'Thor's hammer' beef joint - wow!

[hidetheelephants]

It's cheap meat from the council end of the beast; don't have a cow, man. Nasty is subjective and meaningless; you could cook the finest ribeye badly and it could taste like shoe leather, that wouldn't make ribeye nasty meat.

[Jordie Barretts sock]

Which makes that particular offering from Tesco stupidly expensive.

But as I said, those that don't know will say the Emperor looks magnificent.

[fttm]

NWTony said:

soupdragon1 said:

fttm said:

soupdragon1 said:

fttm said:

Carry on OP , but as said already do not NOT give the cooked bone to your dog !!

My dog is a Pug, I think the bone is bigger than her. I'm talking about giving her the meat on the bone, rather than her actually eating the bone, which would be impossible I think. Is it still harmful for them to eat around it, despite not actually eating the bone?

Cooked bones will splinter , do not let your dog near it .

Thank you. A straight up answer rather than a snide remark.

I honestly didn't think it would be an issue.

It might splinter, if your dog has chocolates it will die, and grapes for some reason, dogs shouldn't be taken for walks when its hot, or or that matter cold. FFS.

Why the FFS ? You want the OPs dog to choke or are your panties twisted and chafing ? Back on topic , shin cooked slowly can be delicious, but 50 quid is a joke , I pay less than that for a prime rib roast .

[Type R Tom]

Jordie Barretts sock said:

Type R Tom said:

Can I ask while you feel that way about shin?

The short answer is I used to work in the meat trade. It is a very cheap and nasty meat that needs to be cooked incredibly slowly otherwise it is sinewy and tough. It, like oxtail inevitably got faeces all over it at point of slaughter.

There are much better cuts of beef.

Slight digression, my son sent me a menu for the posh cafe he works at while at university. They are charging a fortune for Ox cheek. That was something that used to get thrown in the mincer.

It so funny; I absolutely love ox cheek and pig cheek, too!

[LunarOne]

Beef shin has been the mainstay of stews and slow-cooked dishes for centuries. It's right next to the bone which gives it a lot of flavour, and when cooked in the right way becomes velvety soft and smooth and the connective tissue acts as a natural thickener. It's the base of many good traditional French, Italian and British dishes. The reason it's been cheap is that it's not quick to prepare and is therefore shunned by people who don't know what they're doing. I can imagine that sold in the way Tesco are selling it, it would be pretty awful. But I wouldn't buy pre-packed meat and certainly not meat that's sold with a sauce.

[21TonyK]

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

[RC1807]

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

Aside from the obvious beef vs. lamb.

[RobbieTheTruth]

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

I think the issue is it's £50, and people who don't know their cuts of meat might buy it as a special Christmas treat and I think it's a massive rip off.

It's beef shin. Lovely in stews. Would be pretty bad as a Christmas Day meat IMO.

[21TonyK]

RobbieTheTruth said:

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

I think the issue is it's £50, and people who don't know their cuts of meat might buy it as a special Christmas treat and I think it's a massive rip off.

It's beef shin. Lovely in stews. Would be pretty bad as a Christmas Day meat IMO.

Not my choice but I would imagine the point of it is the novelty not so much the quality.

Supermarkets are very aware if they sell something people don't like or something that requires more than basic culinary skills they are onto a loser in terms of reputation and sales. Tescos know what they are doing and while you or I may not like the idea there are millions out there who would think it's great.

I am no longer surprised by the food standards many find not just acceptable but actually think are good and that's not just the public, that's chefs as well which is really disappointing.

[RobbieTheTruth]

21TonyK said:

RobbieTheTruth said:

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

I think the issue is it's £50, and people who don't know their cuts of meat might buy it as a special Christmas treat and I think it's a massive rip off.

It's beef shin. Lovely in stews. Would be pretty bad as a Christmas Day meat IMO.

Not my choice but I would imagine the point of it is the novelty not so much the quality.

Supermarkets are very aware if they sell something people don't like or something that requires more than basic culinary skills they are onto a loser in terms of reputation and sales. Tescos know what they are doing and while you or I may not like the idea there are millions out there who would think it's great.

I am no longer surprised by the food standards many find not just acceptable but actually think are good and that's not just the public, that's chefs as well which is really disappointing.

I think we agree then?

It's basically a big slab of pre cooked, cheap, stewing meat on a bone for £50.

Aimed at people who haven't twigged it's the cheapest cut you can get and think it's some sort of delicious, carvable table centerpiece.

[21TonyK]

RobbieTheTruth said:

21TonyK said:

RobbieTheTruth said:

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

I think the issue is it's £50, and people who don't know their cuts of meat might buy it as a special Christmas treat and I think it's a massive rip off.

It's beef shin. Lovely in stews. Would be pretty bad as a Christmas Day meat IMO.

Not my choice but I would imagine the point of it is the novelty not so much the quality.

Supermarkets are very aware if they sell something people don't like or something that requires more than basic culinary skills they are onto a loser in terms of reputation and sales. Tescos know what they are doing and while you or I may not like the idea there are millions out there who would think it's great.

