Two Mossies appearing together next weekend 21/22 Sept.

[tdm34]

If I wasn't working, I'd be making my first trip to California..

I'm sure there will be some footage via the usual channels.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/two-iconic-de...

[zsdom]

There’ll be a Mosquito in the UK soon and if TPM keep their funding up there’ll be two

[aeropilot]

tdm34 said:

If I wasn't working, I'd be making my first trip to California..

I'm sure there will be some footage via the usual channels.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/two-iconic-de...

I can remember going to the Biggin Hill Air Fair in '87 as they had planned to fly RR299 with RS712 at the show, but, PPS had a problem with RS712 on show day, and it sadly stayed on the ground at Biggin.

[UK_Scat_Pack]

zsdom said:

There’ll be a Mosquito in the UK soon and if TPM keep their funding up there’ll be two

There already is one! It’s taxing and everything. Just don’t know how long it will take to get its airworthiness certificate.

[aeropilot]

UK_Scat_Pack said:

zsdom said:

There’ll be a Mosquito in the UK soon and if TPM keep their funding up there’ll be two

There already is one! It’s taxing and everything. Just don’t know how long it will take to get its airworthiness certificate.

As I guess you are referring to Tony Agar's NF.II at East Kirkby, then the answer to that question, is it will never get an airworthiness certificate, as its a composite built from various airframes, all of which are non-airworthy.
Tony has done an amazing job over the decades getting it to be able to run and taxi, but it will never fly as it is.

It would need a complete new build fuselage and wing structures from NZ, and all systems and engines rebuilt to airworthy, which could be done of course, but, you'll need about £7m to do that.

[havoc]

Thanks for the heads-up - will start googling...

[tdm34]

First photo released

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Z79mkXE69VMwj28a/...

[UK_Scat_Pack]

aeropilot said:

As I guess you are referring to Tony Agar's NF.II at East Kirkby, then the answer to that question, is it will never get an airworthiness certificate, as its a composite built from various airframes, all of which are non-airworthy.
Tony has done an amazing job over the decades getting it to be able to run and taxi, but it will never fly as it is.

It would need a complete new build fuselage and wing structures from NZ, and all systems and engines rebuilt to airworthy, which could be done of course, but, you'll need about £7m to do that.

I did not know that. They keep quoting about getting it airworthy. Good to know. It’s a pity.

[gt40steve]

UK_Scat_Pack said:

aeropilot said:

As I guess you are referring to Tony Agar's NF.II at East Kirkby, then the answer to that question, is it will never get an airworthiness certificate, as its a composite built from various airframes, all of which are non-airworthy.
Tony has done an amazing job over the decades getting it to be able to run and taxi, but it will never fly as it is.

It would need a complete new build fuselage and wing structures from NZ, and all systems and engines rebuilt to airworthy, which could be done of course, but, you'll need about £7m to do that.

I did not know that. They keep quoting about getting it airworthy. Good to know. It’s a pity.

The Panton families Lancaster NX611 is the plane being rebuilt to airworthy status at East Kirkby.

[aeropilot]

tdm34 said:

First photo released

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Z79mkXE69VMwj28a/...

Wonderful sight. And at altitude as well

While its 38 years since two Mosquito's were last seen flying together (RR299 & RS712) its 61 years since the last time two solid nose Mosquito's flew together, as you have to go back to the final year of No.3 CAACU operations at Exeter with the Mosquito in 1963, when both of the T.3's they had on strength last flew together, TV959 and the much missed RR299, as seen below.

[aeropilot]

UK_Scat_Pack said:

aeropilot said:

As I guess you are referring to Tony Agar's NF.II at East Kirkby, then the answer to that question, is it will never get an airworthiness certificate, as its a composite built from various airframes, all of which are non-airworthy.
Tony has done an amazing job over the decades getting it to be able to run and taxi, but it will never fly as it is.

It would need a complete new build fuselage and wing structures from NZ, and all systems and engines rebuilt to airworthy, which could be done of course, but, you'll need about £7m to do that.

I did not know that. They keep quoting about getting it airworthy.

I've never seen any mention from Tony about getting airworthy, indeed, it was always specifically said, that was never the intention.
As mentioned above, are you sure you don't mean the Lancaster rather than the Mosquito that is being progressively returned to airworthy...?

[tdm34]

Here's confidence in your Mossie......


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/HKhHhn4TRCrvYLXV/

[FourWheelDrift]

Kermit Weeks visited the new Mosquito Mk 98 as it was being assembled.

[aeropilot]

FourWheelDrift said:

Kermit Weeks visited the new Mosquito Mk 98 as it was being assembled.

Yes, I watched that the other day, and was laughing my head off at the perplexed look on the faces of the Avspecs guys as Kermit demonstrated that he really has very little technical knowledge, and he clearly didn't know how an intercooler worked.

I met Kermit once back in 1989 at his old facility in Tamiami and I can relate to the look on their faces.

Its also a T.43, not a Mark 98......which never existed.

Probably confusing over the DH98 type reference to the Mosquito design by de Havilland.

Edited by aeropilot on Monday 23 September 14:26

[UK_Scat_Pack]

aeropilot said:

As I guess you are referring to Tony Agar's NF.II at East Kirkby, then the answer to that question, is it will never get an airworthiness certificate, as its a composite built from various airframes, all of which are non-airworthy.
Tony has done an amazing job over the decades getting it to be able to run and taxi, but it will never fly as it is.

It would need a complete new build fuselage and wing structures from NZ, and all systems and engines rebuilt to airworthy, which could be done of course, but, you'll need about £7m to do that.

I did not know that. They keep quoting about getting it airworthy. Good to know. It’s a pity.

[FourWheelDrift]

aeropilot said:

Yes, I watched that the other day, and was laughing my head off at the perplexed look on the faces of the Avspecs guys as Kermit demonstrated that he really has very little technical knowledge, and he clearly didn't know how an intercooler worked.

I met Kermit once back in 1989 at his old facility in Tamiami and I can relate to the look on their faces.

Its also a T.43, not a Mark 98......which never existed.

Probably confusing over the DH98 type reference to the Mosquito design by de Havilland.

Edited by aeropilot on Monday 23 September 14:26

Yep, I just quickly pasted from the video description, but I remember T Mk.43 mentioned and even looked online about it as I was intrigued by the different engines and twin controls.

[aeropilot]

FourWheelDrift said:

aeropilot said:

Yes, I watched that the other day, and was laughing my head off at the perplexed look on the faces of the Avspecs guys as Kermit demonstrated that he really has very little technical knowledge, and he clearly didn't know how an intercooler worked.

I met Kermit once back in 1989 at his old facility in Tamiami and I can relate to the look on their faces.

Its also a T.43, not a Mark 98......which never existed.

Probably confusing over the DH98 type reference to the Mosquito design by de Havilland.

Edited by aeropilot on Monday 23 September 14:26

Yep, I just quickly pasted from the video description, but I remember T Mk.43 mentioned and even looked online about it as I was intrigued by the different engines and twin controls.

Its added confusion, as the T.43 was basically the same as the UK made T.3 (as BAe's RR299 was) but the new US owners who have paid the money to build it, wanted it to look like a FB.6 so the guns and cannon's (well part of the cannons) have been added, which would never have been fitted to a dual control T.3/T.43.
This aircraft was originally to be built as a FB.40 (the Aussie version of the FB.6) but mid-construction it was changed to a T.43 and the dual controls were added and armament deleted.

[tdm34]

Video…… it’s a bit dusty in here!

https://youtu.be/QcDW4gBaCTY