Post Amazingly Cool Pictures Of Tanks!

[dr_gn]

williamp said:

when Clarkson drove the range Rover against the Challenger he showed us the rifled barrel. You know what they say...

You can question many things in life: the internet, tax returns, death...

... BUT NOT TOP GEAR

Well I say Top Gear is ste:

"Another improvement currently being made to the Challenger 2 is the replacement of its 120 mm rifled cannon barrel with a smooth bore cannon, which will enable the Challenger to fire depleted uranium rounds among other more lethal ammunition developed by the US and Germany"

http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-british-challen...

[andy400]

dr_gn said:

andy400 said:

Tomlev40 said:

My uncle knows a guy who tested the Challenger 2. It was unique because the barrel was smooth if I can remember.

Challenger 2 has a 120mm rifled main weapon, the M1 has a 120mm smoothbore, IIRC?

My uncle knows a guy whose dog used to st on the front garden of the ex-wife of a fella who cleaned the toilets in the factory where they make the guns.....

Or something.

That doesn't mean a specific Challenger 2 couldn't have been fitted with a smooth bore gun at some point does it?

Edited by dr_gn on Wednesday 28th October 13:16

Indeed not, but that's not how the first line of Tomlev40's post reads (see above).

However if it was a single Challenger that happened to be fitted with a smoothbore, then the rest of the post would make some sense, if not the first line.

fked if I know TBH.

[T89 Callan]

On the subject of Top Gear, Clarkson wasn't the first to test a car against a tank....

....behold E30 BMW 325ix vs Leopard Tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d-8OReliXg

Warning: Includes Muzak and '80's graphic effects.

[splodge s4]

I have a confession, Back in '92 when I was a young lad in the Tank Regiment driving Challenger 1, I did this



Just going to dam fast in what should have been a 3rd gear corner, I hit it flat out in 4th, got the back out nicely with a bit of oppisite lock stick but it got away from me & we hit a 4 inch kerb side on & over she went.

The operator was flung out the turret, had it gone over further then he would have had it, the commander wedged himself in.

When I was up in front of the CO I remember him saying 'you were lucky, Tanks dont care who they kill, good guys or bad guys'. We were all fine but I had to 'donate' a weeks wage to the recovery fund

[splodge s4]

Maybe not the best model we have seen but...



HESH-CAT-ON!


A Chally 1 track link that I now use to keep the gazebo from blowing away


Bugger, i've done it again!

[Tomlev40]

The Churchill Tank. Fitted with a 2 pounder then upgraded to a 3 inch howitzer and then again to a 6 pounder which once took out a Tiger in North Africa. You'd of thought the gun upgrades would stop but then another upgrade to a 75mm gun this time! Also fitted with a lot of armor.

[RizzoTheRat]

splodge s4 said:

I have a confession, Back in '92 when I was a young lad in the Tank Regiment driving Challenger 1, I did this

Good skills

[IforB]

An amusing tank video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4a5_1256744855

[andy97]

Skywalker said:

Swedish "S" Tank

[AstonZagato]

Wot? No Tiger?

Awesome tank - pity it was on the wrong team.

[Mark A S]

Great thread, I do this for a living !

Maus in 2002, apologies for poor pic, this was before it was possible for westerners to get in easily, consequencely, small dollar bribes were in order!

1/1 Challenger 2, me driving

1/6th CH2 with 1/1 cousin !

Another 1/6th Ch 2, best Tank in the world

¼ King Tiger

2 x ¼ Tiger 1

¼ T34

1/1 King tiger

Apologies for the indulgence, this is a bit of a hobby for me

[Skywalker]

Aussie M1 from their mil website

[Munter]

splodge s4 said:

<story about getting it a tad wrong>

For some reason that dragged up amemory of a lad I knew from scouts.

He joined the army. Came home one christmas with a chocking great scar on his forehead, and some story about falling over in a tank or some such.

Turns out he was on a horse that bolted and he smacked his head on a tree branch the horse ran under

[rhinochopig]

I'm surprised this vid hasn't surfaced yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhbBWNcV5dA

Damn swedes will Rally anything.

