2
Avro Arrow
B-70 Valkyrie
Concorde
EE Lightning
Canberra

I don't think "not flying" equals extinct (not really). "Extinct" means "not in existence". Examples of all the aircraft (apart from the Arrow) you have listed still exist - sometimes quite a few.

A B-26 was restored to flying condition in the 1980s but sadly crashed fatally in the 1990s.

[Dr Jekyll]

Eric Mc said:

MartG said:

Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Martin B-26 Marauder ( not sure if there is one of these still flying in the US )
TSR.2
Avro Arrow
B-70 Valkyrie
Concorde
EE Lightning
Canberra

I don't think "not flying" equals extinct (not really). "Extinct" means "not in existence". Examples of all the aircraft (apart from the Arrow) you have listed still exist - sometimes quite a few.

A B-26 was restored to flying condition in the 1980s but sadly crashed fatally in the 1990s.

With animals 'extinct' doesn't mean not in existence, but not alive. John Cleese's complaint about his parrot wasn't that it didn't exist, and the existence of a fossilised somethingsaurus doesn't make it less extinct. So for aircraft I think 'extinct' is a reasonable shorthand for 'not flying anymore'.

Anyway it's my thread and I meant 'not flying anymore'.

[Eric Mc]

Fight

We'll have to differ on this one.

I really would like to see, in the flesh, flying or otherwise, aircraft which really have vansihed off the face of the earth. I'm looking forward to the raising of the Dornier Do17 off the floor of the English Channel next year.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd December 14:18

[Yertis]

Eric Mc said:

MartG said:

Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Martin B-26 Marauder ( not sure if there is one of these still flying in the US )
TSR.2
Avro Arrow
B-70 Valkyrie
Concorde
EE Lightning
Canberra

I don't think "not flying" equals extinct (not really). "Extinct" means "not in existence". Examples of all the aircraft (apart from the Arrow) you have listed still exist - sometimes quite a few.

A B-26 was restored to flying condition in the 1980s but sadly crashed fatally in the 1990s.

And there's a Black Widow on the way back, should be flying soon.

[aeropilot]

MartG said:

Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Martin B-26 Marauder ( not sure if there is one of these still flying in the US )

There is a technically flight capable B-26 in the USA...Kermit Weeks's one, but it hasn't flown in a long time now, and there has to be a question mark over whether it will ever fly again...?

We are though, gradually getting closer to seeing a P-61 Black Widow in the air again one day with the continuing progress being made on the Mid Atlantic Air Museum example.
See here
http://www.maam.org/p61.html

[Dr Jekyll]

Eric Mc said:

I really would like to see, in the flesh, flying or otherwise, aircraft which really have vansihed off the face of the earth.

I agree with you there, that's a separate list.

[MOTORVATOR]

Dr Jekyll said:

Eric Mc said:

I really would like to see, in the flesh, flying or otherwise, aircraft which really have vansihed off the face of the earth.

I agree with you there, that's a separate list.

Yes, but you can't tell me that Eric wouldn't be suffering with one those involuntary discharge thingies similar to what happens when he views his VBH collection if he found out the lightning was to display over here.