Suez blocked by stuck ship!

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anonymous-user

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56 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Some one is going to get a big bill for this one:



That's the MV #EVERGIVEN 400m long / 59m wide of a Gross tonnage: 219,079 Capacity: 20,388 TEUs

And it's stuck sideways and by the looks of it, aground in the middle of one of the buisiess ship canals in the world!

DOH!


I think they are going to need a bigger digger........

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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PushedDover said:
Is this not Captain Balfour just approaching the riverbank to pick up some guests ?
hehe


anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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PushedDover said:
Is this not Captain Balfour just approaching the riverbank to pick up some guests ?
Have another thumbup

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Given how much of the red "below the water line" hull paint you can see, i think it's safe to say this one is pretty "hard" aground! The stiction between the hull and the canal bottom is going to be enourmous even without a significant proportion of the ships massive weight pressing down on the interface.

Removing containers in situ is going to be hard as well. There are thousands off them, the ship is stuck at about 45 degrees across the canal, and the upper containers which must come off first must be about 50m above water level. Surely only a very large floating jib crane is going to be able to get access, unless they can build some sort of bodged up jib comming out from the shore line, but that seems rather hard on sand (ie no solid foundation) and the ship is 400m long, so there are few cranes with anything like enough reach / height capability?


anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Ashfordian said:
Wouldn't some on-land winching solution on both sides of the canal provide more force to drag this than tugs that only have water as resistance?

Would need some strong and long cables and possibly a lot of winches combined
Techically this is probably the best and most controlled solution, but i'm going to guess the necessary hardware to do this, and the installation of suitable ground anchours (in sand) to react tens of thousands of tonnes of force, is not something you just arrange to do "tomorrow"......

Judging by the red painted water line, the bow looks to be at least 5m up out of the water from it's normal level, and that means a massive vertical load must be present (someone could knock out the buoyancy calcs to estimate just how much!) so with the friction of the mud and sand upon which the front 1/4 of the ships bottom is sitting, the line pulls are going to be absolutely massive.

Pulling the stern around and using the hull as a lever is more likely to work rather than a straight back pull, especially as the stern/rudde must be pretty close to, if not touching the other bank.....

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Clifford Chambers said:
Apply some tension on a line, wait till you've a decent tide and a following wind, it'll pop out like a Cork from a bottle.
Is it tidal?

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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thewarlock said:
catweasle said:
s it tidal?
Yes, all at sea level, no locks.
Quick goggle found this............seems the variation in levels is not great though.

Does seem like there is a current that varies in direction so drifting kinda makes sense if it lost power completely....especially if it was also windy.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240441695...

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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motco said:
Someone on 'Today' this morning said that as each end is supporting the weight of the entire ship and cargo, it is possible that it will 'sag in the middle'. In that event a bypass might be a good idea!
And this is why you shouldn't list to anyone on the TV or radio! Literally 1 second looking at the picture and the water line relative to the plimsol line shows one this is clearly not the case!

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
Riley Blue said:
Accepted practice in the RN at one time. From my Dad's memoirs:

"Our next port of call was Singapore where we had a large naval dockyard with a recently completed dry dock able to accommodate our battle cruisers. We stayed for a while and I was able to make many visits to this large city with its industrious population. I was intrigued by the way in which the ship was turned round. The bow was gently nosed into the soft paddy fields with water buffaloes looking up in bewilderment and, with the stern in deep water, the ship gently eased round to steam off for our ultimate destination, the naval dockyard at Hong Kong."

The year: 1938.
The ship: the heavy cruiser HMS Kent.
That's how you turn a canal barge, there are V-shaped 'nicks' in the bank to nose into.
I was just about to say the same....although much smaller than HMS Kent or this ship I did it many times in my barge especially in the river as it is a lot easier to let the water flow do the work.

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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m3jappa said:
105.4 said:
Funk said:
rofl

Bravo Sir, bravo clap
I do like that hehe brilliant
hehe

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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I was just reading on the news that it is still stuck, but yesterday apparently it was free?

Any accurate updates?

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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Dan_1981 said:
Here's a very basic question...

Does the canal have a current? Which way does it flow?

And if the boat is grounded - as in properly stuck isn't the flow of water restricted some what... why isn't it have a damn like effect? or is the boat still pretty much floating but just stuck at both ends?
I posted a link yesterday that seemed to say that because of the different levels at each end there is a current and it's direction varies.

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
Sheepshanks said:
Simpo Two said:
ZymoTech said:
And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?
If there are no locks it's at sea level. So the water doesn't need to be kept in...
Must admit I was surprised when they were talking about high tide - wonder what the height range is?
I posted this yesterday which seems to confirm the range is not very much.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240441695...

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Right, what they need to do is build a dam across the canal on each side of the ship, then pump water in-between them to raise the level around the ship until it floats off. Then move the ship until its in the middle and pointing the right way, then blow the dams up.
And what will they do after lunch??? ;-)

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
good photo of the village near it


Does it have a Tesco? Perhaps it's got a shopping trolley wrapped around the prop.......you may laugh but it happened to me on the K & A canal.

anonymous-user

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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Tye Green said:
it seems that water level is about 18m which doesn't sound much to support a 200,000 ton ship?
Google 'Archimedes principle', all will be clear!

anonymous-user

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Friday 26th March 2021
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andy_s said:
The Cautionary Tales podcast on this was very good. Tim Harford.
He’s got a new series out now also.

anonymous-user

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Friday 26th March 2021
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When a 4x4 gets stuck, they use other 4x4s in tandem to pull it out...

So why not link tankers togeather to pull it out?

anonymous-user

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Friday 26th March 2021
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bad company said:
laugh

anonymous-user

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Friday 26th March 2021
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Suprised musk hasn't got involved.