Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

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yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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irocfan said:
not being a smart alec - but is that where the marine in Supermarine Spitfire comes from?
Yes. They started under another name, but within a few years became Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd. Bought out by Vickers (or Vickers-Armstrong) about a decade later, the Supermarine name continued to be used. The Spitfire was their first land plane since the First World War, as they'd mainly been specialising in monoplane float planes (for racing) and biplane flying boats.

Their original factory was on the River Itchen at Woolston, Southampton, not too far from the Solent Sky Aviation Museum on the other side of the river. A complex of flats called Spitfire Court now stands on the site, off Mitchell Close/Wharf Road, almost right under the Itchen Bridge... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oakbank+Rd,+Wool...

tog

4,552 posts

229 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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yellowjack said:
Yes. They started under another name, but within a few years became Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd. Bought out by Vickers (or Vickers-Armstrong) about a decade later, the Supermarine name continued to be used. The Spitfire was their first land plane since the First World War, as they'd mainly been specialising in monoplane float planes (for racing) and biplane flying boats.

Their original factory was on the River Itchen at Woolston, Southampton, not too far from the Solent Sky Aviation Museum on the other side of the river. A complex of flats called Spitfire Court now stands on the site, off Mitchell Close/Wharf Road, almost right under the Itchen Bridge... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oakbank+Rd,+Wool...
Supermarine had a works in Swindon too. I think 170-odd Sptifires and Seafires were built there, some Shorts Stirlings, and lots of jets in the 1950s. The name survives in the form of Supermarine RFC and Swindon Supermarine FC, remnants of the old works social clubs.

Eric Mc

122,165 posts

266 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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The original company was called Pemberton-Billings and they built flying boats during WW1. Like a lot of aircraft manufacturers, they went bust (or were deliberately liquidated) as soon as orders dried up at the end of the war. However, also like so many companies, they were fairly quickly reformed under a new name - Supermarine. They chose the name Supermarine as it means "above the water" - which they felt was appropriate given their location (on the Solent) and the fact that they built flying boats.

yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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tog said:
Supermarine had a works in Swindon too. I think 170-odd Sptifires and Seafires were built there, some Shorts Stirlings, and lots of jets in the 1950s. The name survives in the form of Supermarine RFC and Swindon Supermarine FC, remnants of the old works social clubs.
I've been to "The Swindon Submarines" (Swindon Supermarine FC) for a Farnborough FC away fixture or two. The ground is at the back of the industrial estate behind the South Marston Honda factory. Called the Submarines because they were often found diving toward the bottom of the table...

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CanAm

9,302 posts

273 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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james_TW said:
CanAm said:
Then I suppose you've never heard of the Spitfires carrying 2 passengers, in "body bags" strapped to the wings?
Um. Nope hehe
They tried it with dummies and it was fine, but they didn’t get many volunteers for the live trials. Well, none actually, and it never went any further.

CanAm

9,302 posts

273 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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yellowjack said:
Yes. They started under another name, but within a few years became Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd. Bought out by Vickers (or Vickers-Armstrong) about a decade later, the Supermarine name continued to be used. The Spitfire was their first land plane since the First World War, as they'd mainly been specialising in monoplane float planes (for racing) and biplane flying boats.

There was also the disappointing gull wing Type 224, of which I think only one prototype was built
Edited by CanAm on Monday 30th November 17:51

Speed 3

4,636 posts

120 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I never knew Sud fitted the aft-fan CJ805 we we discussed a few pages back to the Caravelle for a proposed TWA order.


Eric Mc

122,165 posts

266 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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CanAm said:
yellowjack said:
Yes. They started under another name, but within a few years became Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd. Bought out by Vickers (or Vickers-Armstrong) about a decade later, the Supermarine name continued to be used. The Spitfire was their first land plane since the First World War, as they'd mainly been specialising in monoplane float planes (for racing) and biplane flying boats.

There was also the disappointing gull wing Type 224, of which I think only one prototype was built
Edited by CanAm on Monday 30th November 17:51
RJ Mitchell's comment was "We can do better than this". The 224 was slower than the Gladiator - which was a biplane.

irocfan

40,662 posts

191 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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tog

4,552 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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irocfan said:
WTF? Surely the CoG is way off to let that happen?

MartG

20,717 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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tog said:
irocfan said:
WTF? Surely the CoG is way off to let that happen?
Cornering too fast when taxying - basically a Reliant Robin with wings wink

irocfan

40,662 posts

191 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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MartG said:
tog said:
irocfan said:
WTF? Surely the CoG is way off to let that happen?
Cornering too fast when taxying - basically a Reliant Robin with wings wink
According to what I read on the photo it was taxiing behind a B1 which was running a full bore engine test....

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Supermarine was always synonymous with the Schneider trophy.

Some of the most beautiful aircraft were the Schneider Trophy entries from the U.K. and Italy or France

Check out the supermarine s6




Or the s5





Or Italian entries like the macchi mc 72




LotusOmega375D

7,712 posts

154 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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irocfan said:
Leaning jowler?

NM62

952 posts

151 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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LotusOmega375D said:
irocfan said:
Leaning jowler?
Still got that game laugh

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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NM62 said:
LotusOmega375D said:
irocfan said:
Leaning jowler?
Still got that game laugh
Would be better if it were an A10 Warthog.

Speed 3

4,636 posts

120 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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james_TW

16,291 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Speed 3 said:
How are these filled up / What's the turnaround time for this where there's a massive forest fire somewhere?

naturals

351 posts

184 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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james_TW said:
How are these filled up / What's the turnaround time for this where there's a massive forest fire somewhere?
This article (which appears to be about the exact same airframe) reckons half an hour. I didn't know they use compressed air to push the liquid out quickly. Gravity alone would be too slow.

https://fireaviation.com/2017/01/27/how-to-refill-...

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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