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Gwagon111 said:
To be serious for a minute..... About a quarter of a mile down the track, we were forced to stop by uniformed goons in a truck
To be honest, the US security get a little iffy here too. I live near RAF Molesworth and occasionally walk along the public footpath that runs along its perimeter and right up to one of the disused gates. The first time I did it a SUV on US Airforce plates turned up external to the gate and just sat about 100yds away in a small layby. The last few times there has been another SUV parked up near my car when I get back to it, usually driven by a shaven headed big fella in sunglasses. They need to know that this is my country and unless I cross over the fence they can feck right off!
tonyvid said:
To be honest, the US security get a little iffy here too. I live near RAF Molesworth and occasionally walk along the public footpath that runs along its perimeter and right up to one of the disused gates. The first time I did it a SUV on US Airforce plates turned up external to the gate and just sat about 100yds away in a small layby. The last few times there has been another SUV parked up near my car when I get back to it, usually driven by a shaven headed big fella in sunglasses. They need to know that this is my country and unless I cross over the fence they can feck right off!
Write them a letter. Green ink, the works.As someone posted earlier get a copy of "Skunk Works" by Leo Janos and Ben Rich.
It talks about how in the early 1950s the CIA needed some where to test the then secret U-2. So a Lockheed pilot filed a flight plan claiming he was off whale spotting for the Navy when in reality he was looking for a suitable dry lakebed. He tested the strength of the lake bed by dropping cast iron balls onto the surface and measuring the size of the impact crater.
IIRC the CIA financed the construction of the airbase by giving Kelly Johnson (U-2 Chief designer) a personal cheque for $1,300,000 and told him to get on with it.
It talks about how in the early 1950s the CIA needed some where to test the then secret U-2. So a Lockheed pilot filed a flight plan claiming he was off whale spotting for the Navy when in reality he was looking for a suitable dry lakebed. He tested the strength of the lake bed by dropping cast iron balls onto the surface and measuring the size of the impact crater.
IIRC the CIA financed the construction of the airbase by giving Kelly Johnson (U-2 Chief designer) a personal cheque for $1,300,000 and told him to get on with it.
BarnatosGhost said:
tonyvid said:
To be honest, the US security get a little iffy here too. I live near RAF Molesworth and occasionally walk along the public footpath that runs along its perimeter and right up to one of the disused gates. The first time I did it a SUV on US Airforce plates turned up external to the gate and just sat about 100yds away in a small layby. The last few times there has been another SUV parked up near my car when I get back to it, usually driven by a shaven headed big fella in sunglasses. They need to know that this is my country and unless I cross over the fence they can feck right off!
Write them a letter. Green ink, the works.
Let your son have a play on google maps. Hi-res sat photo on google maps
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
mrmaggit said:
Dangerous2 said:
Area 52 is where it's at now...
Also Known as White Sands Test Area.Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 14th February 16:30
rhinochopig said:
Let your son have a play on google maps. Hi-res sat photo on google maps
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
Nice link,surprised the street view don`t work though http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
havoc said:
Eric Mc said:
Area 51 is far more interesting if you concentrate on teh REAL projects that have been undertaken there rather than UFO bufoonery.
Of which, I'm a little out of touch but has anyone established whether either Aurora or the TR3 genuinely exist?
Eric Mc said:
No - but probably because they didn't. There has always been a fair amount of dis-information spread about concerning "Black Projects".
Very true. One of the "Have Blue" prototypes was photographed by a plane spotter and it was widely thought to be an aliencraft/UFO. The USAF were more than happy to let the tin foil hat brigade believe this as it took publicity away from the truth.The Skunk works (skonk works ) book is worth a read
There use to be a guy who had a great page on all of it called Tom Mahood, i think the website has gone but he has contributed stuff to various websites and possibly books, took a balanced view of it all and found some interesting things, no little green men but interesting stuff
) book is worth a readThere use to be a guy who had a great page on all of it called Tom Mahood, i think the website has gone but he has contributed stuff to various websites and possibly books, took a balanced view of it all and found some interesting things, no little green men but interesting stuff
On Red Flag our crews were briefed to use Groom Lake as a diversion airfield in an emergency. They could land, taxi to the end of the runway and shutdown but were to remain in the aircraft with the canopy shut till someone arrived. Quickly, it was hoped because it gets pretty damn hot under perspex in the desert.
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