Which boat for next summer?
Discussion
NickCQ said:
Do you need a dinghy in inland waterways? How about a SUP paddleboard or kayak or something?
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
IforB said:
Louis Balfour said:
IforB said:
Louis Balfour said:
Simpo Two said:
Seight_Returns said:
In some seriousness - boat owners who name their boats with reference to their wives' names (ideally tastefully, respectfully and affectionately) tend to fare better in the inevitable "how much is that bloody thing costing us" marital discussions.
Not only is that a common tactic, but the surname always seems to start with 'B' - 'Sophie B', 'Molly B', 'Daisy B' etc...no idea why. Even the Beach Boys' boat was 'Sloop John B'.So anyway, 20 questions as to the name of Balfour's new tub:
1) Animal, vegetable or mineral?
I shall be naming the vessel "Chlamydia".
I love a daft boat name. Many of mine in the past have been attempts at winding up the stuffy old darts on race committees.
I was very disappointed when as a teenager our carbon hulled 505 was referred to as BBS1 by the commodore rather the actual name of "Big Black Stiff One."
IforB said:
Register the radio and get an MMSI number for Chlamydia.
In terms of security, the thing most likely to get nicked is the trailer, so make sure it gets stashed somewhere safe and is locked up properly. Ground anchor and a decent hitch lock are the minimum for me after learning the hard way about thieving scumbags and boat trailers.
The engine is the next most likely thing to get nabbed, but if kept in a secure location, anything with that big of a lump on it should be fine.
Other than that, it is petty pilfering that is the problem, but genuinely there is not much of that really and the usual precautions are the same anywhere.
Just make sure your insurance is bullet proof and you have a good broker. Other than that, not much.
Oh, other than life jackets and something to keep the damned birds off.
Can anyone suggest a good boat insurance broker please?In terms of security, the thing most likely to get nicked is the trailer, so make sure it gets stashed somewhere safe and is locked up properly. Ground anchor and a decent hitch lock are the minimum for me after learning the hard way about thieving scumbags and boat trailers.
The engine is the next most likely thing to get nabbed, but if kept in a secure location, anything with that big of a lump on it should be fine.
Other than that, it is petty pilfering that is the problem, but genuinely there is not much of that really and the usual precautions are the same anywhere.
Just make sure your insurance is bullet proof and you have a good broker. Other than that, not much.
Oh, other than life jackets and something to keep the damned birds off.
What do I need to keep birds off? Scarecrow or bird scarer may not be apposite in a marina.
NickCQ said:
Louis Balfour said:
OK dehumidifier, hadn't thought of that.
Just makes the boat so much nicer when you come back to it and slows mildew growth.Louis Balfour said:
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.
The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
I do hope you are joking?The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
Tool kit is an essential, as are things like mooring lines (fore, aft and springs), fenders, safety kit like flares, space blankets, first aid kit. Scrubbing brush for getting the bird crap off, boat hook, emergency fuel can, fuel filler and a spare handheld VHF.
Some random spares like fuses, fuel filter, impeller (if easily changeable on your engine, with outboards of a decent size it is not usually an easy job and not one you will be able to do on the water) spare oil and hydraulic fluid for steering or trim rams (unusual you would need it to be honest, but I always like to have a bit there just in case.)
Some random spares like fuses, fuel filter, impeller (if easily changeable on your engine, with outboards of a decent size it is not usually an easy job and not one you will be able to do on the water) spare oil and hydraulic fluid for steering or trim rams (unusual you would need it to be honest, but I always like to have a bit there just in case.)
Louis Balfour said:
IforB said:
Register the radio and get an MMSI number for Chlamydia.
In terms of security, the thing most likely to get nicked is the trailer, so make sure it gets stashed somewhere safe and is locked up properly. Ground anchor and a decent hitch lock are the minimum for me after learning the hard way about thieving scumbags and boat trailers.
The engine is the next most likely thing to get nabbed, but if kept in a secure location, anything with that big of a lump on it should be fine.
