Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 1)

Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 1)

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NDA

21,725 posts

227 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Burnedout said:
Another Kiwi:

The 'different' looking rear section of the cockpit - is that a rear gun?

Burnedout

478 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Burnedout said:
I presume this is a genuine period shot. It depicts the early P-40Cs used by the American Volunteer Group who were fighting against the Japanese in China BEFORE America offiscially entered the wear against Japan.
That's the 'Tigers' in China.

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Technically known as the American Volunteer Group (as I said). Their popular name was "The Flying Tigers".

After the war, their leader, Claire Chennault, founded a freight airline called Flying Tigers. Flying Tigers continued in operation up until the 1980s when they were absorbed by one of the modern parcel delivery companies.

Regarding the shot of the Grumman Avenger, yes indeed, that bulbous "glass" dome at the rear of the cockpit canopy is the power operated gun turret. The gunner installed within operated a .50 calibre machine gun.

FourWheelDrift

88,743 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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More Lake District images on here - http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php...

Burnedout

478 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Another one from Aberley this year.

Edited by Burnedout on Wednesday 12th November 03:14

Burnedout

478 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Technically known as the American Volunteer Group (as I said). Their popular name was "The Flying Tigers".

After the war, their leader, Claire Chennault, founded a freight airline called Flying Tigers. Flying Tigers continued in operation up until the 1980s when they were absorbed by one of the modern parcel delivery companies.

Regarding the shot of the Grumman Avenger, yes indeed, that bulbous "glass" dome at the rear of the cockpit canopy is the power operated gun turret. The gunner installed within operated a .50 calibre machine gun.
All very true Chennault did some pretty good stuff during the War.

Burnedout

478 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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F-14 getting busy:


Burnedout

478 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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RAF Avenger:


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Technically known as the American Volunteer Group (as I said). Their popular name was "The Flying Tigers".

After the war, their leader, Claire Chennault....
yikes


In my experience, women called Claire tend to be alarmingly aggressive (not that I wish to generalise). So a man called Claire, presumably with a lot to prove and a chip on his shoulder, must have been seriously scary.

matmoxon

5,026 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
That colour scheme on the Aussie Hawk is disgusting. Is it the final scheme or is it just primer?
Primer.

Matt

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Technically known as the American Volunteer Group (as I said). Their popular name was "The Flying Tigers".

After the war, their leader, Claire Chennault, founded a freight airline called Flying Tigers. Flying Tigers continued in operation up until the 1980s when they were absorbed by one of the modern parcel delivery companies.
I thought he started what went on to be 'Air America', covertly run by the CIA

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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matmoxon said:
Eric Mc said:
That colour scheme on the Aussie Hawk is disgusting. Is it the final scheme or is it just primer?
Primer.

Matt
Thank goodness for that. Looking further along the thread, I noticed an Aussie Hawk in the ubiqitous overall matt grey colour scheme which I presume is the standard scheme. How boring.
At least RAF Hawks are a bit more interesting tyo look at.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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matmoxon said:
Eric Mc said:
That colour scheme on the Aussie Hawk is disgusting. Is it the final scheme or is it just primer?
Primer.

Matt
Sure it's not Gloss rofl

Sorry, not had my first coffee yet getmecoat

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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dougc said:
Also, this is really really cool

:salutes:

wheres the "this thread is worthless without the dambusters music...smiley"

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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rhinochopig said:
matmoxon said:
Eric Mc said:
That colour scheme on the Aussie Hawk is disgusting. Is it the final scheme or is it just primer?
Primer.

Matt
Sure it's not Gloss rofl

Sorry, not had my first coffee yet getmecoat
I've had my first Nescafe of the day so I'm rarin' to go.

NDA

21,725 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Regarding the shot of the Grumman Avenger, yes indeed, that bulbous "glass" dome at the rear of the cockpit canopy is the power operated gun turret. The gunner installed within operated a .50 calibre machine gun.
Thanks for that. I wonder if the tail section was ever in danger of being peppered?

xiphias

5,888 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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NDA said:
Eric Mc said:
Regarding the shot of the Grumman Avenger, yes indeed, that bulbous "glass" dome at the rear of the cockpit canopy is the power operated gun turret. The gunner installed within operated a .50 calibre machine gun.
Thanks for that. I wonder if the tail section was ever in danger of being peppered?
Professor Henry Jones: [accidentally shoots their own plane with the machine gun]
Indiana Jones: Dad, are we hit?
Professor Henry Jones: More or less. Son, I'm sorry. They got us.

hehe

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Such turrets were very common on WW2 aircraft. Nearly all the British heavy bombers had them as did two odd looking fighters, the Boulton Paul Defiant and the Blackburn Roc. The aircraft were fitted with a simple "blocking" device to prevent the gun from firing when pointing directly at the tail fin.

The Defiant was not particularly successful as a day fighter but when transferred to night fighting duties they did a worthwhile job until replaced by better aircraft such as the Beaufighter or Mosquito.

The Roc was based on the turretless Blackburn Skua and was singularly useless.






Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 12th November 09:26

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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I read a book recently "Bomber Boys" and the british bomber crews said that their 50 cal guns were pretty much there just to make them feel better

pretty ineffective, and at night just gave the germans something to aim at when they saw the tracer fire, they said they often didn't use them even when fighters were in sight

Eric Mc

122,276 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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They were even more useless because for most of the war, British bombers (and fighters) were equipped with smaller calibre .303s. It was only towards the end of the war that Britsih turrets began to be fitted with .5s.

The main role of the turret occupants in night bombers was to act as lookouts and yell evasion instructions to the pilot.
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