Why do airline passengers always look so scruffy nowadays ?
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Me and my mates got a cheap flight to Bangkok in the early 90s.
Tarom Air, a Romanian airline. All the boys and girls on board were dressed in shorts, flipflop, little dresses etc. Basically beach clubbing.
It was December and the plane left Luton and headed for Bucharest. It landed in a blizzard -20 degrees at night.
We were herded off to stand on the runway in freezing conditions with next to nothing on, to wait for a bus for at least 20 mins.
I learned my lesson then
Tarom Air, a Romanian airline. All the boys and girls on board were dressed in shorts, flipflop, little dresses etc. Basically beach clubbing.
It was December and the plane left Luton and headed for Bucharest. It landed in a blizzard -20 degrees at night.
We were herded off to stand on the runway in freezing conditions with next to nothing on, to wait for a bus for at least 20 mins.
I learned my lesson then
I dress for comfort I'm afraid (why wouldn't you?!), joggers, t-shirt, Converse and a hoody, even the wife; who always worries about what she looks like, dresses similarly on a long haul flight, neither of us would be seen dead in that kind of attire normally, apart from where appropriate; ie exercising!
I dress for comfort too but my old man who has been flying since the 60's always goes full bifta, suit, tie and waistcoat. I find it quite quaint but I guess it stems from the fact that flying used to be quite a special occasion when he was younger, people would often dress smartly for it and he's just never got out of the habit.
Conversely whenever we fly together, he seems a bit disappointed that I don't make more of an effort!
Conversely whenever we fly together, he seems a bit disappointed that I don't make more of an effort!
I'm all for comfort but wearing joggers in public is a step too far - people might mistake you for a genuine oik. I have plenty, but only for the house and gym surely. A casual passerby might even come to the conclusion you posses the ultimate fashion faux pas - the the 3 quarter length jogging bottom!
The trouser of choice has to be stretch jeans. Replay Hyperflex for ultimate comfort whilst still cutting an elegant silhouette
The trouser of choice has to be stretch jeans. Replay Hyperflex for ultimate comfort whilst still cutting an elegant silhouette
Junior Bianno said:
I'm all for comfort but wearing joggers in public is a step too far - people might mistake you for a genuine oik. I have plenty, but only for the house and gym surely. A casual passerby might even come to the conclusion you posses the ultimate fashion faux pas - the the 3 quarter length jogging bottom!
The trouser of choice has to be stretch jeans. Replay Hyperflex for ultimate comfort whilst still cutting an elegant silhouette
Lol, what even is the point of those! The trouser of choice has to be stretch jeans. Replay Hyperflex for ultimate comfort whilst still cutting an elegant silhouette
I do wear decent joggers; Nike with only a very small logo, they are tapered to a cuff and not light grey and my hoody doesn't match, plus no chav wears Chuck Taylor All Stars (colour to be decided on the day as I have rather a large selection), if any of that makes a difference!?
Edited by HTP99 on Tuesday 27th February 17:49
Always business casual. Even going on vacation.
I fly a lot and there is no predicting who I will meet on the plane or in the airport. I would say I run into a business acquaintance on about 15% of my flights.
Obviously do not wear a jacket when seated, but generally a long sleeved shirt and pants. not jeans. Shoes, not Nikes.
I fly a lot and there is no predicting who I will meet on the plane or in the airport. I would say I run into a business acquaintance on about 15% of my flights.
Obviously do not wear a jacket when seated, but generally a long sleeved shirt and pants. not jeans. Shoes, not Nikes.
RDMcG said:
Always business casual. Even going on vacation.
I fly a lot and there is no predicting who I will meet on the plane or in the airport. I would say I run into a business acquaintance on about 15% of my flights.
Obviously do not wear a jacket when seated, but generally a long sleeved shirt and pants. not jeans. Shoes, not Nikes.
Serious question then, why do you feel you need to be smart when seeing business acquaintance, even when going on holiday? I fly a lot and there is no predicting who I will meet on the plane or in the airport. I would say I run into a business acquaintance on about 15% of my flights.
Obviously do not wear a jacket when seated, but generally a long sleeved shirt and pants. not jeans. Shoes, not Nikes.
As an oik, and a millennial oik at that, the need for sts or being smart arnt as important as they used to be and it's easier to find common ground and get to know someone when relaxed.
Condi said:
Serious question then, why do you feel you need to be smart when seeing business acquaintance, even when going on holiday?
As an oik, and a millennial oik at that, the need for sts or being smart arnt as important as they used to be and it's easier to find common ground and get to know someone when relaxed.
It a fair question. I do a not of work with investors , lawyers and so on and part of that is that you move into business conversation very quickly. It’s just more comfortable and make things flow. As an oik, and a millennial oik at that, the need for sts or being smart arnt as important as they used to be and it's easier to find common ground and get to know someone when relaxed.
Joggers and a hoodie tomorrow. 12+ hours on a plane, any plane, is enough. I do understand that some like to do business in airports and I do hear all sorts of deals being done before, during and after journeys in lounges etc. I guess it depends on the industry you work in, modern tech business is very little about personalities IMHO, some of the biggest bds I have ever met have also delivered some of the best work, the old adage of you have to like someone to do business with them, or my own personal 80's favourite, 'people buy from people' are totally outdated. So. head in my laptop and a decent book 'Talking with Psychopaths and Savages' (Christopher Berry-Dee) and then a bunch of downloads or movies. The sooner it's over the better. Bloody 50's technology, about time someone invented transporters
yonex said:
I guess it depends on the industry you work in, modern tech business is very little about personalities IMHO, some of the biggest bds I have ever met have also delivered some of the best work, the old adage of you have to like someone to do business with them, or my own personal 80's favourite, 'people buy from people' are totally outdated.
O/T, but I couldn’t disagree more. I design and deploy secure Cisco networks for mid-large Corporates / Hospitals / Universities / etc... A good salesman alongside who is personable, knows when to push it and knows when to shut up, will always do better than some socially inept moron who doesn’t know their product. It’s almost never the sales person who delivers the solution, that’s what engineers and consultants are for, so IMHO their (good!) personalities are very much an essential part of the sales cycle. If you have a brilliant idea but are saddled with an awkward person with no Sales skills trying to sell it, you’ll get nowhere.ApOrbital said:
I wore crappy ripped jeans dirty white trainers crappy cheap t-shirt 1st class to new york.i did not care what people thought of me.
Best attitude.As someone else alluded to, it's a bus in the sky. No matter what class it is, given the choice I'd rather be anywhere but stuck in a small tube full of other people.
I wear loose fitting joggers and a hoodie. If I see anyone the same I assume its likely they are well versed in dealing with the horror that is modern day airline travel.
12 hours+ flights and folk are going straight to a business meeting? I'd personally prefer to go to the hotel and change out of my fart infused clothes that I have become nose blind to.
We often go straight into a business meeting upon landing. Particularly in the Far East, as many flights will get you in for lunchtime-ish.
However, I always split my long haul journeys into 2 sectors, ensure I have a shower at the mind point transit and, typically, change into chino’s and shirt just before landing if I do have to meet a client.
However, I always split my long haul journeys into 2 sectors, ensure I have a shower at the mind point transit and, typically, change into chino’s and shirt just before landing if I do have to meet a client.
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