Other than that, it is petty pilfering that is the problem, but genuinely there is not much of that really and the usual precautions are the same anywhere.
Just make sure your insurance is bullet proof and you have a good broker. Other than that, not much.
Oh, other than life jackets and something to keep the damned birds off.
Can anyone suggest a good boat insurance broker please?In terms of security, the thing most likely to get nicked is the trailer, so make sure it gets stashed somewhere safe and is locked up properly. Ground anchor and a decent hitch lock are the minimum for me after learning the hard way about thieving scumbags and boat trailers.
The engine is the next most likely thing to get nabbed, but if kept in a secure location, anything with that big of a lump on it should be fine.
Other than that, it is petty pilfering that is the problem, but genuinely there is not much of that really and the usual precautions are the same anywhere.
Just make sure your insurance is bullet proof and you have a good broker. Other than that, not much.
Oh, other than life jackets and something to keep the damned birds off.
What do I need to keep birds off? Scarecrow or bird scarer may not be apposite in a marina.
Highly recommended.
As for bird scaring. Silly little things like rubber snakes work for a while, spinney things that mount to the roof and go round with the wind. A fake owl works alright too. Well, until you find a bloody seagull sitting on the damned thing...
Edited by IforB on Wednesday 11th November 20:17
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.
The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
I do hope you are joking?The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
Louis Balfour said:
IforB said:
Louis Balfour said:
Simpo Two said:
Seight_Returns said:
In some seriousness - boat owners who name their boats with reference to their wives' names (ideally tastefully, respectfully and affectionately) tend to fare better in the inevitable "how much is that bloody thing costing us" marital discussions.
Not only is that a common tactic, but the surname always seems to start with 'B' - 'Sophie B', 'Molly B', 'Daisy B' etc...no idea why. Even the Beach Boys' boat was 'Sloop John B'.So anyway, 20 questions as to the name of Balfour's new tub:
1) Animal, vegetable or mineral?
I shall be naming the vessel "Chlamydia".
HarryW said:
Louis Balfour said:
IforB said:
Louis Balfour said:
Simpo Two said:
Seight_Returns said:
In some seriousness - boat owners who name their boats with reference to their wives' names (ideally tastefully, respectfully and affectionately) tend to fare better in the inevitable "how much is that bloody thing costing us" marital discussions.
Not only is that a common tactic, but the surname always seems to start with 'B' - 'Sophie B', 'Molly B', 'Daisy B' etc...no idea why. Even the Beach Boys' boat was 'Sloop John B'.So anyway, 20 questions as to the name of Balfour's new tub:
1) Animal, vegetable or mineral?
I shall be naming the vessel "Chlamydia".
Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.
The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
I do hope you are joking?The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.
The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
I do hope you are joking?The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
Perhaps I need to stick to the marina or if I moor near home sleep on the boat.
Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
Louis Balfour said:
I don't know, is the short answer. I have yet to establish whether it is permissible to anchor in a river overnight or whether one has to moor to the bank / pontoon.
The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
I do hope you are joking?The Trent runs past the end of my road, so if I can anchor in the river so much the better. I wouldn't leave it there often because the lane attract teenagers and a little boat just offshore may prove too much temptation. But occasionally it would be good and I would need to get out to her in the morning.
Perhaps I need to stick to the marina or if I moor near home sleep on the boat.
Louis Balfour said:
Okay so I should be getting Chlamydia just before Christmas.
I've got the personalised deck shoes on order; Santa is buying me the captain's hat and Lick N Stick anchor tattoos.
What else am I going to need?
Boat insurance.
River licence
Floaty keyring.
Kettle
Pot Noodles
What about boat security?
I've read a lot of the replies and there seems to be some confusion over whether it's inland or coastal, and trailered or berthed. It's inland and in a marina.I've got the personalised deck shoes on order; Santa is buying me the captain's hat and Lick N Stick anchor tattoos.
What else am I going to need?
Boat insurance.
River licence
Floaty keyring.
Kettle
Pot Noodles
What about boat security?
