We have a new submarine

[Bushmaster]

Torquemada said:

They can't be very long stories. Its draught is 33 feet.

Edited by "Torquemada" on Wednesday 10th December 14:23

When surfaced!

Edited by Bushmaster on Wednesday 10th December 14:31

[Lurking Lawyer]

Sciroccology said:

All very well, but do we have a Caterpiller Drive and can we do a Crazy Ivan?

Far more likely to be a Barmy Bertie than a Crazy Ivan in the RN, surely....?

[Sciroccology]

Lurking Lawyer said:

Sciroccology said:

All very well, but do we have a Caterpiller Drive and can we do a Crazy Ivan?

Far more likely to be a Barmy Bertie than a Crazy Ivan in the RN, surely....?

That's just what Captain Marko Ramius would have you think.

[Lurking Lawyer]

Sciroccology said:

Lurking Lawyer said:

Sciroccology said:

All very well, but do we have a Caterpiller Drive and can we do a Crazy Ivan?

Far more likely to be a Barmy Bertie than a Crazy Ivan in the RN, surely....?

That's just what Captain Marko Ramius would have you think.

S'alright, I got the HFRO reference first time round - you don't need to belabour the point!

[Bushmaster]

Ah, but can it surface like this

Edited by Bushmaster on Wednesday 10th December 14:38

[Sciroccology]

Lurking Lawyer said:

Sciroccology said:

Lurking Lawyer said:

Sciroccology said:

All very well, but do we have a Caterpiller Drive and can we do a Crazy Ivan?

Far more likely to be a Barmy Bertie than a Crazy Ivan in the RN, surely....?

That's just what Captain Marko Ramius would have you think.

S'alright, I got the HFRO reference first time round - you don't need to belabour the point!

Fair enough.

[tank slapper]

Bushmaster said:

Ah, but can it surface like this

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9IDsVHbm9aI

An American 688 class.

[Bushmaster]

tank slapper said:

Bushmaster said:

Ah, but can it surface like this

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9IDsVHbm9aI

An American 688 class.

That could cause a nasty bang on the head!

IIRC didn't a US submarine surface like that underneath a Japanese trawler recently?

[S7Paul]

[quote="Torquemada"]

email this morning said:

As long as a football pitch, at 318 ft, and as wide as four double-Decker buses (36 ft), 12 stories tall, HMS Astute is a third longer than any sub which has gone before.

They can't be very long stories. Its draught is 33 feet.

Edited by "Torquemada" on Wednesday 10th December 14:23

And the other slight inaccuracy is that while Astute is longer than any previous UK hunter-killer sub, it isn't "a third longer than any sub which has gone before". The Vanguard Class boats are around 492 feet long (and roughly twice the weight), and there are probably loads of US & Russian subs that are bigger.

Edited by S7Paul on Wednesday 10th December 14:59

[Bushmaster]

If it's draft is 30 odd feet, it means that the distance from the waterline when surfaced to the bottom of its keel is 30 odd feet. The bit about being x stories high refers to the sail or conning tower thingy which is quite small, the two things are not incompatible.

[wadgebeast]

S7Paul said:

[quote="Torquemada"]

email this morning said:

As long as a football pitch, at 318 ft, and as wide as four double-Decker buses (36 ft), 12 stories tall, HMS Astute is a third longer than any sub which has gone before.

They can't be very long stories. Its draught is 33 feet.

Edited by "Torquemada" on Wednesday 10th December 14:23

And the other slight inaccuracy is that while Astute is longer than any previous UK hunter-killer sub, it isn't "a third longer than any sub which has gone before". The Vanguard Class boats are around 492 feet long (and roughly twice the weight), and there are probably loads of US & Russian subs that are bigger.

Edited by S7Paul on Wednesday 10th December 14:59

It's not even as long as our own home built vanguard class - ok they're not hunter killers, but they're 178m long, which is what? 520 odd feet long? They also displace about 17000 tons, considerably more than the Astute. Different type of boat though, for a different purpose. Still the most advanced submarine in the world though, just not enough of them - Government balked at buying as many as they'd originally agreed.

[S7Paul]

wadgebeast said:

S7Paul said:

[quote="Torquemada"]

email this morning said:

As long as a football pitch, at 318 ft, and as wide as four double-Decker buses (36 ft), 12 stories tall, HMS Astute is a third longer than any sub which has gone before.

They can't be very long stories. Its draught is 33 feet.

