super yachts 60million+
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been reading this thread for quite a while soaking up the information...Funny how the dollar value you kinda skip over, but once you compare the reduced load of 5000Kwh just sitting there with zero crew to what I use daily on my house...really puts it in perspective!
Out of interest, how many kw would a say 40-50 meter yacht (or rather, 500GT since that's yacht speak for what I deem my ideal sized boat...I'm practical!). use?
I remain very impressed by the sunreef 60 and 80 series...they seem even greater value now 😂
Out of interest, how many kw would a say 40-50 meter yacht (or rather, 500GT since that's yacht speak for what I deem my ideal sized boat...I'm practical!). use?
I remain very impressed by the sunreef 60 and 80 series...they seem even greater value now 😂
Bas Jaski said:
been reading this thread for quite a while soaking up the information...Funny how the dollar value you kinda skip over, but once you compare the reduced load of 5000Kwh just sitting there with zero crew to what I use daily on my house...really puts it in perspective!
Out of interest, how many kw would a say 40-50 meter yacht (or rather, 500GT since that's yacht speak for what I deem my ideal sized boat...I'm practical!). use?
I remain very impressed by the sunreef 60 and 80 series...they seem even greater value now ??
The smallest yacht I worked on was 54m, and that was 15 years ago, but IIRC the generators were 200kW. Normally for redundancy each should be able to power the vessel (often not the case in practice, given certain operational requirements). I'd guess a 40-50m yacht would have a background load comfortably less than 100kWh, with reductions below that possible. With smaller vessels it is much easier to just turn them off. With big boats that's just not really practical.Out of interest, how many kw would a say 40-50 meter yacht (or rather, 500GT since that's yacht speak for what I deem my ideal sized boat...I'm practical!). use?
I remain very impressed by the sunreef 60 and 80 series...they seem even greater value now ??
LimaDelta said:
The smallest yacht I worked on was 54m, and that was 15 years ago, but IIRC the generators were 200kW. Normally for redundancy each should be able to power the vessel (often not the case in practice, given certain operational requirements). I'd guess a 40-50m yacht would have a background load comfortably less than 100kWh, with reductions below that possible. With smaller vessels it is much easier to just turn them off. With big boats that's just not really practical.
Thank you for the insight! Funnily enough this simply power consumption requirements makes a lot more sense why people in the industry tend to speak on gross tonnage rather than x meters. Bas Jaski said:
LimaDelta said:
The smallest yacht I worked on was 54m, and that was 15 years ago, but IIRC the generators were 200kW. Normally for redundancy each should be able to power the vessel (often not the case in practice, given certain operational requirements). I'd guess a 40-50m yacht would have a background load comfortably less than 100kWh, with reductions below that possible. With smaller vessels it is much easier to just turn them off. With big boats that's just not really practical.
Thank you for the insight! Funnily enough this simply power consumption requirements makes a lot more sense why people in the industry tend to speak on gross tonnage rather than x meters. It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
nebpor said:
That was in Scotland a few weeks ago - she's fair getting around!
I was about to say... that was in America not too long ago! It's nice to see a yacht being used. I'd be the super yacht owner the crew would hate - never wanting to leave and wanting to help with the lines when docking 
Luckily yacht crew don't need to worry!
Edited by Petrus1983 on Wednesday 5th July 15:41
nebpor said:
That was in Scotland a few weeks ago - she's fair getting around!
She was in London in May as well and then Dublin.Cool video of her mooring in London here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkaLR0C5vs . After all the effort, she left 45 mins later!
Edited by towser44 on Wednesday 5th July 16:17
LimaDelta said:
LOA is meaningless, as I've discussed on here a couple of times. A 100m boat is not twice as big as a 50m boat, it is more likely six to eight times bigger, and will have 6-8 times higher running costs as a result. You might get away with 10 crew on a 50m, and a 100m is likely to have closer to 50 (which is arguable still not enough, but larger boats tend to have lower utilisation than smaller boats). Gross tonnage is a measure of the useable internal area (nothing to do with weight, really) and gives a much better idea of relative sizes.
It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
Genuine question. Is gross tonnage the same as displacement?It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
blueg33 said:
LimaDelta said:
LOA is meaningless, as I've discussed on here a couple of times. A 100m boat is not twice as big as a 50m boat, it is more likely six to eight times bigger, and will have 6-8 times higher running costs as a result. You might get away with 10 crew on a 50m, and a 100m is likely to have closer to 50 (which is arguable still not enough, but larger boats tend to have lower utilisation than smaller boats). Gross tonnage is a measure of the useable internal area (nothing to do with weight, really) and gives a much better idea of relative sizes.
It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
Genuine question. Is gross tonnage the same as displacement?It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
LimaDelta said:
blueg33 said:
LimaDelta said:
LOA is meaningless, as I've discussed on here a couple of times. A 100m boat is not twice as big as a 50m boat, it is more likely six to eight times bigger, and will have 6-8 times higher running costs as a result. You might get away with 10 crew on a 50m, and a 100m is likely to have closer to 50 (which is arguable still not enough, but larger boats tend to have lower utilisation than smaller boats). Gross tonnage is a measure of the useable internal area (nothing to do with weight, really) and gives a much better idea of relative sizes.
It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
Genuine question. Is gross tonnage the same as displacement?It's a trap new owners often fall into (not helped by brokers and management companies who may not be painting an entirely accurate picture lest they lose their commissions!) when their new boat arrives and the running costs have suddenly quadrupled. Usually it is down to the crew to sit them down and have a chat.
Some really good vids here of Superyacht Loon (ex Icon) by her crew giving lots of insight into the yacht and how its run.
https://www.youtube.com/@motoryachtloon
https://www.youtube.com/@motoryachtloon
Saw this monster up close yesterday, moored off marina piccolo, Capri. Nebula
https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial...
https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial...
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