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McDonald's is junk food, because good restaurant food tastes better. Seems like a fairly mainstream opinion.
Why does classy restaurant food taste so good?
Salt, sugar and loads of fat. Butter, oil, butter, oil, more butter, seasoning, seasoning, seasoning...
Take that lovely, lean steak that's so much healthier than a McDonalds.... Double the portion size, because a quarter pound, well that's only 4oz. Fine for a £1.99 burger, but this is steak don't you know, so 4oz seems a bit stingy, and obviously we need twice as much protein as the working classes after a hard day at our mahogany desks!
Now, sprinkle it with salt and pepper. Sea salt mind, because the sea is part of nature, so it's more healthy. None of that unhealthy chemical-sounding sodium chloride stuff they use in McDonald's. Onto a hot skillet it goes, with plenty butter, baste it continuously in butter, and when it's resting, slap on a knob of butter. We don't want it to taste dry, like a McDonald's patty, do we? Don't under any circumstances use that high-calorie non-organic butter; that stuff only belongs in little gold foil wrappers at Travel Lodges. Off to the table with our steak. Oh, wait, a quick season with sea salt first. Right, à table!
Serve with chunky artisan posh triple-cooked chips (boiled in salt water, deep fried twice in solvent-extracted vegetable oil) and some fresh, healthy green beans (salted, tossed in oily vinaigrette) and some sweet, organic baby carrots (glazed with brown sugar, salted, buttered).
Mmmmmm, absolutely delicious. Must be healthy, because it's so much tastier and more expensive than a Big Mac, right?
And of course, let's share a bottle of nice, healthy red.. this steak deserves it, and we're not Neanderthals like those McDonald's clients with their diet cokes.
So, out of McDonalds and the 28 day aged prime Aberdeen Angus offcuts, which is more open about their sourcing, cooking methods, preparation standards and calorific contents?
With a very small number of exceptions, eating out is largely a terrifyingly calorific experience wherever you eat. Only the window-dressing changes. I don't care if the ingredients were foraged by naked virgins, liberally sprinkled with Michelin stardust, and served by a maître d' with an impossibly neat moustache, it is still entirely likely that by the time they hit your plate, you're still consuming 2000 calories of boozy salty fatty food.
Ignorance is the problem, not the price point of your meal. Eat what you want, and enjoy every salty, fatty mouthful. Just don't do it too often.
Why does classy restaurant food taste so good?
Salt, sugar and loads of fat. Butter, oil, butter, oil, more butter, seasoning, seasoning, seasoning...
Take that lovely, lean steak that's so much healthier than a McDonalds.... Double the portion size, because a quarter pound, well that's only 4oz. Fine for a £1.99 burger, but this is steak don't you know, so 4oz seems a bit stingy, and obviously we need twice as much protein as the working classes after a hard day at our mahogany desks!
Now, sprinkle it with salt and pepper. Sea salt mind, because the sea is part of nature, so it's more healthy. None of that unhealthy chemical-sounding sodium chloride stuff they use in McDonald's. Onto a hot skillet it goes, with plenty butter, baste it continuously in butter, and when it's resting, slap on a knob of butter. We don't want it to taste dry, like a McDonald's patty, do we? Don't under any circumstances use that high-calorie non-organic butter; that stuff only belongs in little gold foil wrappers at Travel Lodges. Off to the table with our steak. Oh, wait, a quick season with sea salt first. Right, à table!
Serve with chunky artisan posh triple-cooked chips (boiled in salt water, deep fried twice in solvent-extracted vegetable oil) and some fresh, healthy green beans (salted, tossed in oily vinaigrette) and some sweet, organic baby carrots (glazed with brown sugar, salted, buttered).
Mmmmmm, absolutely delicious. Must be healthy, because it's so much tastier and more expensive than a Big Mac, right?
And of course, let's share a bottle of nice, healthy red.. this steak deserves it, and we're not Neanderthals like those McDonald's clients with their diet cokes.
So, out of McDonalds and the 28 day aged prime Aberdeen Angus offcuts, which is more open about their sourcing, cooking methods, preparation standards and calorific contents?
With a very small number of exceptions, eating out is largely a terrifyingly calorific experience wherever you eat. Only the window-dressing changes. I don't care if the ingredients were foraged by naked virgins, liberally sprinkled with Michelin stardust, and served by a maître d' with an impossibly neat moustache, it is still entirely likely that by the time they hit your plate, you're still consuming 2000 calories of boozy salty fatty food.