Edited by "Torquemada" on Wednesday 10th December 14:23

And the other slight inaccuracy is that while Astute is longer than any previous UK hunter-killer sub, it isn't "a third longer than any sub which has gone before". The Vanguard Class boats are around 492 feet long (and roughly twice the weight), and there are probably loads of US & Russian subs that are bigger.

Edited by S7Paul on Wednesday 10th December 14:59

It's not even as long as our own home built vanguard class - ok they're not hunter killers, but they're 178m long, which is what? 520 odd feet long? They also displace about 17000 tons, considerably more than the Astute. Different type of boat though, for a different purpose. Still the most advanced submarine in the world though, just not enough of them - Government balked at buying as many as they'd originally agreed.

Having said all that, Astute still looks pretty damn big when you're stood next to, or on top of it. The odd thing is that it feels really cramped inside; makes you wonder where all the space went. It really does take a special kind of weirdo to want to spend 3 months in a submarine (I should know, I work with enough of them).

[whirligig]

S7Paul said:

It really does take a special kind of weirdo to want to spend 3 months in a submarine (I should know, I work with enough of them).

Oi! My OH is away on the xmas patrol on the bombers and he's no weirdo thank you! (but I agree there are a fair few out there.....

[Bushmaster]

whirligig said:

S7Paul said:

It really does take a special kind of weirdo to want to spend 3 months in a submarine (I should know, I work with enough of them).

Oi! My OH is away on the xmas patrol on the bombers and he's no weirdo thank you! (but I agree there are a fair few out there.....

Hats off to all RN submarine crews, people like your OH deserve mucho respect.

[Fatboy]

Kuroblack350 said:

MiniMan64 said:

So we have a sexy new submarine?

What about the Yanks and the Russians, didn't they have this sort of thing 10 years ago? God knows what they've got in the water now.

Having had some involvement in Astute I feel confident in saying it really is top drawer material, and that's not something that we in the UK can say very often

The Amercian boats are generally incredibly advanced, but to be honest we're up there too, particulalry in the integrated combat space. Also, our training regime is second to none, which makes for truly excellent officers and crews... You'll notice that every picture of Astute has the 'prop' covered, that's becuase it not actually a prop at all, it's a propulsor of sorts - in fact it's so good the Americans are using it on their boats now But then again, Astute is powered by an evolution of the PWR1 Reactor Design anyways - we also nicked their 'vertical build' philosophy, which takes some seeing to believe..!

We got the vertical build from Electric Boat (US sub builders), but the build philosophy sharing goes both ways.
And they are fking big, but they're not 12 stories.

[Bushmaster]

Go on then, what is Vertical Build?










[Gets notebook and pencil out to jot it all down and sell to the Chinese]

[Apache]

Kuroblack350 said:

Having had some involvement in Astute I feel confident in saying it really is top drawer material, and that's not something that we in the UK can say very often

The Amercian boats are generally incredibly advanced, but to be honest we're up there too, particulalry in the integrated combat space. Also, our training regime is second to none, which makes for truly excellent officers and crews... You'll notice that every picture of Astute has the 'prop' covered, that's becuase it not actually a prop at all, it's a propulsor of sorts - in fact it's so good the Americans are using it on their boats now But then again, Astute is powered by an evolution of the PWR1 Reactor Design anyways - we also nicked their 'vertical build' philosophy, which takes some seeing to believe..!

you do realise we're going to have to kill you now

[castrolcraig]

Bushmaster said:

whirligig said:

S7Paul said:

It really does take a special kind of weirdo to want to spend 3 months in a submarine (I should know, I work with enough of them).

Oi! My OH is away on the xmas patrol on the bombers and he's no weirdo thank you! (but I agree there are a fair few out there.....

Hats off to all RN submarine crews, people like your OH deserve mucho respect.

+1 i always said that sub crews are some of the bravest people around.

had a look round one once when i was doing my commando course, my god how do people live in those things..

[Bushmaster]

castrolcraig said:

Bushmaster said:

whirligig said:

S7Paul said:

It really does take a special kind of weirdo to want to spend 3 months in a submarine (I should know, I work with enough of them).

Oi! My OH is away on the xmas patrol on the bombers and he's no weirdo thank you! (but I agree there are a fair few out there.....

Hats off to all RN submarine crews, people like your OH deserve mucho respect.

+1 i always said that sub crews are some of the bravest people around.

had a look round one once when i was doing my commando course, my god how do people live in those things..

I meant to add, especially when it's their turn in the barrel!

[Chainguy]

I was lucky, I only ever did one Christmas/New Year away at sea on a Boat. Feck me that was grim. I spent New Years eve midnight on watch. Not fun.

Hard way to make a living. Had its moments though