[FourWheelDrift]

Captured and re-used.

German Panzer IIIs being used by Polish forces in North Africa.



German Panthers being used by Soviet Forces on the Eastern front.



Captured German Tiger II in Free-French colours.

[fadeaway]

splodge s4 said:

Bugger, i've done it again!

Made me laugh!

[rhinochopig]

Mark A S said:

Great thread, I do this for a living !

Maus in 2002, apologies for poor pic, this was before it was possible for westerners to get in easily, consequencely, small dollar bribes were in order!

Another 1/6th Ch 2, best Tank in the world

Apologies for the indulgence, this is a bit of a hobby for me

So what makes it the best tank in the world? How is it better than say the Abrams or the New leopard posted earlier?

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 30th October 09:55

[FourWheelDrift]

rhinochopig said:

Mark A S said:

Great thread, I do this for a living !

Maus in 2002, apologies for poor pic, this was before it was possible for westerners to get in easily, consequencely, small dollar bribes were in order!

Another 1/6th Ch 2, best Tank in the world

Apologies for the indulgence, this is a bit of a hobby for me

So what makes it the best tank in the world? How is it better than say the Abrams or the New leopard posted earlier?

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 30th October 09:55

M1 Abrams & Leopard use the same German made smooth bore gun.
Challenger 2's gun uses a rifled barrel.

Smooth bore = Musket used by cannon fodder.
Rifled barrel = Sharpe's chosen men's Baker rifles.

We all know the rifles were more accurate and fire further

[dr_gn]

FourWheelDrift said:

rhinochopig said:

Mark A S said:

Great thread, I do this for a living !

Maus in 2002, apologies for poor pic, this was before it was possible for westerners to get in easily, consequencely, small dollar bribes were in order!

Another 1/6th Ch 2, best Tank in the world

Apologies for the indulgence, this is a bit of a hobby for me

So what makes it the best tank in the world? How is it better than say the Abrams or the New leopard posted earlier?

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 30th October 09:55

M1 Abrams & Leopard use the same German made smooth bore gun.
Challenger 2's gun uses a rifled barrel.

Smooth bore = Musket used by cannon fodder.
Rifled barrel = Sharpe's chosen men's Baker rifles.

We all know the rifles were more accurate and fire further

Isn't the smooth bore used for sabot rounds though? (See post at top of page 4)

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 30th October 10:56

[rhinochopig]

dr_gn said:

FourWheelDrift said:

rhinochopig said:

Mark A S said:

Great thread, I do this for a living !

Maus in 2002, apologies for poor pic, this was before it was possible for westerners to get in easily, consequencely, small dollar bribes were in order!

Another 1/6th Ch 2, best Tank in the world

Apologies for the indulgence, this is a bit of a hobby for me

So what makes it the best tank in the world? How is it better than say the Abrams or the New leopard posted earlier?

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 30th October 09:55

M1 Abrams & Leopard use the same German made smooth bore gun.
Challenger 2's gun uses a rifled barrel.

Smooth bore = Musket used by cannon fodder.
Rifled barrel = Sharpe's chosen men's Baker rifles.

We all know the rifles were more accurate and fire further

Isn't the smooth bore used for sabot rounds though? (See post at top of page 4)

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 30th October 10:56

Having asked the question, I googled my question. There are pages of debate here: http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/land-forces/10900...

In essence the arguments are:

• Gun Smooth vs Rifled - Smooth bore is a more modern design, able to fire more modern rounds. Rifled more accurate Chally 2 holds record for ranged kill at just over 5km and can also be used to fire broader range of ammo.

• Powerpacks - M1A2 much faster and better P2W thab Chally. Chally more reliable, and easier to work on, and better range.

• Armour / crew survivability Chally has better armour, but doesn't have blow off doors on its magazine like the M1A2. Chally has a built in Kettle M1A2 side armour much weaker.

• Electronics M1A2 seems to win here as it's battlespace networked so can pass on target info to other platforms. Also has better whole crew targetting and vision systems.

There are about 20 pages of stuff in the link - interesting debate.