Ignorance is the problem, not the price point of your meal. Eat what you want, and enjoy every salty, fatty mouthful. Just don't do it too often.
Fishlegs said:
lots
Agreed, went to Gordon Ramsay's for a tasting menu. 14 courses including all the mini ones plus a few glasses of wine. Maybe 4000 calories? Stomach couldn't cope, rejected it. McDonalds meal for a fiver only 1000 calories and it fits nicely in my belly.
Ergo, McDonalds the healthy and cost-effective option.
smack said:
As for McD's, I had a birthday at my local one when I was primary school (a long time ago!), but it was a really big thing back then. They give us a section of the restaurant, we ran around like lunatics around after the burgers and fries sugar hit. Stupidly they finished it giving a bunch of already hypo kids ice-cream cake, with plastic spoons, which were a perfect catapult for launching the desert, which quickly escalated into a full on food flight with parents and innocent parties having to duck for cover, but unfortunately there was some collateral damage! I sure my parents were horrified, but it was one of the few childhood birthdays I remembered.
I've already posted on this thread about having previously worked in McDonalds - what I didn't mention in that post was that I used to host the birthday parties on a Sunday. It was fantastic fun. The store I worked in had an upstairs, so we used to use it exclusively for parties on Sundays. I was teamed up with a girl who worked there (just friends) and we used spend the morning preparing - and then do 5 or 6 parties from 12 noon onwards. As well as being paid by McDonalds, we used to get pretty good tips too. Basically we fed them, then spent about 1/2 leading party games for the kids, then cake and then on to the next party. We let the kids run riot and the parties were massively popular. We didn't really care about the mess they made, we'd set each party up in a different area and then clear up when they were all done. I think the parents liked it more than the kids.omniflow said:
I've already posted on this thread about having previously worked in McDonalds - what I didn't mention in that post was that I used to host the birthday parties on a Sunday. It was fantastic fun. The store I worked in had an upstairs, so we used to use it exclusively for parties on Sundays. I was teamed up with a girl who worked there (just friends) and we used spend the morning preparing - and then do 5 or 6 parties from 12 noon onwards. As well as being paid by McDonalds, we used to get pretty good tips too. Basically we fed them, then spent about 1/2 leading party games for the kids, then cake and then on to the next party. We let the kids run riot and the parties were massively popular. We didn't really care about the mess they made, we'd set each party up in a different area and then clear up when they were all done. I think the parents liked it more than the kids.
We thank you for your service Can you explain the badge system that staff wear, and what each badge meant please? I always felt a sense of satisfaction whenever I got served by a five star MacDonalds General
Fishlegs said:
Lots of good stuff... Eat what you want, and enjoy every salty, fatty mouthful. Just don't do it too often.
Spot on Fishlegs.I get irritated by the sanctimonious posters every time someone even so much as mentions one of the fast food outlets on any thread. You know they're incoming as soon as someone posts a message with "McDs", "KFC" or "Dominos" - so much hypocrisy, bullst and baseless judgement in all their posts. When challenged they can't actually say why the food is so bad compared to anywhere else, it's just pure class based snobbery.
I always laugh at any of the cooks on TV as they are making something as simple as mash, and throwing in huge quantities of cream, butter and salt. No wonder their mash is tasty, the calorie and fat content must be horrendous!
For me, I love all the fast food stuff, you just don't eat it everyday!
Piersman2 said:
Spot on Fishlegs.
I get irritated by the sanctimonious posters every time someone even so much as mentions one of the fast food outlets on any thread. You know they're incoming as soon as someone posts a message with "McDs", "KFC" or "Dominos" - so much hypocrisy, bullst and baseless judgement in all their posts. When challenged they can't actually say why the food is so bad compared to anywhere else, it's just pure class based snobbery.
I always laugh at any of the cooks on TV as they are making something as simple as mash, and throwing in huge quantities of cream, butter and salt. No wonder their mash is tasty, the calorie and fat content must be horrendous!
For me, I love all the fast food stuff, you just don't eat it everyday!
