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Eric Mc

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122,288 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Acrylics have come on in leaps and bounds over the past few years. I now use them almost exclusively.

I use Tamiya and Warhammer (yes) for basic colours.

I use Xtracrylic (Hannant's own range) for the official RAF/RN/USAAF/Luftwaffe shades.

They spray and brush well and they are virtually odourless.

CobolMan

1,417 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Nobody does a Victor, Vulcan or Valiant in 1/48 as far as I know.
Airfix did a good Lightning F6 in 1/48
Aeroclub did a tin triangle in 1/48th but whether you can get hold of them is another matter.....

Do you buy much/any stuff from Hannants Eric Mc?

Eric Mc

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122,288 posts

267 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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I use Hannants fairly fequently and they are pretty reliable (although sometimes a bit slow). The most recent purchases from them were some spares for my old Badger airbrush and the Xtrakit Supermarine Scimitar.

eccles

13,752 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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perdu said:
Eric Mc said:
perdu said:
And from the front



I have been having a think, you guys might be right, I may start again for the crack!
Smashing.

Which Tornado is that?

And how do you do your bases?
Hi glad you like it

I dont know if you remember but Airfix modifed (very slightly) their MRCA model to make an RAF Tornado and at the time there were a few available kits available. When we came to make the diorama (A plank of melamine faced chip board, painted with Tamiya Acrylics I seem to recall with a strip of railway scenery grass at the back!) three of us made our own take on the plane.

I felt then that the most accurate outline was the oldest of all, the Airfix one. So with several modifications around the poorly represented wingroot area, I made mine as the "Dambusters" version.

One of the other guys used a Monogram kit I think, which to my eye looked too "heavyset" for accuracy. Not certain which other model was used but the three all looked so different that we abandoned the idea as a branch diorama after one outing, the colours we used weren't even the same across all three planes

Ah the good old days, s'pose I'm lucky we had the pictures taken...

Out of interest, why are the models fitted with two skyshadow pods? I don't recall seeing that fit before.

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Good question nicely put

this was made over twenty years ago, but ISTR that the pods on my model were not the same. One, under the port wing is no doubt Skyshadow or some previous device the other had no suspicious electronic device bulges on it.

Would the other have been a drop tank??????




As this was a good topic I just found the original working info taken from a Modeldecal sheet (set no 50) which states that the Airfix kit had the proper skyshadow pods supplied on its re-release in 1983

could it be that operationally two pods were surplus to requirements

also I see that the two pictures I have posted of my model have one of them reversed (presumably during the processing stage) with the refuelling probe on one side of the cockpit on one shot and reversed on the other, would that have given the impresion that the pods were the same both sides, I was sure they were different

but without the model to look at all I have left is a photograph or two

looks as if the "from the front" picture has been reversed, to me

eccles

13,752 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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perdu said:
Good question nicely put

this was made over twenty years ago, but ISTR that the pods on my model were not the same. One, under the port wing is no doubt Skyshadow or some previous device the other had no suspicious electronic device bulges on it.

Would the other have been a drop tank??????




As this was a good topic I just found the original working info taken from a Modeldecal sheet (set no 50) which states that the Airfix kit had the proper skyshadow pods supplied on its re-release in 1983

could it be that operationally two pods were surplus to requirements

also I see that the two pictures I have posted of my model have one of them reversed (presumably during the processing stage) with the refuelling probe on one side of the cockpit on one shot and reversed on the other, would that have given the impresion that the pods were the same both sides, I was sure they were different

but without the model to look at all I have left is a photograph or two

looks as if the "from the front" picture has been reversed, to me
I was only wondering as we never used to have that fit on my unit, and was wondering if it was something 617 did.
I seem to recall the standard fit was BOZ pod (chaff and flare pointy pod)on the right side, and ECM (skyshadow dumpy with bulges pod) was on the left. I don't recall seeing 2 skyshadows, but I do remember seeing 2 boz pod on our display aircraft on occasion.

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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mine (the middle model) has two different pods, the skyshadow (dumpy bulges) is on its starboard wing. And the port wing has a more pointy pod on its pylon.

Sounds as if that could have been reversed for service from your description

The other guys built their models elsewhere, no feedback like the internet back in those days, looks as if at least one of us got the "two dumpy pods" look wrong though...

:frown:

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

193 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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CobolMan said:
Eric Mc said:
Nobody does a Victor, Vulcan or Valiant in 1/48 as far as I know.
Airfix did a good Lightning F6 in 1/48
Aeroclub did a tin triangle in 1/48th but whether you can get hold of them is another matter.....
Thanks, I had a look for the Aeroclub kit and it seems a little scarce as you say. Research did reveal that late last year Airfix were thinking about producing a 1/48 version, I expect you probably knew that though. smile

Eric Mc

Original Poster:

122,288 posts

267 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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The 1/48 Airfix Vulcan is probably a bit of a myth. I think it would be slightly on the enormous size and would be fairly expensive - around £100 I would think.


speedchick

5,186 posts

224 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Jeeesh, the 1:72 Concorde was big enough, there is no way we would have room for a 1:48 Vulcan here, though it would be an impressive beastie!

