RAF jets in Iraq
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petemurphy said:
have they actually thought of finding out where ISIS are buying all these shiny new 4x4's from?? maybe tell them to stop selling them??
Someone popped down the local dealer but apparently they're paying full price, no haggling. It's just not British.petemurphy said:
wouldnt apaches be better and cheaper for this sort of thing or are they all on top gear?
Yes, that's it.Simpo Two said:
No but how much did the missile cost that blew up the $2,000 pick-up?
A Spitfire could have one the same job.
Apparently, the Brimstone guided bomb/missile cost £175k a pop (or a drop/bang)!A Spitfire could have one the same job.
And you need a £10M Tornado, with a £6M flight crew, and a £35k/hr air time cost to take out that Hilux..........
petemurphy said:
have they actually thought of finding out where ISIS are buying all these shiny new 4x4's from?? maybe tell them to stop selling them?? wouldnt apaches be better and cheaper for this sort of thing or are they all on top gear?
Yes I imagine flying from Cyprus to Iraq in an Apache would be the ideal scenario. I'm surprised top brass haven't thought of it. Give the MOD a call to help them along.DuraAce said:
Yes I imagine flying from Cyprus to Iraq in an Apache would be the ideal scenario. I'm surprised top brass haven't thought of it. Give the MOD a call to help them along.
as iraq invited us to help couldnt they fly from there? sorry for not knowing the precise flight range like you u must be an interesting fellow.DuraAce said:
Yes I imagine flying from Cyprus to Iraq in an Apache would be the ideal scenario. I'm surprised top brass haven't thought of it. Give the MOD a call to help them along.
wow america can fly them all the way from the usa they must be amazinghttp://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-sending-a...
DuraAce said:
Yes I imagine flying from Cyprus to Iraq in an Apache would be the ideal scenario. I'm surprised top brass haven't thought of it. Give the MOD a call to help them along.
Given the level of MANPADS (as well as small arms) out there, including 'double digit' SAMS (eg SA 16) as well as Stingers, an Attack Helicopter is the last thing you'd want to use. As the Americans found out last time around Karbala.Using Apache helicopters wouldn't offer much of a saving. Firstly you would need to base them locally, that would require you to deploy boots on the ground and in fair numbers, that would be politically bad news as well as pricey.
Add in the cost per hour to run the Apache (£46k) and your only saving grace is you can fire 30mm cannon shells at Toyota's instead of brimstone missiles.
Add in the cost per hour to run the Apache (£46k) and your only saving grace is you can fire 30mm cannon shells at Toyota's instead of brimstone missiles.
DuraAce said:
Yes I imagine flying from Cyprus to Iraq in an Apache would be the ideal scenario. I'm surprised top brass haven't thought of it. Give the MOD a call to help them along.
Hmm, what we need is some kind of floating platform, like a small airbase, that floats at sea. And maybe it could have an engine so you could move it about? That would be really handy.We'll let V8Ford float off in the wrong direction.
Simpo Two said:
Hmm, what we need is some kind of floating platform, like a small airbase, that floats at sea. And maybe it could have an engine so you could move it about? That would be really handy.
We'll let V8Ford float off in the wrong direction.
You mean like Cyprus, pretty ideal position for supporting the Turks in Northern Iraq.We'll let V8Ford float off in the wrong direction.
Max_Torque said:
Apparently, the Brimstone guided bomb/missile cost £175k a pop (or a drop/bang)!
And you need a £10M Tornado, with a £6M flight crew, and a £35k/hr air time cost to take out that Hilux..........
Pfff, I watched all those Top Gear episodes that implied the Hilux was bomb proof, just shows what a load of bks that program is And you need a £10M Tornado, with a £6M flight crew, and a £35k/hr air time cost to take out that Hilux..........
Article on it here..
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...
£150k anti tank missile for a jeep seems a little much but never mind, job done.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...
£150k anti tank missile for a jeep seems a little much but never mind, job done.
jogon said:
Article on it here..
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...
£150k anti tank missile for a jeep seems a little much but never mind, job done.
Wouldn't take too much from that article - few glaring errors in it....http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...
£150k anti tank missile for a jeep seems a little much but never mind, job done.
IanMorewood said:
You mean like Cyprus, pretty ideal position for supporting the Turks in Northern Iraq.
I understood from another poster than Cyprus was too far away for helicopter operations. But whatever, it seems an awful waste of resources using RAF jets to attack pick-ups. I'm sure the operation is more for PR than military sense, but agree it is good training/target practice Max_Torque said:
Apparently, the Brimstone guided bomb/missile cost £175k a pop (or a drop/bang)!
And you need a £10M Tornado, with a £6M flight crew, and a £35k/hr air time cost to take out that Hilux..........
You're making the common assumption that the military value of a target is proportional to its' cash value. And you need a £10M Tornado, with a £6M flight crew, and a £35k/hr air time cost to take out that Hilux..........
Robert McNamara also assumed that wars could be fought on Dollars & Cents basis.
As somebody once said, 'Assumption is the mother of all fk-ups'
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