Tsunami aftermath - clean up

[scubadude]

mcdjl said:

Excepting the rather large boat there seems to be surprisingly little damage in that picture- the telegraph pole etc is intact which just seems incongruous.

One thing I noticed watching the coverage of this is that telephone poles and very hardy, most clips shows the water flowing around them, cars/houses/ships bouncing off them etc... okay the wires often got broken and exchanges flooded but telephone poles (it would seem) are rather robost in the face of extreme flooding!

Feel abit sorry for Japan, I see a Volcano has now erupted in the South-West to add insult to injury.

(A colleague of mine somewhat uncharitably speculated that depending on the home port nature might have dealt the Whaling fleet a bigger blow than all the years of protesting, will certainly have knocked the fishing in the North East for a while!)

[jamhop]

does anybody know of any construction or salvage companys going out there to help with the clean up , im a 360 excavator driver

[Simpo Two]

The scammers are a bit late - I just got two of these:

HELP TSUNAMI VICTIMS, HELP TSUNAMI VICTIMS.

THE RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL AMSTERDAM, THE UNITED KINGDOM ZONE HEREBY
APPEALLING TO YOU FRIENDS,PUBLIC,FAMILIES AND COMPANIES, TO HELP US WITH
ONLINE FUND RAISING TO ENABLE US TREAT OVER MILLION AFFECTED WITH
QUAKE/TSUNAMI DISASTER ACROSS JAPAN.VISIT WWW.CNN.COM TO SEE WHY YOUR
HELP/MONEY IS HIGHLY NEEDED.

HELP THE NEEDY,POOR AND SICK,NO AMOUNT IS SMALL FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFULL
GIVER. IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THE SENDING OF THE RELIEF FUNDS TO THE NEEDY
URGENTLY, YOU ARE ADVISED TO SEND US YOUR DONATION/CONTRIBUTION IN HOLLAND
BY EXPRESS MONEYGRAM TRANSFER SERVICES ( www.moneygram.com ) OR WESTERN
UNION MONEY TRANSFER ( www.westernunion.com ) THROUGH THE NAME OF OUR
FINANCIAL OFFICERS MRS ( kIA ROONEY ) AND MR ( NEIL CARLSON ) IN UK
RESPECTIVELY.

YOU ARE ADVISED TO RESPOND BACK TO US THROUGH THIS EMAIL ADDRESS AND PROVIDE
US WITH THE TRANSFER DETAILS INCLUDING YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS ON OUR OFFICIAL
E-MAIL ADDRESS:[e-mail]

N.B,DONATORS FROM 100 TO 4500 EUROS WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR NAMES APPEARED IN
OUR RELIEF MAGAZINES AND WEBSITES WHILE THOSE DONATIONS ABOVE ( 5000 EUROS)
TO ANY AMOUNT WILL HAVE A SPACE FOR THEIR FOTOS,NAMES AND BUSINESS ADVERTS
IN OUR MAGAZINES AND WEBSITES AS DOES IN THE PAST YEARS.FOR THE LATER (VIP)S
PLEASE SEND US YOUR FOTOS AND BUSINESS DETAILS.

WE AWAITS YOUR URGENT RESPONSE AND THANKS FOR YOUR CO-OPERATIONS AND
GENEROSITY TO MANKIND.

YOURS SINCERELY,

JANZEN HALL

[BoRED S2upid]

maniac0796 said:

I just can't comprehend how you clean something like that up. Where does it all go, how do you start again?

They cleared the mess created by 9/11. It will take a lot longer but it can be done.

[db]

BoRED S2upid said:

maniac0796 said:

I just can't comprehend how you clean something like that up. Where does it all go, how do you start again?

They cleared the mess created by 9/11. It will take a lot longer but it can be done.

they cleared the mess created by Little Boy and Fat Man, Kobe earthquake, Great Kantô earthquake...
they'll manage one way or another. HUGE task tho

[thatone1967]

Simpo Two said:

The scammers are a bit late - I just got two of these:

HELP TSUNAMI VICTIMS, HELP TSUNAMI VICTIMS.

THE RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL AMSTERDAM, THE UNITED KINGDOM ZONE HEREBY
APPEALLING TO YOU FRIENDS,PUBLIC,FAMILIES AND COMPANIES, TO HELP US WITH
ONLINE FUND RAISING TO ENABLE US TREAT OVER MILLION AFFECTED WITH
QUAKE/TSUNAMI DISASTER ACROSS JAPAN.VISIT WWW.CNN.COM TO SEE WHY YOUR
HELP/MONEY IS HIGHLY NEEDED.

HELP THE NEEDY,POOR AND SICK,NO AMOUNT IS SMALL FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFULL
GIVER. IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THE SENDING OF THE RELIEF FUNDS TO THE NEEDY
URGENTLY, YOU ARE ADVISED TO SEND US YOUR DONATION/CONTRIBUTION IN HOLLAND
BY EXPRESS MONEYGRAM TRANSFER SERVICES ( www.moneygram.com ) OR WESTERN
UNION MONEY TRANSFER ( www.westernunion.com ) THROUGH THE NAME OF OUR
FINANCIAL OFFICERS MRS ( kIA ROONEY ) AND MR ( NEIL CARLSON ) IN UK
RESPECTIVELY.