CobolMan

1,417 posts

209 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
The 1/48 Airfix Vulcan is probably a bit of a myth. I think it would be slightly on the enormous size and would be fairly expensive - around £100 I would think.
You're right there Eric, I think it was a hoax pulled at one of the trade shows late last year/early this year - there were pictures of the 'box' in SAMI earlier this year.

Shar2

2,224 posts

215 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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CobolMan said:
Eric Mc said:
The 1/48 Airfix Vulcan is probably a bit of a myth. I think it would be slightly on the enormous size and would be fairly expensive - around £100 I would think.
You're right there Eric, I think it was a hoax pulled at one of the trade shows late last year/early this year - there were pictures of the 'box' in SAMI earlier this year.
Yeah! but don't forget that most people thought that the 1/24 mosquito would never be put into production. True a 1/48 Vulcan would be pretty darn big.

CobolMan

1,417 posts

209 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Have you seen the 1/32 Vulcan that's been produced Shar2? Can't remember the manufacturer but I think it's made out of resin eek

Shar2

2,224 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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CobolMan said:
Have you seen the 1/32 Vulcan that's been produced Shar2? Can't remember the manufacturer but I think it's made out of resin eek
Er no!, that must be flippin' enormous eek

Here it is

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1:32-AVRO-VULCAN-COMPLETE-KI...

Doesn't seem as big as I thought and there is something not quite right with it.

Goes off to google

Edited by Shar2 on Saturday 11th July 11:13

Evangelion

7,790 posts

180 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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Heritage Aviation used to call themselves Ardvaark Models, I have a couple of their resin TSR-2's in 1/72. Don't know how it compares with the Airfix version as I've never had one!

They also do a 1/48 scale glider I'd like to get my hands on. Can't remember the name of it but I think it's this one (photographed by my brother in 1965):

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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Slingsby T21 Sedbergh

I flew in those many times in the sixties

great fun

Eric Mc

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122,288 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Time for another update. Hope the mods don't mind this being in planes & things rather than Scale Models. It is likely to get more viewings and comments here. If they want to move it, I won't object (too much).

Airfix 1/72 Mosquito NF.XIX at D-Day, June 1944







FROG Hawker Typhoon 1B - in the colours of Roland Beamont when
Commanding Officer of 609 Squadron in 1943.





The Airfix kit was originally released back in 1972 and the FROG in 1975 (one of their last before going bust). Both require a bit of extra work to make them presentable but they are pretty accurate in outline.

dr_gn

16,199 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Time for another update. Hope the mods don't mind this being in planes & things rather than Scale Models. It is likely to get more viewings and comments here. If they want to move it, I won't object (too much).

Airfix 1/72 Mosquito NF.XIX at D-Day, June 1944







FROG Hawker Typhoon 1B - in the colours of Roland Beamont when
Commanding Officer of 609 Squadron in 1943.





The Airfix kit was originally released back in 1972 and the FROG in 1975 (one of their last before going bust). Both require a bit of extra work to make them presentable but they are pretty accurate in outline.
Both look great. For me, the only thing that lets the Mosquito down a bit is the cockpit glazing colour.

Do they need aerials?

Cheers,

Eric Mc

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122,288 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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I never put the wire aerials from the mast to the fin as they

a) gather dust and are too fragile to clean
b) get knocked off too easily

Regarding the Mossies canopy frame, all the pictures I've seen show that the bulk of the framing at the rear of the canopy was actually an internal structure and therefore normally in the Interior Green shade used in RAF cockpits of the day. I know you can never be too dogmmatic in such matters but that certainly the way it looks in the pictures I perused when doing the Mosquito. I also used the Osprey book on modelling the Mosquito and that's what they show too.

Airfix (and indeed all the 1/72 Mossie models I've seen) show the framing as mouldings on the canopy rather than as internal structure so I just painted the mould lines Interior Green and glossed them up to make them look like they were under the perspex rather than on the outside.

Maybe it didn't work that well but it was one answer to the problem.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 1st October 14:52

dr_gn

16,199 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Eric Mc said:
I never put the wire aerials from the mast to the fin as they

a) gather dust and are too fragile to clean
b) get knocked off too easily

Regarding the Mossies canopy frame, all the pictures I've seen show that the bulk of the framing at the rear of the canopy was actually an internal structure and therefore normally in the Interior Green shade used in RAF cockpits of the day. I know you can never be too dogmmatic in such matters but that certainly the way it looks in the pictures I perused when doing the Mosquito. I also used the Osprey book on modelling the Mosquito and that's what they show too.

Airfix (and indeed all the 1/72 Mossie models I've seen) show the framing as mouldings on the canopy rather than as internal structure so I just painted the mould lines Interior Green and glossed them up to make them look like they were under the perspex rather than on the outside.

Maybe it didn't work that well but it was one answer to the problem.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 1st October 14:52
Fair enough!