I am no longer surprised by the food standards many find not just acceptable but actually think are good and that's not just the public, that's chefs as well which is really disappointing.

I think we agree then?

It's basically a big slab of pre cooked, cheap, stewing meat on a bone for £50.

Aimed at people who haven't twigged it's the cheapest cut you can get and think it's some sort of delicious, carvable table centerpiece.

Yeah I think we definately agree its aimed at those who really dont know what they are buying but the idea of paying over the odds for cheap meat, ribs, wings, hocks etc is nothing unusual.

What is disapointing is the fact that those that buy it will think its delicious and to be fair it probably won't be that bad. It's the mockery of what it is, bit like tommahawk steaks etc

As a very savvy deceased uncle of mine used to say "sell the sizzle, not the steak"

[NWTony]

fttm said:

Why the FFS ? You want the OPs dog to choke or are your panties twisted and chafing ? Back on topic , shin cooked slowly can be delicious, but 50 quid is a joke , I pay less than that for a prime rib roast .

Because people like you are ruining dogs! I grew up with dogs for most of my life and they got bones, chocolate, mince pies, whatever the family as eating and they loved it. For the miniscule risk of the bone splintering the poor dog is missing out on a delicious meaty treat

They also went for joyful walks in all weathers bounding thru snow and running around on hot days too. We threw sticks for them to fetch and they dutifully chased them down and sometimes brought them back.

[2ono]

Local butcher to me does similar sized Thor's Hammers for about £20.00 Good few hours on the KJ, with a nice rub, @about 140 degrees C and the meat is lovely, even better if then taken off the bone and made into a Chilli.

[ATG]

Oi tink there are two separate bones of contention in this thread (if we ignore the canine welfare sub-topic). Selling something at an inflated price is sharp practice, particularly if you set out to pull the wool over the customer's eyes to at least some extent. And secondly, there are loads of cuts of meat that are unpopular in the UK primarily because people don't know how to cook them, whereas they are valued in other cultures that do. Thus being a cheap cut is not the same thing as being a bad cut.

A case in point: tripe. We feed it to dogs, whereas it is the defining ingredient in a lot of French regional cuisine. We chuck snails into the neighbours gardens, the French cook them with garlic and butter. We say "ooh, look! A frog!". The French say "Ee on! Lunch!" Horse, chicken gizzards, etc., etc

Also, if something like this daftly named product introduces people to the idea of slow cooking, then that can only be a very good thing, because it opens up a whole range of cheap, easy and excellent home cooking options.

[48k]

Ironically i spotted my local Tesco are selling this which is cheaper if you want to buy some pre cooked shin to reheat.

[Mobile Chicane]

This is mostly shin and inedible unless slow-cooked, however it makes a delicious Jailhouse Chili.

Often on offer at two bags for £8.

[Tickle]

Mobile Chicane said:

This is mostly shin and inedible unless slow-cooked, however it makes a delicious Jailhouse Chili.

Often on offer at two bags for £8.

My local butchers have been selling Thors hammers for £15, like the idea of a big jailhouse with a couple in.

News years eve dinner idea!

[soupdragon1]

21TonyK said:

RobbieTheTruth said:

21TonyK said:

I fail to see the difference between this and pre-cooked lamb shanks which seem to be acceptable.

Each to their own.

I think the issue is it's £50, and people who don't know their cuts of meat might buy it as a special Christmas treat and I think it's a massive rip off.

It's beef shin. Lovely in stews. Would be pretty bad as a Christmas Day meat IMO.

Not my choice but I would imagine the point of it is the novelty not so much the quality.

Supermarkets are very aware if they sell something people don't like or something that requires more than basic culinary skills they are onto a loser in terms of reputation and sales. Tescos know what they are doing and while you or I may not like the idea there are millions out there who would think it's great.

I am no longer surprised by the food standards many find not just acceptable but actually think are good and that's not just the public, that's chefs as well which is really disappointing.

Yes, novelty was the key word for me, hence the OP. I literally buy rib eye steaks or a rib roast for a special occasion and that's where my knowledge of cattle meat starts and finishes from a cooking perspective.

Clearly a lot of more educated people than me on the thread and it's been quite an interesting read actually.

But yeah, few drinks on Christmas eve and a big brute in the middle of the table is the key attraction, rather than culinary delight. I think it's clear that amateurs like me are absolutely the target market with products like this

[hidetheelephants]

We are just waiting for science to bring us the Amgelian Major Cow, which can sit in the middle of the table and talk diners through the tastier parts of its anatomy.

[fttm]

NWTony said:

Because people like you are ruining dogs! I grew up with dogs for most of my life and they got bones, chocolate, mince pies, whatever the family as eating and they loved it. For the miniscule risk of the bone splintering the poor dog is missing out on a delicious meaty treat

They also went for joyful walks in all weathers bounding thru snow and running around on hot days too. We threw sticks for them to fetch and they dutifully chased them down and sometimes brought them back.

Apologies for the derail but not tolerating your bks , FYI I live in an extreme climate , plus 40c/minus 40c our dogs sometimes get bones but always have numerous antlers on the go . I live on a ranch so please don’t lecture me on animal welfare!!