I do think there is some room for fast food snobbery.I get irritated by the sanctimonious posters every time someone even so much as mentions one of the fast food outlets on any thread. You know they're incoming as soon as someone posts a message with "McDs", "KFC" or "Dominos" - so much hypocrisy, bullst and baseless judgement in all their posts. When challenged they can't actually say why the food is so bad compared to anywhere else, it's just pure class based snobbery.
I always laugh at any of the cooks on TV as they are making something as simple as mash, and throwing in huge quantities of cream, butter and salt. No wonder their mash is tasty, the calorie and fat content must be horrendous!
For me, I love all the fast food stuff, you just don't eat it everyday!
For example:
Dominos is ste compared to Papa Johns.
No fast food burger place has ever managed to fill the void in the UK that was left by Wendy's (I think there was an ') - it may still exist in other countries, but it's gone from the UK
The Burger King burger concept is great, but there's something a bit off about their beef patties that ruins it (or maybe it's how they cook them, I think they pre-cook them and then keep them warm)
KFC is better than Chicken Cottage
Piersman2 said:
Spot on Fishlegs.
I get irritated by the sanctimonious posters every time someone even so much as mentions one of the fast food outlets on any thread. You know they're incoming as soon as someone posts a message with "McDs", "KFC" or "Dominos" - so much hypocrisy, bullst and baseless judgement in all their posts. When challenged they can't actually say why the food is so bad compared to anywhere else, it's just pure class based snobbery.
I always laugh at any of the cooks on TV as they are making something as simple as mash, and throwing in huge quantities of cream, butter and salt. No wonder their mash is tasty, the calorie and fat content must be horrendous!
For me, I love all the fast food stuff, you just don't eat it everyday!
I agree.I get irritated by the sanctimonious posters every time someone even so much as mentions one of the fast food outlets on any thread. You know they're incoming as soon as someone posts a message with "McDs", "KFC" or "Dominos" - so much hypocrisy, bullst and baseless judgement in all their posts. When challenged they can't actually say why the food is so bad compared to anywhere else, it's just pure class based snobbery.
I always laugh at any of the cooks on TV as they are making something as simple as mash, and throwing in huge quantities of cream, butter and salt. No wonder their mash is tasty, the calorie and fat content must be horrendous!
For me, I love all the fast food stuff, you just don't eat it everyday!
The other night i was messaging a friend, the discussion about dinner came up. I said I was contemplating ordering a pizza 'not very healthy' the idiot said.
The idiot happened to be eating half of iceland. Oven chips, burgers and fried garlic dough balls.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
I think this should be in the health section.... sorry its not a restaurant.
This week I forgot to sort my lunch out so I drove to a nearby McDonald's drive through.
The meal that I chose was near on 1,000 calories.
It was tepid. Reminded me that every meal I've had from there is tepid.
My point is how are there constant queues at such places? Such love. Yes its convenient but so is a pork pie.
Looking at the board the calories counts are off the scale. Really bloody are.
How have we've sleep walked into putting up with such a place on every street literally.
I think it’s great, and it’s never been served tepid.This week I forgot to sort my lunch out so I drove to a nearby McDonald's drive through.
The meal that I chose was near on 1,000 calories.
It was tepid. Reminded me that every meal I've had from there is tepid.
My point is how are there constant queues at such places? Such love. Yes its convenient but so is a pork pie.
Looking at the board the calories counts are off the scale. Really bloody are.
How have we've sleep walked into putting up with such a place on every street literally.
1,000 calories for your largest meal of the day is fine.
Dr Jekyll said:
I used to like Golden Egg, when did they disappear?
The last time I was in one it was in a 70s shopping centre in the 70s. Smoke and the smell of chip fat, iirc. Sounds like yours was better.McD was promoted as being different from that with 'American standards of cleanliness and service' I remember at the time.
ambuletz said:
The other night i was messaging a friend, the discussion about dinner came up. I said I was contemplating ordering a pizza 'not very healthy' the idiot said.
The idiot happened to be eating half of iceland. Oven chips, burgers and fried garlic dough balls.
The idiot happened to be eating half of iceland. Oven chips, burgers and fried garlic dough balls.
Bacon Is Proof said:
Marketing and laziness, particularly of thought.
With the youth it's just following the herd.
They have no place in a forum section for people that actively enjoy food.
The same way that someone with a Micra has no place on a forum for car enthusiasts?With the youth it's just following the herd.
They have no place in a forum section for people that actively enjoy food.
Why did you buy that, laziness, or just following the herd?
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