You don't need flares or a VHF radio because land is never more than 30 feet away.
Boat insurance - try www.craftinsure.com
River licence - yes, CRT I presume.
Floaty keyring - yes, same if you need a key to operate locks.
You don't need a dinghy/tender.
As for inside, think of it as a second home/caravan. So it's more homewares than anything else.
Where you are you won't be anchoring in the river, you'll tie up either at a recognised mooring, or, if safe and permissible to do so, in a nice quiet field which is my favourite.
I keep some emergency cash hidden away; other than that the most valuable single thing is probably a bottle of gin, so contents insurance is not an issue for me.
Dehumidifier - only in winter when the boat is closed up. Actually that brings me to an important issue - WINTERISING. You'll be using this boat in winter - so like mine it needs to be operational, but safe. Fresh water will freeze below zero - that means cooling water in the engine, water in the WC, water in the freshwater tank/s. You don't want water freezing and cracking things - so I use a couple of oil-filled radiators plugged into shore power. Can't tell you what to do with an outboard as I don't have one.
I don't service my own engine, but find a decently-equipped toolbox very useful for lots of little things.
Louis Balfour said:
Perhaps I need to stick to the marina or if I moor near home sleep on the boat.
You may get bored quite soon if you can only go half a day from the marina in each direction. Sleeping aboard is an extra dimension you can't imagine until you've done it. Evening on the river as the sun goes down, the wind drops, the ducks come out and you open the drinks cabinet and get supper on is wonderful. But you'll miss it all if you're a day-tripper because that when you have to go home and you can't have a drink 'cos you're driving.Simpo Two said:
Louis Balfour said:
Okay so I should be getting Chlamydia just before Christmas.
I've got the personalised deck shoes on order; Santa is buying me the captain's hat and Lick N Stick anchor tattoos.
What else am I going to need?
Boat insurance.
River licence
Floaty keyring.
Kettle
Pot Noodles
What about boat security?
I've read a lot of the replies and there seems to be some confusion over whether it's inland or coastal, and trailered or berthed. It's inland and in a marina.I've got the personalised deck shoes on order; Santa is buying me the captain's hat and Lick N Stick anchor tattoos.
What else am I going to need?
Boat insurance.
River licence
Floaty keyring.
Kettle
Pot Noodles
What about boat security?
You don't need flares or a VHF radio because land is never more than 30 feet away.
Boat insurance - try www.craftinsure.com
River licence - yes, CRT I presume.
Floaty keyring - yes, same if you need a key to operate locks.
You don't need a dinghy/tender.
As for inside, think of it as a second home/caravan. So it's more homewares than anything else.
Where you are you won't be anchoring in the river, you'll tie up either at a recognised mooring, or, if safe and permissible to do so, in a nice quiet field which is my favourite.
I keep some emergency cash hidden away; other than that the most valuable single thing is probably a bottle of gin, so contents insurance is not an issue for me.
Dehumidifier - only in winter when the boat is closed up. Actually that brings me to an important issue - WINTERISING. You'll be using this boat in winter - so like mine it needs to be operational, but safe. Fresh water will freeze below zero - that means cooling water in the engine, water in the WC, water in the freshwater tank/s. You don't want water freezing and cracking things - so I use a couple of oil-filled radiators plugged into shore power. Can't tell you what to do with an outboard as I don't have one.
I don't service my own engine, but find a decently-equipped toolbox very useful for lots of little things.
Louis Balfour said:
Perhaps I need to stick to the marina or if I moor near home sleep on the boat.
You may get bored quite soon if you can only go half a day from the marina in each direction. Sleeping aboard is an extra dimension you can't imagine until you've done it. Evening on the river as the sun goes down, the wind drops, the ducks come out and you open the drinks cabinet and get supper on is wonderful. But you'll miss it all if you're a day-tripper because that when you have ot go home and you can't have a drink 'cos you're driving.Anyone - what happens with an outboard in freezing temps? If I am planning to use the boat in the winter?
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