YOU ARE ADVISED TO RESPOND BACK TO US THROUGH THIS EMAIL ADDRESS AND PROVIDE
US WITH THE TRANSFER DETAILS INCLUDING YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS ON OUR OFFICIAL
E-MAIL ADDRESS:[e-mail]

N.B,DONATORS FROM 100 TO 4500 EUROS WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR NAMES APPEARED IN
OUR RELIEF MAGAZINES AND WEBSITES WHILE THOSE DONATIONS ABOVE ( 5000 EUROS)
TO ANY AMOUNT WILL HAVE A SPACE FOR THEIR FOTOS,NAMES AND BUSINESS ADVERTS
IN OUR MAGAZINES AND WEBSITES AS DOES IN THE PAST YEARS.FOR THE LATER (VIP)S
PLEASE SEND US YOUR FOTOS AND BUSINESS DETAILS.

WE AWAITS YOUR URGENT RESPONSE AND THANKS FOR YOUR CO-OPERATIONS AND
GENEROSITY TO MANKIND.

YOURS SINCERELY,

JANZEN HALL

This makes me SO fking angry

[Simpo Two]

I am very impressed with the stoical way the Japanese are dealing with this.

We in the West are starting to panic because they are not panicking, and closing down our nuclear power stations even though we are nowhere near an earthquake zone.

To paraphrase one Japanese official, 'After Hiroshima and Nagaski we can cope with anything'.

It is interesting to see how different races/cultures deal with crises.

Asians just get on with it.

Westerners write to their MPs.

Africans wait for somebody to come and help them.

Arabs start shouting and firing AK47s into the air.

[Beardy10]

lankybob said:

I cant see how the insurance companies can pay for all of this, they just wont have enough money for it.

Insurance companies aren't stupid and have unbelievably deep pockets...the Fukushima Power Station was not covered for Earthquake or Tsunami damage for starters.

Obviously the insurance companies most impacted would be the Japanese ones but they swap some of that risk with insurance companies in other parts of the world that also have earthquake risk...say California. In return they buy some of the California risk from the American Insurance companies. It's called the Natural Catastrophe market of "Nat Cat" for short.

[RobDickinson]

From wiki:
Japan
The government of Japan created the "Japanese Earthquake Reinsurance" scheme in 1966, and the scheme has been revised several times since.[1][2] Homeowners may buy earthquake insurance from an insurance company as an optional rider to a fire insurance policy.[3] Insurers enrolled in the JER scheme who have to pay earthquake claims to homeowners share the risk among themselves and also the government, through the JER. The government pays a much larger proportion of the claims if a single earthquake causes aggregate damage of over about 1 trillion yen (about US $8.75 billion). The maximum payout in a single year to all JER insurance claim filers is 4.5 trillion yen (about US $39.4 billion); if claims exceed this amount, then the claims are pro-rated among all claimants.[4]


So looks like a possible $40bn cap?

[JonnyFive]

It's incredible the amount they've done, but also the amount of complete loss..



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099811/El...

[TheHeretic]

Where are they putting it all?

[remedy]

TheHeretic said:

Where are they putting it all?

It's being vaporised by frikkin' laser beams

[TheHeretic]

remedy said:

TheHeretic said:

Where are they putting it all?

It's being vaporised by frikkin' laser beams

[Mojocvh]

RobDickinson said:

From wiki:
Japan
The government of Japan created the "Japanese Earthquake Reinsurance" scheme in 1966, and the scheme has been revised several times since.[1][2] Homeowners may buy earthquake insurance from an insurance company as an optional rider to a fire insurance policy.[3] Insurers enrolled in the JER scheme who have to pay earthquake claims to homeowners share the risk among themselves and also the government, through the JER. The government pays a much larger proportion of the claims if a single earthquake causes aggregate damage of over about 1 trillion yen (about US $8.75 billion). The maximum payout in a single year to all JER insurance claim filers is 4.5 trillion yen (about US $39.4 billion); if claims exceed this amount, then the claims are pro-rated among all claimants.[4]


So looks like a possible $40bn cap?

The one they are funding their whaling with as well?

[TheHeretic]

Mojocvh said:

The one they are funding their whaling with as well?

No they aren't.

Already had a thread on that subject

[Mojocvh]

Oh Reilly?

http://blog.sfgate.com/yaki/2011/12/13/japan-tsuna...

http://digitaljournal.com/blog/14368

http://www.muracco.com/2011/12/japan-spends-28-mil...

However never mind that, why don't you go and find out just what the residents of Fukushima Daiichi district are doing to help themselves out, like home made detectors so they can sieve their garden soil.....

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2011/12...

[TheHeretic]

Mojocvh said:

Oh Reilly?

http://blog.sfgate.com/yaki/2011/12/13/japan-tsuna...

http://digitaljournal.com/blog/14368

http://www.muracco.com/2011/12/japan-spends-28-mil...

However never mind that, why don't you go and find out just what the residents of Fukushima Daiichi district are doing to help themselves out, like home made detectors so they can sieve their garden soil.....

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2011/12...

That is a different scheme. The Japanese government are using public funds towards the whaling, but it has not come from any donations, as some of your articles state, and and nor did the original letter by Greenpeace et al stated. That didn't stop the hysteria though. The 'confirmation' in one of the stories isn't a confirmation at all.

As for the folks of Fukishima, you come across as though I have slighted them somewhat.